Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

MLM Bot Watch 52: The continuing saga

999 replies

Jasmin82 · 16/07/2019 22:21

Continuing on from previous threads.
BBC documentary:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

OP posts:
Thread gallery
13
Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/08/2019 21:01

Given the coverage of fears about how the roll out of 5G might expose us all to harmful levels of electromagnetic radiation, I'm surprised more MLMs haven't yet jumped on the bandwagon to claim that their particular gloop, pill, potion or whatever provides the equivalent protection of a tinfoil hat...

ReformedB0t · 01/08/2019 22:01

Did anyone screengrab Bruvs cheque picture? I can't see it anywhere!

Castle gave a brilliant story on stage at her very first (I imagine now defunct) Eagles Team Rally. The story was how her and her FL BFF met in the police. She said that her and BFF (not to be confused with Yawns BFF) were sent to attend the scene of a helicopter(or plane maybe) crash where the pilot was close to death and asked her to hide his phone so his wife didn't find out about his Mistress. She scoffed and said no and laughed about it on stage. She went on to explain how her and BFF were sat in the car and then they both reached for their diaries and it was like a 'wild west standoff to see who had the best diary. From that point they knew they were BFFs and this is how the Pro Planner came about, apparently.

I'm not sure why the half-dead-pilot-mistress story was something she deemed suitable to use in her marketing and I'm pretty sure that breaks some code of conduct somewhere if true, though I suspect it isn't from what I know of her now.

As a bot back then, Castle had celebrity status and so we all literally wanted to emulate her. At that point she was a massive influencer and I ordered the diary that day like many others. When it arrived, I took it to a team meeting and everyone cooed over it so we fed the hype.

The planners cost £20 IIRC and that was only for 4 months of that year that were left.

One memory of her first rally is how she played her celebrity status well, in the lunch break she stood on stage whilst the whole room queued and took turns to have their picture with her. She could obviously break during other people's presentations but she was compere so has a very busy day. I think this was a turning point where it all went to her head as from then on she never had as much time for people.

DoraExplorer99 · 01/08/2019 22:48

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Whiterangey · 01/08/2019 23:28

I remember reading that story and looking into it and concluding it couldn't possibly be true.

I imagine she is missing her celebrity status, I'm sure she's still worshipped by her ever dwindling downline, but they're just aren't the results there used to be. She never gets invited to talk anywhere either.

Whiterangey · 02/08/2019 01:06

This was posted on the planner facebook page on Tuesday.

" To celebrate that & to honour you & your friends - We are launching a new specialised planner in 2020 for all of our customers who specifically have network marketing business'"

I thought that was what they had done anyway. The 2019 planners have been reduced in price to £5 for the normal ones, and £1 for the kids ones. Obviously they are time sensitive, if they don't sell quickly before the new year and shortly afterwards, nobody will want one.

Given that the top bots think they are gods, they probably assume they will sell more than they do so have lots left over.

Whiterangey · 02/08/2019 01:15

A Lularoe consultant took her own life last night. No more details than that. I read it on the defectors detectives facebook group and they are not allowing speculation or any details about who she is. Which is the right thing to do.

So sad, she is likely a Mom and a wife.

The Samaritans telephone number is 116 123 www.samaritans.org/

Some more links on the NHS website: www.nhs.uk/conditions/suicide/

Alislia17 · 02/08/2019 03:24

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

gotmychocolateimgood · 02/08/2019 06:58

Here is Bruv's cheque post

MLM Bot Watch 52: The continuing saga
Whiterangey · 02/08/2019 09:04

Just for informations sake, the deleted post was apparently a porn related spam bot.

Mlmers are missing a trick with spambots.

ImpracticalCape · 02/08/2019 09:56

Nurse is making her personal page personal only and revamping her biznis page.

I'm guessing she's realised/her friends have told her, that endless posts about £20 drinking gel and dire business presentations to herself are losing her supporters.

Spongebobette · 02/08/2019 11:06

But how do you do attraction marketing if you can’t blend your personal life with your bizness?

gotmychocolateimgood · 02/08/2019 11:43

I don't think she's thought it through. Her page gets no traffic at all so nobody will see her posts.

