Shannon Matthews Mother arrested !!!!!

[kay1981]

They have arrested her on perverting the course of justice - which i think means lying to the police under oath doesnt it?

Is it at all possible that they knew where she was all the time?

Perhaps cahnnel 4 should now re-show the documentary on shannons family and see how it is received knowing what we know.

1. Are you:

a. Middle Class, Rich and Smug
b. Working Class, Poor and Dirty
c. Middle Class, But a Bit Hippie Looking with Socialist Leanings. Also Poor.
c. None of the above. My superb parenting skills breach any class divide!

Do you not all have ironing that you could be getting on with or something?

tjg what on earth are you on about? Do you actually know something or are you as ignorant of the facts as the rest of us?

Surely the point is that it doesn't matter whether they are on benefits or not. Legitimately or not.

What has any of that got to do with what happened to Shannon?

Someone pleeeeeeeease explain, my head is hurting!

What is this 'ironing' of which you speak?

if the situation had been reversed and craig meehan had 7 children by 5 different women would people still be saying it doesn't matter? Because somehow I don't think so.

People judge because having that many children by so many different men is not the norm, and should never be considered to be the norm.

Whether this family are on benefits or not is neither here nor there, but it is a sad day when people see bringing children up in such an unstable environment as normal, or acceptable.

wannabe it could have been completely stable but for other factors...evidently it wasn''t in this case but why does the number of children/fathers make it that way...there may well be people with several children by different men, whose family lives are good and happy. I know of one personally and my children also have different fathers.
You might as well say it was a disaster because she has pierced ears or bad shoes.
Yes the situation is not good but that's not because of the fathers thing, is it? It's because things were fundamentally wrong in other ways.

just had to pop out to pass a few of the kids over to their dads, so I can have some more........

7 children by 5 people is outrageous however you look at it tbh

I'm so pleased all of you have never made a mistake and had a child by the wrong man.

I had two by an absolute cunt and am now having my third by my new partner.

I'd like to think this relationship will last as I'm very happy, and I also doubt I'll have anymore children but it's nice to know if it did all fall apart tomorrow and I had another child, with another man I'd be eligible for the worst mother of the year award.

So she didn't make the best choices in her relationships, let's hang her.

agree with flight. In the same way that being on benefits is irrelevent to the case, so is the number of children to different fathers.

A dysfunctional family with 2 children of the same father could still have produced this sad drama.

What about the man who killed his son in greece by throwing him from the balcony. They were married, both children were his.

because bringing that many men into children's lives certainly does not promote stability. let's look at it this way...

Karen Matthews has been with Craig Meehan for 5 years and they have one child together. Her eldest child is 12. so that means that she has had 6 children with 4 different men in the space of 7 years. Sorry but I would consider that out of the ordinary whoever it was. And I certainly don't think that having that many children by that many men should be promoted as ok.

especialy as she palmed them all off with the dads cos it got a bit crowded i supposed. Could have just got a new divan....

Palmed them off to the Dad because it got a bit crowded?
How do you know why they live with their Dads?
Why shouldn't some of them live with their fathers?
If this was a man whose children lived some with him and some with their mothers it wouldn't be an issue.

But Wannabe that's missing the point, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED!!!!!!

It is another thing about the family, that's all. It didn't predetermine the fact that things would fuck up.

I object to people loading factor after factor onto this in a blithwe fashion as though it all means that of course there would be trouble.

I reckon there were predisposing aspects of their lives that led to these events but also perhaps led to the number of partners, children etc and whether she drinks beer or not.

You are confusing cause and effect.

Why is it that the woman always gets the blame?

V mysogynist

It takes two to make a baby

Krang -
And - heated, how perspicacious of you, the news today is saying that KM did indeed get the idea from "Shameless".
Right, I'm off to do some of this "ironing" of which you speak...

Sorry but a women that palms her children of with there fathers & then goes on to have more children, says what kind of a women she really is.

Jollygardener i think your sick sense of humour is going a bit to far now !!

ok scooby - point taken, I too shall away to this 'ironing' they all speak of

Exactly flight.

What caused this woman to have low ambition for herself and her family?

What caused her to have 7 children with different men?

What caused her to possibly lie about an abduction it seems she may have known more about than she let on?

What caused her to get together with a teenage lad when she was already a mother of 6 and in her late twenties?

I bet if Shannon Matthews grows up just like her mum half of you would be spouting 'What do you expect look at the role model she grew up with'. Maybe we should rewind 20 years.

Krang, I like your questionnaire!

I see that now we have established that they are not on benefits we have also declared it irrelevant. But it was relevant when we thought they were

As for having children by different parents that is anti christian I agree and they should be stoned.
However while they are under UK law perhaps that should be applicable instead? Also are we saying that muslims with multiple partners or mormons are evil?

Like many of you I do suspect it's an indication of a certain lack of judgement, but it could easily be just the way life works out.

For that matter she could even turn it around and say that unlike some she wasn't prepared to put up with a bad relationship out of laziness.

Are you:

a. Wannabe
b. Someone else

Perhaps we should get some pitchforks, round them up and burn them all at the stake?

Opnion is one thing, but some fo you are judge and jury. We don't even KNOW whether they are charging her?

God forbid that the CPS should take a charge to trial, that a jury should find her innocent, and you lot then harp on about ohw nfair it is that people on these sink estates are tarred with being lawless benefits cheats.

It does look bad on the face of it, but we only know what the MEDIA are telling us, and we KNOW v little of her genuine history, or her emotions, or her realtionships.

Ok, people make bad choices. its sad.

Doesn't Ulrika Johnson have several children by different fathers? Shall we burn her at the stake too? Oh no, she has MONEY.

GRRRRRRRRRR

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