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UK Establishment Closes Ranks as Organised Child Sex Abuse Network Leads Back to No. 10

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ttosca · 04/07/2014 19:19

For decades, vulnerable children from care homes and other institutions were booked to order by rich and powerful men, for sex. This is the allegation put forward in ‘Nightmares at Elm Guest House’, in an interview with Chris Fay of the National Association for Young People in Care. As another significant member of the Conservative party is about to be outed this weekend, we take a closer look at these allegations and ask: how much longer can the UK establishment keep this story suppressed?

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/

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claig · 06/07/2014 18:14

'What absolutely bewilders me though is that more people seem to be talking about the "magaluf incident" then the fact there seems to be a conspiracy over paedophiles in government.'

I think it because the majority of people think
"What can you do?"

This is what they think the elite are like and they think that they escape justice everytime. It is a sort of hopelessness where people concentrate on the less important because they feel that nothing ever changes and there is nothing they can do.

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claig · 06/07/2014 18:29

'This is arguably the most damaging incident yet, given that the dossier is said to have named Jimmy Savile, Cyril Smith and Establishment paedophiles and wasn't acted on .'

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2681949/Call-public-inquiry-historic-child-abuse-Forget-expenses-scandal-If-MPs-harboured-paedophiles-damage-British-democracy-fatal-says-MP-SIMON-DANCZUK.html#ixzz36i6pxSwX

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Wannabestepfordwife · 06/07/2014 19:39

I take your point claig

I'm just remembering the furore over MPs expenses. Have we really become a society that values money over children and a society that holds celebrities to higher standards then MPs?

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LadyRainicorn · 06/07/2014 20:13

Yes to the valuing of money Sad

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sittingatmydeskagain · 06/07/2014 20:44

Some of the stuff out on there is simply mindblowing. If those who are mentioned are innocent, I am amazed that they are not bending over backwards to clear their names.

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AugustRose · 06/07/2014 21:09

The scale of this is simply staggering and it makes me incredibly sad to think of how many children have and are still suffering such abuse. The whole truth will never come out because they all have too much to lose and to be honest most of them don't care. Sadly yes, money does mean more than our children.

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CFSKate · 07/07/2014 07:27
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sittingatmydeskagain · 07/07/2014 08:25

I've been thinking about this during the night - why on earth are we not shouting about this across mumsnet? Why is it not dominating the boards?

The news stories this morning are full of the questions about the lost dossier of papers - why are they not calling for the police to investigate those names who are out there?

The whole thing stinks. The smokescreens put up, the concentration on tv and pop stars from the 70's and 80's, the bbc etc.

And, even now, people appear too scared to talk. God knows how high this thing actually goes.

I am actually losing faith in the whole system. I am not into conspiracy theories. I am a pretty straightforward person who is not really keen on gossip, but this whole thing frightens me.

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AuntieStella · 07/07/2014 08:30

Theresa May is making a statement today about the investigation (i hope including who, how, how long etc).

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Tanith · 07/07/2014 09:36

I think that the Newnight affair has got people scared to put a foot wrong.
I am actually frightened at the implications of all this. We currently have a variety of articles and reports ranging from the BBC's understandably cautious reporting right up to frankly terrifying blogs and internet posts where only Humphrey the Downing Street cat is free from complicity!

The frightening thing is that, where once I would have dismissed those reports as hysterical claptrap, I now wonder how much is true... and how much of all this will be suddenly retracted and their investigators humiliated.

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TucsonGirl · 07/07/2014 10:03

This will all be swept under the rug in a few weeks. Another celebrity or two will be outed and then the real powerful people, MPs, business leaders, royals and the like, will pay off whoever they need to pay off and get away scot-free.

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TucsonGirl · 07/07/2014 10:04

MPs that are being questioned do not have to answer the questions under oath, which makes the whole thing absolutely pointless.

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Wannabestepfordwife · 07/07/2014 10:50

Signed and shared cfskate

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Thumbwitch · 07/07/2014 10:57

Shocking stuff, but not remotely surprising that it was shoved under the carpet. :( Angry

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PrayersDoGetAnswered · 07/07/2014 11:12

I think people are still in shock over RH. This is far bigger than JS or RH imho.

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PrayersDoGetAnswered · 07/07/2014 11:49

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682964/Child-alleged-Westminster-paedophile-ring-traced-U-S-Man-40s-said-abuser-worked-big-house-rescued-30-years-ago.html

There is also the issue of the survirors of the abuse. It looks like this poor Man was failed as a child by the police, and now at a time that suits the police they want him to help them. He has obviously moved on with his life and maybe doesn't want to go back to that place by the sounds of it.

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funambulist · 07/07/2014 11:53

It is shocking that an 8 year old child made allegations of sex abuse 30 years ago against a politician and nothing has been done about it until now.

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staverton · 07/07/2014 13:09

Listen to world at one now

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SittingNextToSanta · 07/07/2014 16:03

T May has just spoken to the House, E cooper is responding with some questions.

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AuntieStella · 07/07/2014 18:15

BBC article on May's announcement of an enquiry to be led by the head of the NSPCC and asked to report in about 10 weeks.

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SittingNextToSanta · 07/07/2014 19:46
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Wannabestepfordwife · 07/07/2014 20:40

I know he talks some shite but this newsletter is certainly enlightening

www.davidicke.com/headlines/75544-paedophile-rings--and-10-downing-street/

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CFSKate · 07/07/2014 21:38

from exaro twitter "the story so far"

Wannabestepfordwife - it is very strange that Savile was such great mates with the powerful.

from twitter.com/ExaroNews
@MarkWatts_1 answers @bbcnews - 'there is political will to investigate this' but there are also people working hard to discredit it
.@MarkWatts_1 tells @bbcnews 'there are false stories being put out in order to muddy the waters and discredit genuine allegations'

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creekyknees · 07/07/2014 21:41

I think David Icke is turning into the only person who speaks the truth on certain issues Confused

It certainly seems to be a common theme for those in power to attack, discredit and destroy anyone who trys to out them including victims like Steven Messham.

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TucsonGirl · 07/07/2014 21:49

Any politician found to be guilty of child abuse or simply staying silent when knowing of child abuse by fellow politicians needs to face the harshest possible punishment. Not pitiful sentences like those meted out to Harris and Coulson. Judges are as implicated in this as politicians and journalists are. 30 years should be the bare minimum here, and life meaning life, MEANING LIFE needs to be handed out for the worst offenders.

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