Oscar Pistorius Trial part 9

[JillJ72]

Starting a new thread as part 8 is nearly full, here - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2080468-Oscar-Pistorius-Trial-Part-8

Does anyone know if sentence will be passed today? Will he go straight to jail?

I concur with Looking's summing up having had time to think about proving OP's intent. I think she is shutting down grounds for appeal as much as possible i.e cautious but safe verdict.

Acquitted on the holding the ammunition. Remember, it is not the Black Talons that are under debate here - it was the 35m, rounds.

Mama - no, no sentence today.

I heard 3-4 weeks before any sentencing and that they can reapply for bail if necessary.

Mama - no sentencing today. Could be another month.
But if found guilty of CH he will have to reapply for bail. Journo on twitter suggested that off judge doesn't allow bail application today then he'll have to go to jail tonight.

Marking my place.

Thanks all

So OP is guilty, as it stands now, only of firing the gun in the restaurant? Murder charges, and other gun charges are acquittal?

(CH to come)

Does anyone know what sort of sentence the restaurant incident could carry?

Yep the gun in the restaurant is all he is guilty of so far, the ch charge is being discussed now.

Judge now saying he acted promptly trying to get medical help, cites the objective nature of the phone records in support of this.

Has the Judge actually said he is guilty of culpable homicide?

Verdict being read...

Guilty of CH

Guilty of culpable homicide - not surprising.

Guilty of culpable homicide!

Culpable homicide guilty
Fire arm in a car not guilty

Tasha - guilty of something
Ammunition storage not guilty

None of this shows the SA justice system in a good light at all.

Whether he intended to kill Reeva is sort of irrelevant here- obviously it is relevant in the scheme of the trial and the punishment which should be given, however anything less than culpable homicide with a jail term sets a huge precedent for blindly firing a gun at whatever you see fit and then claiming fear as the motive.

Op may not have intended to kill Reeva, but I don't believe for a second he didn't intend to kill whoever was on the other side of that door. Just because he may have thought it was an intruder rather than his gf doesn't make shooting someone through a closed door (where they were not in a position to either attack or defend themselves and thus the motive could not have been self defense) any more acceptable.

i thought sentencing was today

xposts.

I hope they throw away the key.

Seemingly sentancing could take months.

No sentencing could take another month.

Mr fresco could be charged - is that Tasha's ?

during which time he'll probably be doing press interviews and appearing on chat shows.