Stephen Lawrence murder. Verdict: guilty

[HedleyLamarr]

From the BBC, Dobson and Norris both found guilty of murder.

No, the point is that, as they were both under 18 when they murdered him, they will be sentenced as juveniles. They will serve any sentence in an adult prison but the starting point is only 12 years rather than life, sadly.

Thanks limited - your summary makes it all sound a bit more convincing.

Didn't realise that trazzletoes. But if they were juveniles, they were juveniles and that's how it has to be.

Sounds as if not much as changed in the local area though. A radio reporter went into a local pub to get local people's views on the verdict and was told that it wouldn't be welcome in that pub.

Gosh. Too long in coming.

That is sad they can only get a maximum of 12 years, if what Trazzletoes says is true. Hopefully they will serve the whole 12 years given their complete refusal to accept they have done anything wrong rather than being freed after 6 years.

That's because of who the killers are MollieO rather than a reaction to the crime itself IYSWIM. The brothers who are still free are part of a crime dynasty and one of those convicted grew up behind mock tudor gates.

Still shows the attitude of people in the area though, doesn't it? Surely better to say nothing than to actively say the verdict is a disappointment?

MollieO It really just shows what nasty, violent people the others ara and that people are scared of repercussions TBH.

Justice for that poor boy and his proud family.

I hope those two fuckers now squeal on their equally guilty mates, like the cowardly scumbags they are.

I think they would be worried about the consequences of saying anything 'on the record'. Within two days of the crime the police had been given the names of theose involved from over 20 different sources. People did come forward, just anonymously. I'd imagine saying the wrong thing publically even bow could result in violence and harassment.

Given who the others are I very much doubt they will squeal.

I think franke is a bit like me - I'm sure they did it, and I'm so relieved that the family have finally got (some) closure, but equally if I had been on the jury, based on the evidence reported in the media (and I am fully aware that the media reports will not have covered anything) I don't know if I would be sure enough to convict someone.

I would imagine there were other bits of evidence that weren't reported that together were enough to eradicate doubt. I fully support the conviction though, and I am pleased this was the result.

Agree with your comment proud family Pinot. They have presented themselves from the beginning with such dignity it brings tears to your eyes

wow, I actually thought they would find them not guilty!

I have to say I was hoping' I think their would of been more riots if not

Well done jury and shame on the mum for lying about their whereabouts

This link says that Dobson was jailed for five years in 2010 for drug trafficking. Was he put on trial while he was in prison?

Thank goodness for that.

Thank God.

RIP Stephen.

mychild yes, that is what the Guardian said.

Did the reporter only go into one pub though? If so, this doesn't represent the views of all the local people. I went to school in Eltham, it is not a racist area and most people were horrified by the crime.

I'm glad they were found guilty. Dobson's mum should also be arrested for lying and saying he was in his bedroom all night - perjury?

It sounds like a frightened area. The people who named them at the time made anonymous calls and left notes in phone boxes.

As Dobson was found guilty, it's hard to see how is Mother didn't commit perjury.

Millonthefloss
Your post made me cry

Seeing how worried the CPS was about the contamination of evidence, it's no comfort to know they've closed the forensic science service and now it's all fragmented