Investigate 9/11 part II (if we're not all 9/11'd out)

[JanH]

Original thread here

MB....I am sorry to make you repeat this...but I must have missed this and I have no idea where to start looking on the other thread...

What exactly do you mean by "they have set up the wrong organisation" ?

They showed OBL admitting this did they not?

Oh yes...I forgot to say...They found Saddam in a hole in the ground...with a basket over the top....
And they can't find OBL

Yes there have been reports but they didn't listen to JanH's Mr Rodriguez.

We've had our own reports here in Britain - re David Kelly and the rest - complete white washes I think we'd all agree.

And what about the actual rescuers.....they didn't even find any piece of furniture...desks..chairs..

What about the solid concrete stairs...
The Lift shafts....

You guys really don't believe the government was complicit do you? This sort of thing just gives people something to talk about between their Alien abductions.

OBL, absolutly loathed the whole regime of Iraq, as it was a secular state. One of the objections that was made (correctly IMHO) was that the 9/11 tragedy was used as an excuse for going into Iraq. Al Quiada had no real links to Iraq, but to Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia

So if Bush set this up as an excuse to go into iraq, he set up the wrong terrorists.

Thats what I mean JOOLs the reports only answer the questions from the view point of the Governments version....

I would love to see if someone could turn this whole thing around....
If they could edit footage to show the world "Look what your Government did"....as the planes crash and buildings tumble...
CNN...FOX....all with the headlines....

TV and Media is the single biggest influence to the way the masses respond to a situation.
It had to be real...we saw it...it had to be terrorists...the tv said so.
You watch how the media portray any kind of broadcast about the middle East...
The words "Terror" "Threat" all punched out at viewers.

ac fuel burns quichly, and in doing so, sets fire to other things that burn more slowly!

could the haet have bucked steel? For about the 5th or 6th time yes!
Av fuel burns at 2800 is degrees, by which time steel has lost 90% of its strenth!

So YES!

Now please do't make me type that snippit again, or I will give you all a deterntion

MB....I'm confused.....
Why did Bush send troops into Iraq then.....If they showed the world OBL did it.
If OBL has no connection with Iraq....why are troops there?

Because....well, tbh, you'd have to ask him!

We used WMD as the excuse!

But osama was the utter opposite of saddam, an ultra observant (in his own twisted way) of Islam. He feels that the observance in Saudi is too lax. saddam ran the most secular society in the region, just about.

I don't think the Government has ever tried to tie the two. They apparently had info(although I don't believe this) that they had WOMD.

I think the thing that gets me about the steel...
If you have seen the dimensions of the building...and the dimensions of the steel inner core....
47 massive inner support beams would have had to have all given away at the same time (otherwise the tower would have leaned and toppled and the beams twanged apart as they bent)
One tower was hit pretty much full on...plane severs right across the building.
distribution of aviation fuel could have been even enough to cover the entire floor..let alone the inner core...47 central beams all melted at the same time...hmm possibly....
The other tower was hit mostly at one side..across the edge of the building...
Most aviation fuel ejected out of the side of the building. Burned for 47 minutes before collapse..IN EXACTLY THE SAME MANNER AS FIRST BUILDING....
DODGY!!!!!!!

MB.. we sent troops in on the basis of one document which stated the presence of W of M D!
There are no W of M D are there!!!!!!!

These are poor countries...
Not America...not China not Russia...poor economies..

The world was led to believe The War in Iraq was a "WAR ON TERROR"

Wait let me get this straight.....

Terrorists strike the towers...
An immediate response by America is its OBL...
Its a war on terror....
So......Bush goes to war in Iraq....

Catching OBL is NOT the focus of their attentions !!! OMG!

I know there are no WMD there.

My point is this, the claim has been made by some conspiracy theorists that Bush set up the grand conspiracy to give him a reason to go into Iraq. OBL had no links to Iraq.

So why the set up? why not set up links directly to Iraq?

We'll invade Iraq shall we!!!

OBL must have been a very happy man!
I can imagine him in his cave with a large G & T and a huge grin on his face there!

Oh...I've sent a tape revealing my guilt...
But look the silly Prats are at war with Iraq!!!!!!!

I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well MB....its not the Conspiracy Theorists who have made the error there then is it!!!!!!!!!!!

Its America who led the world to believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack...it is the events of 9/11 that gave Bush free reign to invade Iraq...

Goodness......they talk about truths....the Media truth was.... 9/11 occured....Bush Invaded Iraq!!!!!!

Bit Backward isn't it!!!!!!!

THE WAR ON TERROR

This is the key is it not????????

They have made a war on terror...

9/11 could have been an excuse to invade iraq then obviously...because it has given Bush free reign ON TERROR

They went into Afghanistan first - Oct 01 - where OBL hides out (allegedly) (even though he has been openly treated in US hospitals abroad in the past.)

Iraq was Mar 03 .

So that sorts out that confusion.

mb, have you watched the Jeff King clip?

Thanks JanH......

9/11 is still a catalyst for Iraq though isn't it......

Jeff King

(They needed to get into Afghanistan ASAP to sort out a pipeline which had been blocked by the then government...oil again...)

God.....this whole thing gets worse...a huge can of wriggly worms!!!!!!!!

Ludaloo
"Its America who led the world to believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack"
Just so I understand you don't think it was a terroist attack?

Janh...you should join the Conspiracy 12...or whatever they are called.....
your good!!!!!

Um...Paula...Have you read any of my posts?????

I think there is a strong possibility that WTC 1 and 2 were terrorist attacks...the fall down of them is very very bizarre...
I am open minded on the towers 1 and 2

WTC 7....Highly suspicious....this is what makes me so sceptical...

Pentagon...also Highly suspicious.....