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MLM Bot Watch 38 - Large cheques are not forever

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Whiterangey · 27/04/2018 21:00

I think the members of the Anti-MLM Coalition in the UK deserves to be recognised for the reduced cheques that have been received by the Forever Living bots in the UK.

They have worked tirelessly to spread the Anti-MLM message which seemed like a pointless battle when they started.

Yet here we are, the message is getting out there, and people are beginning to get the message.

People are listening. Ex-bots are telling their stories and encouraging others to leave or not to join MLM's.

You are all awesome and have worked so hard, you deserve so much respect for helping so many people.

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vipers · 05/05/2018 08:34

Hello Natasha, good to see you popping in! Think you've caught up with that fun summary. All same old same old isn't it.

ForTheTimeBeing · 05/05/2018 09:50

Hmm, no photos of the "suite in a gorgeous mansion"?
If I was a selfie-addicted bot advertising my glamorous lifestyle I'd be sure to post photos of my luxurious hotel room. I wouldn't want anyone suspecting that I was actually slumming it in a Travelodge ...

fitgirl26 · 05/05/2018 10:14

Hey @NatashaShingles - that's a pretty good summary! And there's a spanking new weight loss coffee in town - it's the BEST EVAH! Any word on why Sleaze has all but vanished from Facebook?

NatashaShingles · 05/05/2018 10:25

@fitgirl no idea, hopefully shes hiding under her rock for the foreseeable! I know she recently lost a court battle with an ex bot, can't remember all the details but good to hear someone got justice! Yes I have seen the new weight loss coffee coming and have also seen the generic sales message the leaders are sending out to their entire friends list. Here we go again!

YouOKHun · 05/05/2018 10:26

Sleaze has vanished because Privilege Car Club has gone tits up and taken everyone’s ‘ investment’ with them. I think he’s got people pursuing him and asking Wig if she can provide any answers in his absence.

NatashaShingles · 05/05/2018 10:26

@fitgirl sorry I ment wig not sleaze

vipers · 05/05/2018 11:53

@NatashaShingles were you expecting to see that huge drop in cheque amounts for FL this year?

ArbunneHun · 05/05/2018 12:27

It’s extraordinary how people whose feeds were covered in Privilege Car excitement a month ago are now utterly silent about it, and have been for about a fortnight. Everyone is back to Crypto scams or whatever, no sign of the car they were guaranteed to get and absolutely no explanation as to why the brilliant scheme that was going to revolutionise car-ownership has just... vanished.

And of course: no mention as to where all those ‘Membership Fees’ and monthly payments went.

It’s bloody disgusting and I hope people are prosecuted, both for running and promoting this blatant ponzi.

ArbunneHun · 05/05/2018 12:39

Meanwhile, over at Vida Divina... there’s a New Messiah and the #takeover (again? YAWN!) is underway. Momentum & growth are both incredible, despite the “smack talk and lies” being spread around. Presumably by Old Messiah.

NatashaShingles · 05/05/2018 12:49

@vipers yep! I know too many strong managers have left now and no new promotions coming through quick enough so it wasn't a shock they had dropped although I was surprised a few had dropped so much. The clever ones will be recruiting abroad and probably have been all year so I predict a better cheque next year.

Spongebobette · 05/05/2018 13:20

It must have been tempting to think the gravy train would never end
In 2015/16 I bet they all thought they were set for life

BSintolerant · 05/05/2018 13:36

Natasha! I'm glad you've reappeared. I was beginning to wonder if you'd been roughed-up and kidnapped by a scam of bots who were aloeboarding you in a garage full of gunk and despair.

BSintolerant · 05/05/2018 13:44

ForTheTimeBeing Maybe Yawn hasn't taken any selfies in her luxurious surroundings because there are too many mirrors and other menaces to vanity such as reflective surfaces and bright lights. Grin

NatashaShingles · 05/05/2018 14:31

@bs haha no not yet although I'm sure I'm on a wanted list somewhere!

NatashaShingles · 05/05/2018 14:36

I have to say theres been a huge shift in attitude from those still in MLM. Many are speaking out and although theres still lots of people still involved they are not afraid to stand up to bullying upline, they are less concentrating on big incomes now and lots are happily enjoying retailing products. The last year has definately stopped bullshit being acceptable. Dont get me wrong its still there but theres far more awareness of it now which can only be a good thing! A few well known mindset coaches are now being called out too which is warming my heart!!

