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Feminism: chat

Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian

818 replies

MissyB1 · 14/04/2021 16:26

Apparently he tweeted that she was having an affair (without any proof), and the way he put it was a spiteful little jibe about her being a “sanctity of marriage preaching woman” adding “it always comes back to bite them on the arse”
Now I understand he might have an issue with her as I think she was against same sex marriage. But this man always strikes me as an arrogant twat and a nasty piece of work.

I tried to post the link but I’m such a technophobe! it’s on BBC news website

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/05/2021 14:53

That's a rather glorious twitter thread he's started? He's having his arse handed to him on a gilded plate Grin

WinterTrees · 28/05/2021 14:59

It certainly isn't going the way he'd hoped on twitter, is it?

I scrolled through expecting to see 50% sympathy from his supporters and 50% ridicule from the rest of the sane world but I could only see one tentatively supportive tweet in a sea of laughing-face emojis and genuine outrage at his cheeky fuckery, staggering lack of self-awareness and entitlement.

justawoman · 28/05/2021 15:08

The ratio’s beautiful

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/05/2021 15:15

The total lack of self-awareness he's showing is really something. I wonder what the partner makes of this. They could lose their home over this, surely? If my husband messed up in the way that CJ has here, I'd be incandescent, unless I believed he actually was mentally ill - but in that case I'd have been taking steps a long time ago to prevent things getting to this point.

Dear oh dear oh dear. I can't see that Crowdfunder buying enough to pay for a quick call to his solicitor to ask about bankruptcy.

titchy · 28/05/2021 15:15

One of the donations from 5 days ago was from jessens partner. They knew which way the judgement was going to go.

And he only donated £100!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 15:16

Someone dug Dr Jessen's opinion on reproductive choice up. It seemed that he didn't think reasons for pregnancy terminations were as culturally relative as forced marriage of 12 year olds, and he was happy to judge the former.

www.channel4.com/news/josie-cunningham-abortion-twitter-abuse-threats

youvegottenminuteslynn · 28/05/2021 15:22

@titchy

One of the donations from 5 days ago was from jessens partner. They knew which way the judgement was going to go.

And he only donated £100!

That tickled me too.

Maybe even they are sick of his shit.

Or maybe they are equally arrogant as him and genuinely believe he has a fanbase that will fund his bullying of women and absence of accountability.

He really, really hates women and girls. The vitriol he holds towards us is astounding. 12 year olds married off aren't really victims of anything, because he says so. A woman choosing to terminate is a villain to be called vile, because he says so and doesn't like that particular woman. But says he's pro choice.

He'll be saying he's a feminist next...

SchadenfreudePersonified · 28/05/2021 15:40

And so it begins . . .

Please give generously. Massive ego to support.

twitter.com/TAFKAMacM/status/1398284146267590662

DeRigueurMortis · 28/05/2021 15:44

He's obviously not a believer in the concept of taking personal responsibility for his actions is he....

Frankly I find it bizarre that's he's managed (as I type) to find 22 mugs people to donate to his fund.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/05/2021 15:47

The vitriol he holds towards us is astounding. 12 year olds married off aren't really victims of anything, because he says so. A woman choosing to terminate is a villain to be called vile, because he says so and doesn't like that particular woman. But says he's pro choice.

And let's be honest, there is not choice for the 12 yo girl. None. But there is for the 22 yo. Only one of those is vile and it's not the abortion.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 15:48

Dr CJ on a woman choosing to exercise her bodily autonomy by terminating because she thinks pregnancy will interfere with her career plans:

Additionally, Dr Christian Jessen was one of those who tweeted on the subject – saying that it was a “new low, even for her” to his 300,000 fans. He also retweeted a comment that read: “She is a vile human being.”

Dr CJ on the topic of a man marrying and pushing his cock into a 12 year old girl, without regard for her bodily autonomy...

Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian
WinterTrees · 28/05/2021 15:57

No matter how many times I see that twitter exchange between Drs Harrop and Jessen, I never feel any less sickened by its breathtaking arrogance and misogyny.

It is the very definition of white male privilege, airily pontificating about 'geopolitical, sociological and philosophical questions' when talking about the forced marriage and rape of a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL. And congratulating each other on their great cultural sophistication and enlightened thinking.