CodenameVillanelle · 02/08/2019 11:50

Nurse is a total failure at attraction marketing and using social media to recruit so I expect she's been given strong orders to try some new strategy that she was taught at some bollocks training event. Of course none of it will work as she's hopeless (thankfully for her friends and family)

Spongebobette · 02/08/2019 12:05

she's going to be personally inviting people to join her VIP page. they can accept or decline.
She'd better brace herself for a lot of rejection.
She'll end up with a handful of fellow bots and a few family members. it'll be like shouting into the void.

Norma27 · 02/08/2019 12:58

Nurse is also going to allow others to advertise on her business page. I can see that going well!

shamrockandroll · 02/08/2019 13:01

Yawn has been promoted to Sapphire Manager? - Was she not a Sapphire Manager before? How did she achieve this if her business is not going as well as before? Surely she will be receiving a cheque now??
I don't know who in her team has made Manager - anyone have any clues?

gotmychocolateimgood · 02/08/2019 13:19

If she sends me an invite I may accept (we are fb friends) which I know is mean, but I need my snooping eyes!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 02/08/2019 13:33

@shamrockandroll - If you scroll back to Wednesday on this thread, there is a discussion of why Yawn's 'promotion' may not be all that.

SnoogyWoo · 02/08/2019 17:25

Yawns photo of her with GHDs the other day looks like it was taken at a salon or shop. No background in there at all. I don’t think she has bought them.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 02/08/2019 20:19

@DoraExplorer99*,*@ReformedB0t or other FLP survivors, correct me if I'm wrong.

'Manager' in FLP is where you are just about in with a chance of matching average wage, at best (my OH used to say £800-£2000 a month), the higher figure would just about match median income, but the usual reality is less than the bottom figure (she only achieved even this a couple of times), considerably less if you take the 'non-deductible' botting expenses into account.

So Yawn's elevation to Sapphire Manager (9 lifetime frontline managers) means that, in 10 years of being a 'top mentor', she has brought 9 people to a position in which they have half a chance (being generous here) of matching average wage.

Would the above be right?

gotmychocolateimgood · 02/08/2019 21:15

It doesn't sound great when you put it like that!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 02/08/2019 21:27

What do we know about LanzaBot?

I've only recently started paying attention to her fb page and I'm intrigued as to her story.

She seems to spend her time travelling from one exotic holiday to the next with her daughter (who is strangely either photographed without her face showing or pulls a silly face, and is, what, 14(??) going on 24 judging by her posing)

Lanza hasn't appeared in any big cheque presentations that I've seen. A quick Google shows a $508K cheque in 2016. Does her family have money? A rich boyfriend?

Where is she in the ranks these days and whose team is she in?

BSintolerant · 02/08/2019 21:31

When rigorous analysis collides with MLMs greatness is nowhere to be seen, apart from on vision boards and photoshopped images of fake cheques.

BSintolerant · 02/08/2019 21:38

Lanzabot owns properties and a cleaning business. Her training consists of “monkey see monkey do” bullshit and one of her FB posts blamed bots for failing because they gave up or didn’t do exactly what she told them to do: classic victim blaming. She used to swan around Lanza wearing clothes she’d customised with the Forever Living logo, which is enough to make most sane people cringe.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 02/08/2019 22:00

@OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny - Lanzabot is one of the few to still be collecting cheques (albeit much reduced).

Her most recent GR figues are 2017- $150K, 2018- $32K, 2029- $31K.

One of the reasons she might not be on our radar so much now is that she officially bots for FLP Spain (or whichever group of countries). She collected her last cheque waving both the Union and Spanish flags.

In terms of her lifestyle (and this has to be taken with a pinch of salt, as we are dealing with a bot), my feeling is that there is a combination of things at play: she had money to start with; in the FLP heyday she got a couple of large cheques, and had more sense than most others, investing it in a holiday let (with a captive uncritical clientele of brainwashed huns); she has a downline in a market that is not quite as f*cked as the UK...

Nonetheless, the chairman's bonus figures speak for themselves. If she's riding a gravy train, it's no longer FLP UK that's fuelling it.