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Mother and relatives torture 7yo boy

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ElenorRigby · 20/06/2008 15:10

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1314511.ece
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/czechrepublic/2162250/'Cannibal-relatives-ate-boy-alive'.h tml

From the Daily Telegraph...

A seven-year-old boy was kept chained in a closet as relatives hacked off pieces of his flesh to eat, a court has heard.

In a case with echoes of the Fritzl family horror in Austria, Ondrej Mauerova was partially skinned in the closet in a cellar at his home in Kurim near Brno, in the Czech Republic, according to reports.

The abuse ? involving members of a religious cult ? was uncovered by chance last May when a neighbour's television baby monitor picked up graphic pictures of what was happening next door.

Ondrej and his nine-year-old brother Jakub were locked and chained in the cellar for months by their mother Klara, 31 ? a member of a group called the Grail Movement.

He was caged, beaten and gagged to stop him screaming, according to reports.

Mauerova had the monitor installed so that she could watch the abuse from her kitchen but the images were picked up by a neighbour who used an identical system to monitor a newborn baby, the regional court in Brno has heard.

Police were called and the two boys as well as what appeared to be a 13-year-old girl were freed.

But the girl later turned out to have been one of the alleged abusers, 34-year-old Barbora Skrlova.

She subsequently fled to Norway before being brought back to the Czech Republic earlier this year.

Mauerova has admitted abusing her children but she said she had been manipulated by Skrlova and her own sister Katerina.

The accused are Klara Mauerova, her sister Katerina, 34; Barbora Skrlova, 33; her brother Jan Skrla and a friend Jan Turek.

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findtheriver · 20/06/2008 22:43

I suppose you learn about the depths some people can sink to.

PeaGreene · 20/06/2008 22:45

But do we really not know the depths people can sink to? How many examples from history / current affairs do you need?

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:45

WTF are you doing posting an explicit thread title like this on Mumsnet. Some of us don't want to know, quite frankly

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:47

"honestly the topic is horrid but OP can post any details she likes...you do not have to read the thread. "

Missing the point here - can't avoid the bloody title in Active Conversations

PeaGreene · 20/06/2008 22:48

You can if you click on Hide.

I'm about to.

I just don't see the point of the thread. How can you cut and paste that detail???

findtheriver · 20/06/2008 22:49

It does seem rather strange to read and post on this thread if you feel that you 'don't want to know'.

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:50

Too late when you've read it

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:50

Too late when you've read it

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:51

God some people are thick! - the point is that I didn't want to know but couldn't avoid it. Keep up love

Jodee · 20/06/2008 22:52

exactly, hmc, can't hide until we've already seen it the dreadful title.

handlemecarefully · 20/06/2008 22:53

(that was too findtheriver for clarification)

...and now I've said my piece. Won't unintentionally bump this again!

findtheriver · 20/06/2008 22:57

handlemecarefully - bit thick to post on a thread you would prefer to ignore really. Bump!!

findtheriver · 20/06/2008 23:00

What a horrendous thing for those people to do. Can't begin to imagine how people like that get their kicks.

want2bayummymummy · 20/06/2008 23:15

bloody horrible, but it was written by the sun aarrrhhh hate that newspaper

findtheriver · 20/06/2008 23:18

reported in other papers too want2

myredcardigan · 20/06/2008 23:19

There was no need to be so graphic with the thread title. Not nice to see in active convos.
OP, you could have worded it something like, 'really horrific case of parental abuse' or something similar.

want2bayummymummy · 20/06/2008 23:24

oh leave it!!! she sharing something she dont need permission. if dont like thread dont go on it!!!.

findtheriver, i did not hear story only as not read paper today or watched news,but just hate the scummy sun. that paper banned from our house!!

Flashman · 20/06/2008 23:35

Those complaining about this - did you click the link and read the story or just the title of the thread?

mummymusings · 20/06/2008 23:37

i read the title of the thread and thought snugglymummy was up to mischief again! saw she wasnt, felt slightly and thought i didnt want to look as it would make me desperately

seeker · 20/06/2008 23:58

And your point in posting this was what, exactly?

VeniVidiVickiQV · 21/06/2008 00:03

Thread title too graphic. And a little salacious. I don't want to click on the link to see if it compares to the actual story.

deeeja · 21/06/2008 00:09

SICK

vixma · 21/06/2008 00:15

How upsetting, how people treat children. Dear me.

findtheriver · 21/06/2008 10:06

The thread title reflects the fact that the piece of news is horrific. I would have thought we can all see that.
Interesting how so many posters choose to focus on the wording of the title, rather than the fact that this is a horrific case of calculated, systematic abuse

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ElenorRigby · 21/06/2008 21:30

Exactly FindtheRiver! I am amazed that on this forum people get upset about being bothered by the facts and so try shooting the messenger! Worse still on another forum (not a mums forum) people saw it as a joke, because the mother looked like an igor figure.

Why did people react so!?
IMO that is the point. It's not really palatable news because a mother did it.

Josef Fritzl of course, will be remembered globally. This mother will hardly even be heard about,never mind remembered. Yet both put their children through imprisonment and unspeakable abuse.

IMO it is socially acceptable to demonise men. You can call men "bastards" or say "all men are potential rapists"
There will be few decenting voices...

Then try applying such abusive generalisations to other groups!
Call Women bitchs,the Irish thick or whatever nasty stereotype!
...and forsure the person using such an abusive generalistion would be quite rightly slapped down real quick.

However if women kill or harm they are portrayed as victims they must be mentally ill.

Silly me I thought feminism was about having an equitable and complementary role with men and taking responsibility for our lives.

Erin Pizzey founder of Womens Aid recently wrote this...
"Men can be accused of violence towards their partners and sexual abuse without evidence. Courts discriminate against fathers and refuse to allow them access to their children on the whims of vicious partners.

Of course, there are dangerous men who manipulate the court systems and social services to persecute their partners and children. But by blaming all men, we have diluted the focus on this minority of men and pushed aside the many men who would be willing to work with women towards solutions.

I believe that the feminist movement envisaged a new Utopia that depended upon destroying family life. In the new century, so their credo ran, the family unit will consist of only women and their children. Fathers are dispensable. And all that was yoked - unforgivably - to the debate about domestic violence.

To my mind, it has never been a gender issue"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-430702/How-feminists-tried-destroy-family.html Link

IMO thats well said Erin.
She has been trying to hold up a mirror to this hypocrisy and injustice for many years

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