These men are in a position of responsibility for the health and wellbeing of girls. Sickening and scary that they see them as less than human, and think that position is not only defensible but actually commendable.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 28/05/2021 16:08

@WinterTrees

No matter how many times I see that twitter exchange between Drs Harrop and Jessen, I never feel any less sickened by its breathtaking arrogance and misogyny.

It is the very definition of white male privilege, airily pontificating about 'geopolitical, sociological and philosophical questions' when talking about the forced marriage and rape of a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL. And congratulating each other on their great cultural sophistication and enlightened thinking.

These men are in a position of responsibility for the health and wellbeing of girls. Sickening and scary that they see them as less than human, and think that position is not only defensible but actually commendable.

Perfectly put. Sickening.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 16:09

If you notice, Dr CJ (who has apparently specialised in sexual health according to wikipedia?) helpfully specified Niger.

Let's talk about Niger, shall we? This is an article from 2014.

Tahoua (Niger) (AFP) - With the world's highest birth rate in a country where first-time mothers are often barely past puberty, having a baby in impoverished Niger can be tantamount to a death sentence.

The West African state and humanitarian groups have worked to slash both birth and maternal mortality rates, but despite strides results are not good enough, the UN warned this week.

"Every two hours, a Niger woman dies from complications linked to pregnancy or childbirth," deplored Monique Clesca, the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) representative in the country.

(Continues)

At this age, the body is still fragile and not ready for maternity," said Yahaya Mani, a doctor working in the Niger countryside.

Official records bear this out, according to the UN which said a third of maternal deaths are among girls 15 to 19.

Continues: news.yahoo.com/high-birth-niger-strives-lower-maternal-mortality-040525639.html

Fast-forward to now with Unicef

"Little progress has been made to reduce maternal mortality: every year, 1 in every 187 women die during pregnancy, childbirth or after delivery. Less than one fifth of basic emergency maternal and neonatal care needs are covered, denying countless women and babies life-saving services."

From here www.unicef.org/niger/child-and-maternal-health

I've also found a stat saying that a woman in Niger has a 1 in 7 chance of dying from childbirth or pregnancy complications. That statistic will be driven up by the nation's high rate of child marriage. So a teenage girl's individual risk will be higher than that.

So, let's recap. Having a termination for your career plans is vile, according to CJ. But judging a man for risking a teenage girl's life for his orgasm is... imposing Western moral standards?

Don't donate to Dr CJ's crowdfund. Donate to Unicef and the organisations trying to train doctors and midwives in Niger.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2021 16:21

Oh, happy day Flowers

AlfonsoTheMango · 28/05/2021 16:27

From his GFM: "I am, perhaps, better known for my television work offering medical help and guidance to your front rooms."

Jessen, this might be news to you but front rooms generally don't need medical help and guidance.

And the bit about "bringing positive change to...women's abortion rights" made me laugh.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 16:29

I've also found a stat saying that a woman in Niger has a 1 in 7 chance of dying from childbirth or pregnancy complications during her lifetime. Sorry, left that bit off before.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/05/2021 16:32

So, let's recap. Having a termination for your career plans is vile, according to CJ. But judging a man for risking a teenage girl's life for his orgasm is... imposing Western moral standards?

Pre-teen in many cases, including the 12 yo in the original tweet. Sad

And may I add to UNICEF, the wonderful Fistula Foundation. Very high charity ratings fistulafoundation.org/charity-ratings/ and helping many women to get help and doctors in majority world countries to get trained.

MaudTheInvincible · 28/05/2021 16:45

I give up Hmm there's a working link in the twitter thread Grin

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 16:56

I absolutely second, third and infinitieth Fistula Foundation!

The thought of what they could do with £150,000 for women and girls disabled by obstetric fistula is glorious. That's nearly a thousand procedures to give a woman her life back, which means that's a thousand families where children get their mother back.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/05/2021 16:57

Very telling that he asks “is the man a paedophile?” and not “is the girl being raped?”

youvegottenminuteslynn · 28/05/2021 17:01

@UhtredRagnarson

Very telling that he asks “is the man a paedophile?” and not “is the girl being raped?”
This, this, this.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/05/2021 17:03

@UhtredRagnarson

Very telling that he asks “is the man a paedophile?” and not “is the girl being raped?”
Yes!

I don't care about the man's precise motivations. I care what it does to her!