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Dogjustguffed · 05/05/2018 15:49

I posted a few days back in how my FL bot friend is now showing as a friend of Wig’s. Terrifying. Does anyone have anything on Wig I might be able to show my bot friend to show her how shady Wig is? My bot is diversifying into crypto deals.

Meanwhile FL bot friend is selling her nest egg- a flat she lets- which I think shows how her FL dream is not serious any more and she’s broke. She still sells to a few people but from what I have seen it’s a tiny amount.

Her FL upline has gone VERY quiet, when last year her and the team were littering my bloody Facebook feed with Success Day bollocks. Interestingly they all seem to still tout themselves as business coaches, yet not one of them actually has a real, proper, profitable business. No-one seems to have taken them up as coaches!

It’s sad to see my bot friend thinking that Wig and crypto are the way forward. She was sold a get rich quick dream, and she still wants it.

Spongebobette · 05/05/2018 17:30

My goodness Yawn did about a 7 hour round trip plus a night in a hotel to go to a tiny business launch in Norfolk. Desperate much! Perhaps she’s hoping to start a huge new downline there. I wouldn’t hold your breath though!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/05/2018 17:37

Sponge- From what aI understand, she's doing a second 'launch' for the same bot today, so two nights in a hotel.

As someone said earlier, I was expecting a few more pictures of the suite in a gorgeous mansion... (unless she slept in the botmobile for the first night to save on expenses- I hear a TT isn't as comfortable to spend a night in as a Rangey).

whatshappening101 · 05/05/2018 17:42

Has anyone else noticed that yawn is now using falsies instead of v expensive extensions. Is this another sign that times are hard?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 05/05/2018 17:43

Disappointed by the lack of boast posts this lovely sunny day. Mind you working hundreds of miles from home is nothing to boast about.

She said on BFF's page that it took 4.5 hrs to get there! Any other job and you would be paid for your time and your mileage. What will she get? Diddly squat!

YouOKHun · 05/05/2018 17:56

I see Castle bot has been given a platform at a Welsh business expo alongside A Sugar (Tropic Skincare, and other business enterprises) and other movers and shakers in Welsh society. It pisses me right off that someone who has, in my opinion, lied and manipulated herself into the money at the expense of many poor bots should get any platform at all.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/05/2018 17:56

@Dogjustguffed - I'm afraid I don't have access to much more on Wig than the discussions on here and her own FB history for you to put to your friend.

If you are still able to get through to her (and it sounds like a big if), the Privilege Car Club fiasco is the most immediately available evidence I would point to.

It was all over Wig's FB as recently as a couple of weeks ago (still there if you go back to 18 April & earlier), with Wig describing herself as a 'founder' of a revolution that would have the whole country driving £50 a month luxury cars.

She is now behaving as though it never existed, but among the posts on Wednesday wishing her a happy birthday, there is at least one still there asking what has happened to the scheme.

I would suggest going over this gently with your friend (if you can), and asking her what she makes if it.

It sounds like she is quite far gone and this may not work, but it looks worryingly like she is about to be scammed out of her life savings.Sad

I'm not sure if anyone else has something more concrete?

Whiterangey · 05/05/2018 18:00

@Dogjustguffed Firstly you have the best username, secondly, the best place I can think of to warn about cryptoscams is BehindMLM

behindmlm.com/

Although it could backfire if whatever cryptoscam your friend is looking at hasn't had a write up. It would take a team of 100 working 24 hours a day to cover all the cryptoscams so they don't all get covered.

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ArbunneHun · 05/05/2018 18:13

Here’s a message Wig sent me offering to ‘invest’ money on my behalf in a succession of crypto ponzis, promising to turn $500 into $200k in 8 months.

As neither she nor Sleaze is regulated by or registered with either the FSA or FCA, that’s illegal. If anyone had been stupid enough to hand over money, at least 2 of those schemes have since collapsed & are being investigated. The only way for anyone to get their money back would be via the courts... which I believe has happened.

Ask your friend to ask her:

What happened to GCC?
Where is the 3D printer?
What happened to the money people invested in One Coin, S Coin, USI, Mass-Cryp, Cryptopians?
What’s happening with Organo?
When are they getting their PCC car?

MLM Bot Watch 38 - Large cheques are not forever