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OMG I am shocked .Lostprophets

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threesocksfullofchocs · 19/12/2012 11:26

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Xenia · 20/12/2012 11:25

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wonderstuff · 20/12/2012 11:28

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FryOneFatChristmasTurkey · 20/12/2012 11:29

Xenia Quote from Guardian:

The 35-year-old has been charged with conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a female under 13 and possession/distribution of indecent images of children.

EldritchCleavage · 20/12/2012 11:30

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PandaWatch · 20/12/2012 11:35

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Izzyschangelingisarriving · 20/12/2012 11:40

panda it can take up to 10 weeks to get a magistrates court date - even for this sort of offence - maybe it shouldn't but in practice - it does.

EldritchCleavage · 20/12/2012 11:46

Not 10 weeks for the initial hearing, surely. People get arrested and brought before Magistrates for hearings very rapidly after arrest, even on Xmas Day, etc. How else could bail/remand be decided?

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus · 20/12/2012 11:47

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FanjoTimeMammariesAndWine · 20/12/2012 11:49

I would say trying to rape a 1 year old is "something real" Hmm

Izzyschangelingisarriving · 20/12/2012 11:51

Yes they can only find people guilty if they are guilty - but sexual offences are very hard to prove - especially in a one person's word against another scenario - find people not guilty when they are is far more likely under our adversarial system where a trial is simply a chess game between 2 barristers and it is no-ones job to find the truth in court.

Far too much is excluded - to protect through defendants rights - which makes for a fair trial for the accused but not for the victim.

Until I got dragged into this system - I had no idea how poor it is - I naively believed the truth would out - but I have discovered the truth has no place in a trial.

Izzyschangelingisarriving · 20/12/2012 11:52

Yes I cab assure you 10 weeks from charge to magistrates is a real lifer example

wewereherefirst · 20/12/2012 11:54

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 20/12/2012 11:58

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Glittertwins · 20/12/2012 12:00

When I first heard about this, it did cross my mind that it was a 12-13 yr old fan that looked and acted a lot older as this does happen. But the more I have now read makes me feel very squeamish and I really hope it is untrue for the children's sake.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 20/12/2012 12:00

Gah, meant to add, I am in now ay legally trained. This is just my understanding of the 'making indecent images' law. I believe it was brought in to prosecute paedophiles who were amassing images and sharing them. Am prepared to be corrected.

FryOneFatChristmasTurkey · 20/12/2012 12:03

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werewolvesdidit · 20/12/2012 12:06

poor little girl :(

ThePoppyAndTheIvy · 20/12/2012 12:11

Jesus Christ! I had never even heard of Ian Watkins before this (when I heard the news I thought they meant H from Steps - real name Ian Watkins Blush). I have a one year old daughter - I really do feel sick having read the details, I was also assuming the charges would relate to a 12/13 year old he had met who looked & acted much older (not that that would be OK of course).

Not much shocks me, but that ANYONE could plot to do that to a baby is one of the things that does Xmas Sad.

MyChemicalMummy · 20/12/2012 12:12

@Izzy

he wouldn't have know any court dates in Nov when the tour was canceled. he was only arrested on monday.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus · 20/12/2012 12:21

Chickens But would that not come under possession and distribution?

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 20/12/2012 12:26

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Izzyschangelingisarriving · 20/12/2012 12:27

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SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus · 20/12/2012 12:38

I'm totally prepared to be wrong, I just thought that file sharing would have been distribution.

AnyaKnowIt · 20/12/2012 12:39

news.sky.com/story/1027393/lostprophets-singer-held-on-child-sex-charges

The singer, from Pontypridd, is alleged to have conspired with a woman to rape the girl, Cardiff magistrates were told.

He is also accused of two incidents of conspiring to engage in sexual touching with two young children; possessing, making and distributing indecent images; and possessing "extreme" animal pornography.

The conspiracy charges related to a period between May 1 and Monday this week, while the indecent images related to a period between August 12 and Monday, the court heard.