Shannon Matthews Mother arrested !!!!!

[kay1981]

They have arrested her on perverting the course of justice - which i think means lying to the police under oath doesnt it?

Is it at all possible that they knew where she was all the time?

Perhaps cahnnel 4 should now re-show the documentary on shannons family and see how it is received knowing what we know.

Maybe she knew about his pedophilia, maybe she didn't. Maybe she suspected.

for your earlier post, by the way, not the latest one.

Bette Noir - Is your understanding that Shannon's mother has just been unlucky in life?

The thing about the child porn though is so terrible I'd prefer to give anyone whose partner was discovered to have it the benefit of the doubt wrt knowing because unfortunately every one of us on here could one day discover that our loved ones had such a collection.

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Do you mena Jersey?

By wannaBe on Tue 08-Apr-08 12:46:01
"Yes people make bad choices. But there comes a point when people have to take responsibility for their own actions. I don?t think the circumstances of Karen Matthews? childhood/upbringing have been made clear, but even if she did come from a dysfunctional family, she is now an adult, presumably with the capacity to make her own life decisions/choices, so if those choices are the wrong ones then the only person responsible for that is her."

In what way is she not taking responsibility? The care of her children seems to be split between her and the fathers and her partner works.

"I don?t think it matters whether benefits are spent on beer/television/broadband, but I do think it makes a difference when people claim to be living in poverty. If you can afford television/computers/mobile phones you are not living in poverty. Therefore poverty cannot be used as a reason why families like Karen Matthews? end up in the positions they are in.

When did she claim to be living in poverty? Or that her daughters disappearance (whatever the circumstances) was due to poverty?

So WHAT is your point? You seem to shift the focus of your actual gripe constantly. If you simply find the thought that she was complicit in Shannons 'abduction' abhorrent then I dont think you'll find anyone disagreeing. But that has NOTHING to do with any of the above. Yet that's what you're still bangning on about.

"Bette Noir - Is your understanding that Shannon's mother has just been unlucky in life?"

No, my understanding is that some people have nothing better to do than make up spurious claims about people they don't know, without stopping to bother about facts and evidence.

Sky News appears to be the viewed as the font of all knowledge on these types of thread.

Every rumour, every interview with the three cousin twice removed, is reported as fact.

It is highly unlikely that everything will be true.

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Bette Noir - Maybe you would like to start a new thread on your grievances re people who talk about other people. This thread appears to be on Sharon Matthews & family.

I'm back from a lovely walk with my triplets aged 13, 11 and 7 and have read over todays posts.

If we go back to the beginning of all this Shannon missing saga, how will those who feel that Karen Matthew's has done nothing wrong explain the following.

9 year old daughter goes missing at 3.30 ish.

7pm her mother telephones police...

The child is just 9, it has been dark for hours, its winter, and her mother knows nothing of her whereabouts for at least 3 and half hours?

To me that says alot.

My eldest gets off the school but at approx 4pm, (3 minute walk) if she is not in the house by quarter past, I am wandering down the road to see where she is.

The first hours of a child going missing are vital to the investigation.

To be fair, chocfest, KM did say that she phoned around all the possible places for Shannon to be. If they had lots of friends and family within walking distance, it could have taken her, oh 45minutes to sort out?

My quins and I have had a lovely time sorting out the garden for spring

Soooooooooo, that brings us to 4.15ish....

Quins! How lovely, did you breastfeed them?! And what ages are they now?

Yes - including tandem nursing. I must have breastfed for 14 years without a break. They range from 16 to 6 (yesterday).

(grin)

thats hilarious, i cant even put one of those grin thingys on!! Is it the wrong brackets i am using?!!

Grey I think Krang was adding a 'question 8' to her earlier masterpiece, I hesitated at the time but don't now think she was addressing you personally

"Bette Noir - Maybe you would like to start a new thread on your grievances re people who talk about other people. This thread appears to be on Sharon Matthews & family."

CoteDAzur, I don't have any particular "grievances" actually. I was merely expressing my opinion.

I also don't see the need to start another thread, as my comments were perfectly relevant to this one, but thank you for your helpful suggestion.

But hey, you go right ahead with your assumptions and judging, and I'll hide the thread.

Job done.

right, here goes again

thanks in advance if it works mouse

Maybe we should switch to discussing Bianca Jackson, then it would all be hypothetical.

chocfest - I don't think anybody has said that Karen Matthews has done nothing wrong if the allegations/speculation is are true.

I think the point being made, certainly by me, is that being on benefits (which she may or may not be), or having 7 children by 5 fathers has nothing to do with it.

Flight, Ah I see it now - thanks. I got the wrong end of the stick didn't I

Shrinkingsagpuss, ty, yeah I meant to say "those kids sent to the Jersey childrens home for their own good"

I dont think people were saying there was anything wrong with being on benefits itself?

It was more of the way she appears to lead her life, lots of kids, lots of different fathers (anyone can make mistakes) but 5 times over?

Then it is looking like she had had enough of this one and at some stage had planned to leave craig for the next.

She takes hours to call the police when one of her children are missing..

Doesn't seem to me that she has ever considered the impact any of this will have on her children, and therefore, based on the facts we do know about her, she does not seem a dreadfully responsible mother IMO.

The benefits bit was more of an anger of people who do work and pay taxes, dont like to see it being spent on luxuries the workers cannot afford themselves, in otherwords, working very hard, to enrich someone elses life which we may like to enhjoy ourselves from time to time. Def not a thread about all benefit claimees.

JulesJules - blimey I was 'perspicacious' in my Shameless comment last night but now very worried I could work for the Daily Mail !

Actually I've never seen the Shameless episode referred to, but ppl last night and today were veering between lofty judge and ye shall be judged versus the inner snob.

Which probably makes me a lofty snodge...but the fence sitting strain on the cheeks is started to hurt, I'm going to have to get off.

(in answer to chocfest) yes, but the point is the benefits, the children by various fathers, the fact that she is 'thick', the fact that she is 'dirty' were all used as reasons for the Shannon abduction/scam.

This is a very rare type of case (thankfully). It resulted because of serious dysfunction in that family, but other terrible things happen in other families that have different problems.

Shannons abduction happened because of the awful actions of the individuals involved, including probably Karen. Those individuals happen to be of low education, from a broken family and of low economic status.

To suggest that this happened to Shannon because of the family status is insulting to anyone who comes from a similar background.

God, she has now admitted she did it and knew where Shannon was all the time