Sense and Sensibility

[damemaggiescurledupperlip]

Not sure about this one. Ravishingly shot, but …

Elinor and Edward were true to the book, but Marianne appeared to have morphed into Cathy from Wuthering Heights, Sir John Middleton into Sir John Falstaff, Lady Middleton into Mary Bennett, and the Colonel into Professor Bhaer

The never brushed hair was very distracting

Re: Eliot sumner...split Ripley, too

Spoilt not split

Marianne's badly done lip filler should have got it’s own credit, so jarring - would have loved to hear what Jane Austen would have said about that

Agree with every word.

I’ve just seen it and absolutely loved it 🥰 I understand some of the gripes but the basics were there and the story is so good.

I thought the horrible sister in law was perfect, just how I imagined her. Lucy Steele likewise played the part to perfection, more convincing than the 90s film imo.

I can forgive some messy hair and the weird casting of Mr Palmer.

@AnotherEmma
It's really made me cross I spent money to see it!
The only positives I could find were that fiona Shaw as Mrs Jennings was great and better reflected the size of the role in the book (the less said about Sir John the better!) and marianne had dark hair and eyes, as in the book
The dancing scene was just...mad!
The actor playing Willoughby was sleazy, not charming. The actor playing Edward was ok.
As for the duel!...I nearly walked out then 🙄

Totally agree

Eliot Sumner barely featured ... she only had a couple of lines. It's not like she had a pivotal role (as in Ripley).

I must have nodded off during all the gratuitous sex scenes.

And those few lines completely threw me out of the film as it was so incongruous that they be there. Awful casting.

The duel was the final straw wasn't it, I actually burst out laughing at that point!

Kate Winslet and Greg Wise were so incandescently beautiful that everyone rooted for them. Even after Willoughby was revealed as an out-and-out cad, you couldn't help but mourn for what their babies might have looked like.

The actors playing Marianne and Willoughby were not as physically alluring (Winslet and Wise are a hard act to follow!) and I just wanted to take a brush to that lassie's hair. It seemed so unlikely she'd be admitted to a London ball looking like she'd been dragged through a hedge backwards.

I couldn't for the life of me even see any point to the duel if they were just going to fire off to the side of each other.

Why?

I still haven’t seen it, so haven’t seen this scene, but having once copy-edited a book on the history of duelling, I believe it was common for the challenger to fire into the air/deliberately to one side of the man he’d challenged, so that ‘honour’ was satisfied, and he’d had the opportunity to avenge whatever insult he felt had been done to him without any bloodshed. I mean, duelling was illegal, so actually shooting someone still had huge potential repercussions!

This exactly how I understood it.

Yes, I understood the principle, just not the rationale for why firing off to the side of anyone would in any way discharge the debt of honour.

Weird. But then, men are weird.

🤣

I don’t disagree about men being weird!

But the rationale is that the guy who ‘insulted’ you (the reason you challenged him to a duel in the first place) has shown up and allowed you to take a potentially fatal shot at him. That’s your ‘satisfaction’, that he gave you the opportunity to kill him.

The etiquette, from what I remember, is that the challenger gets the choice of weapons (swords or pistols). And obviously some challengers shot to wound, not to kill. (Like when Rochester in Jane Eyre leaves a bullet in the arm of the vicomte who has insulted him by shagging ‘his’ courtesan.)

Yes! I almost left then.

Watched this tonight with DD and we certainly had some notes…

She liked the vibe but agreed it was not related to the book in many ways. Agree @damemaggiescurledupperlip with Marianne being Cathy and the unbrushed hair was maddening. Both E and M would have worn their hair up all the time but actually it barely ever was.

And with Janey’s amazing dialogue, yes you will need to omit some but why write whole scenes that don’t exist and shouldn’t (like where Edward tells Elinor he is engaged to Lucy, as if).

Overall I enjoyed it quite well and especially liked the casting of Daisy Edgar-Jones as Elinor. But there was much that could have been improved without losing the realism and wild moorish/country living vibe.

(I also laughed out loud at the duel scene btw. It gave very strong Matthew Baynton in Ghosts vibes :D)

Firing into the air was called ‘deloping’ if I recall my Georgette Heyer correctly

I so wish they'd allowed me to direct it with almost the same cast! There were good parts and bad parts. I think it could have been done better. I feel that the makers traded on Jane Austen's name and messed her Lucy/Edward/Elinor plot up.

Thank you for the information. In the book Col. Brandon did call Willoughby out but I can't remember if they used swords or pistols.