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Shannon Matthews Mother arrested !!!!!

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kay1981 · 07/04/2008 09:22

They have arrested her on perverting the course of justice - which i think means lying to the police under oath doesnt it?

Is it at all possible that they knew where she was all the time?

Perhaps cahnnel 4 should now re-show the documentary on shannons family and see how it is received knowing what we know.

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sarah293 · 08/04/2008 12:33

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wannaBe · 08/04/2008 12:46

Yes people make bad choices. But there comes a point when people have to take responsibility for their own actions. I don?t think the circumstances of Karen Matthews? childhood/upbringing have been made clear, but even if she did come from a dysfunctional family, she is now an adult, presumably with the capacity to make her own life decisions/choices, so if those choices are the wrong ones then the only person responsible for that is her.

I don?t think it matters whether benefits are spent on beer/television/broadband, but I do think it makes a difference when people claim to be living in poverty. If you can afford television/computers/mobile phones you are not living in poverty. Therefore poverty cannot be used as a reason why families like Karen Matthews? end up in the positions they are in.

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 08/04/2008 12:46

At the end of the day, all that matters is that there is a little girl out there who would rather be in care than at home with her mother.
All I care about is that she goes to a loving, stable home, be it with her biological father or with a permament foster family.
Thats the only thing we should care about.
It does not matter whether this family was on benefits, whether it was all a ploy for money, whether this mother has children by several fathers.

Divastrop · 08/04/2008 12:49

so what we can learn from this thread that any child who is not being brought up by nice middle-class christian parents who feed them organic food and dress them in boden are is actually being neglected and should be taken away by ss?

bollocks.the only difference between these sort of people and the middle class snobs in this country is that the former arent conducting their questionable lives in secret.

Trolleydolly71 · 08/04/2008 12:51

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VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 12:53

Because they don't read they are unfit parents?

I agree they may not be the best role models but we don;t know how they treated the children, which IMO is how you determine a good/bad parent.

VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 12:53

Oh and we had books in my house, tons of them, whilst I was locked in my room 12 hours a day and having to piss in the corner of my room like a dog I was given plenty of fucking books.

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flight · 08/04/2008 12:56

Trolleydolly I am sorry to say this but you are talking utter shit. Stereotypes are not to be reiled on. Judging people in this manner is just ridiculous. How the fuck would you know if they went to the library or not, and why is it any of your business?
Comments like that are stupid and ignorant.

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ElfOnTheTopShelf · 08/04/2008 12:59

I think you are only safe as a mother if you are:
married (God forbid that you could be a better parent singally than in an unhappy marriage)

sahm (because, of course, women should only have the job of wife and mother)

educated (because obviously you are then passing on that wealth of knowledge to your child who can become a brilliant human being)

loving (because obviously only sahm married women can be loving)

correct weight (because being over weight is not condusive to having a happy child)

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ElfOnTheTopShelf · 08/04/2008 13:01

oh yes.

Married to a rich man...

BetteNoir · 08/04/2008 13:09

What a shame.

This thread has turned out to be the sounding board for all those people who spouted shit about the MM case, and surmised that the mother was to blame.

Sadly for them, this was not the case, so their mindless blitherings ran aground somewhat.

But hey, now they've got Shannon's mother to fling their unfounded allegations at.

It's unfortunate that they can't see that being smug and self-righteous is much more deeply unpleasant and offensive than being a bit scruffy.

Greyriverside · 08/04/2008 13:22

Krang when you said

Are you:

a. Wannabe
b. Someone else>>

Was that to me? if so I am definitely me and have never namechanged nor plan to.

In case of misunderstanding the first part of my post was to you and wasn't sarky. I really did like the questionaire. The other parts were aimed more generally

No1ErmaBombeckfan · 08/04/2008 13:22

There is evience suggesting that KM knew where Sharon was and wasn't a missing child as reported...

If this is true, it will impact on future child abductions...

KM has to live with herself and the consequences of her actions

What and how she lives, dresses, chooses to live with, spends her benefits or reads is of no consequence...

I do hope that Shannon comes out of this all relatively unscathed and can achieve a bit more in her life than what her mum has done...

CoteDAzur · 08/04/2008 13:25

I would take "smug and righteous" over "made 7 kids by 5 men, then hooked up with 18 yr old boy into child porn, and complicit in own daughter's kidnap" any day.

Sorry if that offends anyone.

VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 13:26

TBF, I'd imagine all missing child enquiries immediately focus on the family so probably won't have that much of an impact.

CoteDAzur · 08/04/2008 13:26

VictorianSqualor

VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 13:27

CoteDazur, we don't know that she had any idea of Craig's porn collection.

VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 13:28

I know, it's horrid, but from what I can gather most children hurt or abused are by someone they know so would be the most reasonable place for the police to look.

BetteNoir · 08/04/2008 13:28

But hey, don't let a little thing like evidence stand in your way.

Greyriverside · 08/04/2008 13:28

Just a thought on kids 'being better off in care'. As a last resort that can sometimes be true. However I've been there and can say that it's not all pink and fluffy.

Also there were those kids sent to the Isle Of Wight home for their own good...

VictorianSqualor · 08/04/2008 13:29

True GRS, My foster mother was more barmy than my own.

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