Sense and Sensibility

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Not sure about this one. Ravishingly shot, but …

Elinor and Edward were true to the book, but Marianne appeared to have morphed into Cathy from Wuthering Heights, Sir John Middleton into Sir John Falstaff, Lady Middleton into Mary Bennett, and the Colonel into Professor Bhaer

The never brushed hair was very distracting

And stunning and brave, I assume 😅

The 2008 miniseries comes much closer to the ages, and I think nails Marianne particular. I know it's sacrilege in some circles not to have Kate Winslet as your fave, but 2008 Marianne feels like a teenager and is far closer to how I envisioned the character when I read the book. Dominic Cooper is a great Willoughby against her too. You can see the whole thing is a bit of a doomed teenage infatuation, but you understand why they both get swept up in it. The series does a good job of not mocking their feelings, but not making it seem like a great doomed love either.

1995 Willoughby is great too, but he's a bit too mature and dignified to be what I personally perceive Willoughby to have been: a stupid fuckboy knocked for six by falling in love, and ultimately not mature enough to handle it.

Plot change - that Edward was engaged to Lucy from being very young when she was going to become very rich but somehow she lost her money - brothers getting it or something, so she then wouldn't do for Mrs. Ferrars, but it made Edward not responsible for anything. He's in a mess when we first meet him in the book but it's through his own action of having become engaged to Lucy of his own volition. That's ONE plot change. Load of old rubbish.

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I mean film spoilers not book spoilers! Assume everyone has read the book and if you haven't well it serves you right

The plot changes were:

• completely rewriting the circumstances in which Edward and Lucy got engaged; in the film he says the marriage was arranged by their mothers when they were children and he wanted to honour the arrangement even after Lucy lost her fortune, and his mother didn't want him to marry her any more. Bizarre and unnecessary
• a scene in which Edward calls on Elinor and tells her the above story - effectively declaring his love for her while he explains that he is engaged to someone else. Ofc this does not exist in the book and completely changes everything about Elinor's emotional journey from that point, making what follows very anticlimactic
• Brandon is at the ball where Willoughby snubs Marianne (minor but pointless)
• When Marianne is ill, Willoughby turns up drunk wanting to find out that she's out of danger, then refuses to leave, wants to tell her he loves her (despite still being engaged to rich girl), and... wait for it... Brandon kicks him out, Willoughby challenges him to a duel and they actually go full pistols at dawn! It was so ridiculous we just had to laugh.
• After everyone finds out that Edward is engaged to Lucy and his mother disinherits him, there is a scene between Edward and Elinor in which he tells her he will break off the engagement with Lucy if she wants him to, but she tells him to honour it. This scene wasn't funny, it gave me the rage.

Didn’t dislike it overall but what on earth was the duel with pistols all about? And Mr Palmer was awful- Hugh Laurie left big shoes to fill with his droll delivery that managed to be on the ride side of affectionate to his wife (the brilliant Imelda Staunton in the 1995) this Mr P (gender aside) came across as abusive with that terribly delivered line about the newspaper. As well as Eliot Sumner, I looked up the actress playing Marianne- she is also a nepo baby, being the daughter of Samantha Morton and Charlie Creed-Miles. Her hair was awful. I agree about the ages from the 1995 version skewing what you expect for this one- the widowed Mrs Dashwood in this one looks the same age if not younger than Elinor in the 90s one (Emma T was 36, the Mrs D actress is 46). Fiona Shaw was good as Mrs Jennings, but it was a similar sort of performance to the previous. Fanny not as good as Harriet Walter’s portrayal. Disappointed we didn’t get the double wedding at the end! I haven’t seen the 2008 BBC mini series but see there’s some love for it here so might give it a try.