Mother and relatives torture 7yo boy

[ElenorRigby]

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1314511.ece
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/czechrepublic/2162250/'Cannibal-relatives-ate-boy-alive'.h tml

From the Daily Telegraph...

A seven-year-old boy was kept chained in a closet as relatives hacked off pieces of his flesh to eat, a court has heard.

In a case with echoes of the Fritzl family horror in Austria, Ondrej Mauerova was partially skinned in the closet in a cellar at his home in Kurim near Brno, in the Czech Republic, according to reports.

The abuse ? involving members of a religious cult ? was uncovered by chance last May when a neighbour's television baby monitor picked up graphic pictures of what was happening next door.

Ondrej and his nine-year-old brother Jakub were locked and chained in the cellar for months by their mother Klara, 31 ? a member of a group called the Grail Movement.

He was caged, beaten and gagged to stop him screaming, according to reports.

Mauerova had the monitor installed so that she could watch the abuse from her kitchen but the images were picked up by a neighbour who used an identical system to monitor a newborn baby, the regional court in Brno has heard.

Police were called and the two boys as well as what appeared to be a 13-year-old girl were freed.

But the girl later turned out to have been one of the alleged abusers, 34-year-old Barbora Skrlova.

She subsequently fled to Norway before being brought back to the Czech Republic earlier this year.

Mauerova has admitted abusing her children but she said she had been manipulated by Skrlova and her own sister Katerina.

The accused are Klara Mauerova, her sister Katerina, 34; Barbora Skrlova, 33; her brother Jan Skrla and a friend Jan Turek.

If you wanted to start a discussion along those lines then there are other ways in which you could have done it.

Quite a few posters hide this board because it has been rather sensationalist (or still is should I say)

And yes I know I will be bumping the thread before anyone kindly points that out

'IMO it is socially acceptable to demonise men.' - I think there is some truth in what you say Elener.
Just a quick trawl through MN threads displays comments like 'My DH is being a twat', or 'Men can't possibly be expected to cope with doing the shopping', or 'I'm not sure my DH can cope with looking
after the baby for a morning - he doesnt do things the same way as i do'. If the same things were said about women, then as you rightly say, there would be uproar. And it's a vicious circle. Treat men with a lack of respect, and guess what, they are less likely to show respect. We know it's true with our children - they learn by the role models around them, so why is it socially acceptable to rubbish and belittle men as a gender?
I have no issue with condemning men who behave in a brutal way - but I condemn equally women who do so. And this story is certainly about extreme brutality.
Judging someone by their gender is as bad as judging them by the colour of their skin. Let's start treating people as people.

I am astonished I had expected to be abused and belittled becuase of my opinion and experience.

findtheriver you are so right about the vicious circle. People who have no self worth, cannot care for others let alone themselves. The more men are devalued the more they believe they are worthless abusive scum.
Do mothers really want their sons given such a legacy?

ER, I do not think you should have linked this horrific news story to this agenda you seem to be pushing.

i have not read this thread, but could I just strongly object to having the thread title shouting at me from the top of active convos. i'm aware of the story, but don't need constant in your face reminding of what is such an awful and horrific event whilst sitting on the sunday night mning. f&cking inconsiderate imo.

Horrific things happen. Is it better to pretend they don't?!

I'm wondering what title people would prefer on this thread? This title warns you that it's going to be really horrible - I wasn't going to look at it, but dh was looking over my shoulder and convinced me it was a joke and worth a look. I wouldn't dream of blaming the op for posting it though.

absolutely not, but we should all be given the choice as to when to engage with horror. the thread title does not give a choice to the reader as to whether to think about this subject matter at that point in time. as such it is violating and abusive.

has anyone seen the awful story in the news...

might be a more appropriate kind of thread title, allowing people to decide for themselves whether to click and engage with that kind of subject matter.

this is not about denying horror, it is about an intrusive thread title.

I just think it's a bit weird the way the thread title has become the main focus here! Not the horrific, systematic abuse meted out by the boy's mother.

findtheriver we've all read the news story. or at least those of us that read the news have. it's about whether or not I want that thrust in my face everytime i log on to active convos.

this argument ahs been had over and over again about just this topic: i think most people draw the conclusion that 'in the news' thread titles shouldn't include detail of the stories that they are talking about for just this reason.

Agree with Sophable.

It is completely unnecessary to be so graphic in the thread title.

Cannot hide until after have seen it.

Will read the news in a newspaper. In doing so, am actively looking for news. And will take the consequences if there is a headline that is upsetting.

The same cannot be said for the thread titles in active convos.

And I think that it is most unlikely that anyone, by not wanting graphic details, is in any way any less horrified by the depths of depravity.

Just that you don't necessarily need to know all nuances and details in order to be horrified.

the whole thing about the '13 year old' who presumably at first appeared to be another victim but turned out to be an abuser is very strange.
Clearly this was abuse of a very calculated nature, involving a wide range of family members.

OMG thats evil

This is such a sad story those poor children, it amazes me that that child lived!
What a horrible case! Am going to be shot here but not quite comparative to the Fritzel case I must say I think this one is worse. Although I think the other was horrific too.

As for all the crap about the title yes it is a bit harsh but like it or not am sure the abuse suffered by those innocent children was a a bit harsh for them too!!!

What kind of world are w living n today there are soo many stories of this natur now adays