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Hilary Clinton

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SlowComfortableShrew · 12/09/2016 08:59

I'm terrified that her ill health will mean she loses the presidential race- she's been doing so well! God help us all if trump gets in.

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takesnoprisoners · 12/09/2016 19:12

If she tries to stay and fight, they will set Assange loose with his big reveal. The timing of that could be destructive.

ImperialBlether · 12/09/2016 19:17

I haven't really followed Hilary on TV, more in the newspapers. She seemed very odd on recent TV coverage - has she had a lot of surgery on her face? Her face seemed frozen.

And what are the health concerns? I know we're told she has pneumonia now, but there've been rumours for a while that she has problems.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 19:19

It's been frighteningly ruthless. Hillary to get rid of Bernie. Pneumonia to get rid of Hillary. And Biden to get rid of Trump. Followed by business as usual.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 19:20

btw claig do you believe 'pneumonia'?

LineyReborn · 12/09/2016 19:21

Then some people are saying that the Hillary who came out may have been a body double etc.

Then they're crackers.

claig · 12/09/2016 19:46

'btw claig do you believe 'pneumonia'?'

No, because she has been coughing for a long time.

Conspiracy theorists are saying Parkinsons or MS or brain tumour removed some years ago. She had a bad fall a few years back and the leaked emails discussed that and medicine for it etc. I don't know what it is but I doubt it is pneumonia. Conspiracy theorists are saying the dark blue glasses she wears are for seizures.

claig · 12/09/2016 19:51

we don't really know what is going on but it seems that there is a humungous battle going on in America for the soul of America and it will affect the entire world. It seems that a faction of patriots chose Trump to front an opposition against the globalists who control the politicians. Trump is an anti-politician, an outsider, unlike insider Clinton. Trump's faction intends to take America back and end the globalist TPP stuff and pointless midEast wars for pay for play backed by Saudi money and Qatari money etc which are destabilising the world.

I think Trump is going to beat the globalists and their controlled politicians because my guess is that Assange and others in Trump's faction probably have some cards up their sleeve. They have been saying that Hillary was ill for a long time (and they receive leaks from insiders) and the mainstream media faction said they were wrong.

claig · 12/09/2016 20:19

"Conspiracy theorists think Hillary Clinton has been replaced with a body double after her collapse"

metro.co.uk/2016/09/12/conspiracy-theorists-think-hillary-clinton-has-been-replaced-with-a-body-double-after-her-collapse-6122915/

Snopes has been on the case immediately to debunk it. Of course, a true conspiracy theorist would say that Snopes would do that, wouldn't they?

"Clinton Body Double Count

#HillarysBodyDouble took over Twitter with claims that lookalike Teresa Barnwell had appeared in New York to impersonate Hillary Clinton after the candidate left a 9/11 event following a medical incident."

www.snopes.com/hillary-barnwell-body-double/

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 20:42

Same re: pneumonia.

I don't share your thoughts on Trump will win. He won't. It is not to be tolerated. It will not be allowed.

(plus personally I think Biden would be better than either of them).

claig · 12/09/2016 20:52

'He won't. It is not to be tolerated. It will not be allowed. '

You are probably right. But I think we are witnessing a serious attempt by an outsider to defeat all of the insiders (including the Republican ones) because of the seriousness of the situation for America, with the huge debt and the ever increasing attempt by the globalists to diminish US power and sovereignty and increase world government power. Davos, The Economist, The Financial Times etc are all against Trump because they know that Trump is against the globalists.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 20:53

Soros is more powerful than all of them.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:06

He thinks he is. Some conspiracy theorists say he is stoking up the Black Lives Matter stuff. But Trump has powerful backers, insiders, leakers too. If Trump wins, a lot of people are going to have to answer a lot of questions about a lot of the things they have done.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 21:24

BLM, transgender, open borders: the destabilisation of the lives of the 'lower orders' - getting us to fight amongst ourselves. Soros money can be found there!

Interesting what you say about Trump and his backers.

I think some of his most powerful supporters are the hackers, 4chans, shy Trumpers in Silicon Valley etc etc. What do you think?

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 21:29

I liked BLM before. It wars a valuable movement. Now I just think of them as an SJW bandwagon.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:31

Yes, divide and rule is what they use to control the people and divert their attention from who really rules them.

Milo Yiannopoulos went to California and was stunned to find that most people he talked to were Trump backers.

Facebook, Google and Amazon don't seem to support Trump, they are mainly Democrat.

I think Trump probably has a faction among the military - Lt Col Michael Flynn etc, but a lot of the former top CIA and former top military are backing Hillary.

Trump is outnumbered in terms of powerful, influential supporters, but he may have enough clever ones to swing it and he is probably more popular among the voters in the key states he needs.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:34

'Now I just think of them as an SJW bandwagon.'

Yes, there is a brilliant black police chief called David Clarke who has no time for them and doesn't mince his words about their political objectives and who controls and funds them and why. The top controllers want everyone divided and fighting each other rather than being united against the crooks who are robbing all of the people.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 21:35

Trump will have a lot of military rank and file surely. Also he used Hillary's 'sleeping August ' to rack up support with outreach to minority communities as of course you will know.

But Claig I think you would lose all those back to Biden. I'm not sure it looks that great for your camp.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:36

If Trump wins, I think David Clarke will get a top job and then the people funding these movements will have to answer a lot of questions.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:43

'But Claig I think you would lose all those back to Biden'

I don't think so because Biden was privy to what has been going on in Syria, Libya, the globalist trade deals etc etc and the whole reason that Trump is running, I think, is because a powerful faction of some military and financial people want to end the crazy policies that cost America billions, weakened it, sent jobs and factories overseas, negotiated trade deals that reduced US sovereignty, allowed a $500 billion annual deficit in trade with China and increased US debt by more trillions. It is only a matter of time until it all pops and then there will be disaster for the American people if the dollar loses its reserve status, so someone tough has to sort this all out, someone has to defeat the globalists who deliberately allowed this to happen, someone has to make America great again and that is Trump and the faction behind him. I don't think they will lose because there is too much at stake for America.

Biden has been part of the political class that presided over all this, just like Bush and all the rest of them. That is why outsider Trump has been called upon to sort the whole lot out.

emilywemily · 12/09/2016 21:47

Donald Trump says what he thinks. Hillary Clinton is a corrupt scheming liar who has a hidden agenda.

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 21:49

Do you think they are already preparing an anti-Biden campaign?

53rdAndBird · 12/09/2016 21:49

That is why outsider Trump has been called upon to sort the whole lot out.

...by Putin?

Putin does seem awfully fond of Trump, doesn't he?

WinchesterWoman · 12/09/2016 21:50

It was Clinton who handed over a large dollop of US uranium to the Russians. I think they like her just as much, if not more.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:50

Trump is overyturning US foreign policy entirely which is why all the old guard experts are against him and he has said he will be sacking a lot of the "so-called experts" who got America into all these wars which have drained it and which they haven't won. He calls them useless and says he doesn't trust their advice. He is being advised by another faction which thinks the former lot got it wrong. He will do a deal with Putin and end pointless wars and then he will rebuld America, slash the debt and get the economy booming again and put America first everytime, unlike the globalists.

claig · 12/09/2016 21:54

'I think they like her just as much, if not more.'

I don't think so. Apparently, Putin has implied to his top lot that if Hillary gets in, he thinks there will be war. He thinks the globalists who control her will start a war with Russia. He prefers Trump because Trump is not a warmonger and is prepared to make deals.