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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

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LonelyTiredandLow · 24/07/2019 19:16

What was it the EU called Raab in that docu? He kept going in all guns blazing and they had to keep calming him down and asking him to check with his superiors that what he was saying was "phrased correctly" Hmm

War with Iran it is then.

LouiseCollins28 · 24/07/2019 19:16

Xylophone Star Wars imperial march on sky news now Grin

HoneysuckIejasmine · 24/07/2019 19:20

This is all very depressing.

Whisky2014 · 24/07/2019 19:22

Who's gona be state sec?

NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 19:22

The Turnip, @LonelyTiredandLow. I had broccoli in my mind; I knew it was veg! 😂

Alsohuman · 24/07/2019 19:22

What position is state sec?

dreichhighlands · 24/07/2019 19:27

Sec of state for NI maybe?
It would be good to have someone, anyone who had a grasp of the basics there.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 19:28

Andrea loathsome has just gone in. Stand by.

Wouldn’t normally comment but she was wearing white jeans and t shirt and looked like she was on her way to Waitrose.

Sorority · 24/07/2019 19:31

Fairly diverse choice so far. What's not to like?

NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 19:31

I'd hope the Labour bods are having some sort of strategy meeting right now to work out how they're actually going to be an effective anti-Boris opposition.

Whisky2014 · 24/07/2019 19:32

Omg the xylophone on ch4 news is doing my head in. Why do they keep interviewing right beside it?!

dreichhighlands · 24/07/2019 19:32

noword all they need to do is ditch Corbyn.

NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 19:33

I'm aware of that, Dreich, but what are Labour doing about it?

dreichhighlands · 24/07/2019 19:35

Fuck all as far as I can see fluffy it drives me 🥜! They should be so far ahead in polls.

TemporaryPermanent · 24/07/2019 19:36

I remember how it felt when BJ was appointed Foreign Secretary. Like everything I'd been told about the world was basically wrong, that you could be a total shit and also incompetent and still rise to the top.

I'm looking at BJ's cabinet so far and just feeling so utterly furious. What a complete fuck-you to everyone other than the ERG. He's obviously decided that May's attempt to unite the Conservative party by including all wings was ineffective (fair point) so why not go full insanity. Is it actually true that Rees-Mogg is in the Government? The Government of the United Kingdom? Dominic Raab as Foreign Secretary - really? Really? Really?

bellinisurge · 24/07/2019 19:39

The good people at Hairy Baby have just emailed me to offer a new T-shirt 😂

Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson
mrslaughan · 24/07/2019 19:44

@Icantreachthepretzels

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Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 19:46

Not seen David Mellor recently. On Sky now.

TemporaryPermanent · 24/07/2019 19:50

Right so did I misunderstand? The Moggster not in the government? Or Leader of the Commons [trails off to stop hiding on this thread and read some other stuff]. Is the idea to hold Bercow down?

AutumnCrow · 24/07/2019 19:52

Crikey, David Mellor

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 19:52

Not heard anything about JRM.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 19:53

Looks like there is a protest/march going on.

mrslaughan · 24/07/2019 20:05

Btw @Icantreachthepretzels - sorry I inadvertently tagged you, too many ragey moments not making me think clearly

lljkk · 24/07/2019 20:28

Any pointers which political programme to watch or listen to, on podcast catchup over next few days? Think I might be spoilt for choice. Was there a Marr programme this evening, 7:30pm?

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 20:29

What is this Duchy of Lancaster gig that Gove has been given?

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