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Westminstenders: Distract and divert. Just close your eyes.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 11:16

This morning Jeremy Hunt declared that, 'With vision on both sides we can find a way through that has the support of Parliament and also works for the EU'

Of course this is 18th February 2019 and the UK has yet to demostrate they understand the problem, much less have the vision to solve it. And we leave the EU next month.

It needs to be stressed at this point: DON'T FORGET TO FOCUS ON WHAT REALLY MATTERS

Everything else is a tactic to make you close your eyes and miss what is really going on. Everything. Brexit looks increasingly like a hypnotist making their subject do ever increasing acts of ridiculousness on stage. Except I do not know if the public or the politicians are that poor sod. It is the magician who uses tricks of slight of hand to make you look the wrong way, whilst they makes all the big moves out of your vision.

There are so many stories that are coming out to try and make you miss what the government are failing to do. Stay focused. We can't ignore all these stories, but understand whether they are really important to the end game too.

A labour split, a march on the 23rd March, talk of a PV, the Brady amendment, the Malthouse Compromise, Cooper-Boles halting no deal?

No we need more than that.

The time for fantasies are gone. Its time to face reality and be pragmatic. The only thing that matters is the approaching cliff. Which we will go over not on the 29th March but in the next couple of weeks. We might not realise the ground disappearing beneath our feet at first. Our momentum as we go forward will carry for a short while before gravity kicks in.

But we can not defy the laws of physics and suddenly be able to fly because we develop magic superhuman powers of vision.

And no one will come to save us either.

Our national humilation will be total, if we don't acknowledge what is coming and stop.

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RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 20:22

Oh Jez refused to attend the PLP meeting tonight apparently

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PestyMachtubernahme · 18/02/2019 20:23

Juncker says delay possible, haven't heard that said for a while

Westminstenders: Distract and divert. Just close your eyes.
BiglyBadgers · 18/02/2019 20:23

There has been quite a lot of research on unconscious bias and recruitment and the processes that can be put in place to reduce the impact. It's really very fascinating from a behavioural sciences point of view as well.

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 20:27

Derek Hatton back Confused

Must admit I thought he was dead by now, hence a double surprise !

67chevvyimpala · 18/02/2019 20:28

Derek Hatton??

Oh ffs.

BiglyBadgers · 18/02/2019 20:29

I heard and interesting thing around labour anti-Semitism and the idea of it being an unconscious thing. That the dangerous thing about labour anti-Semitism is that a lot of them don't realise they are anti-Semitic. That there is a general idea that they are all lefty and woke and that therefore they simply can't possibly be racist or anti-Semitic.

I don't know how much truth is in that, but I do think that the point we fail to acknowledge our own part in a culture of racism and inequality is the point we allow ourselves to perpetuate that culture.

PestyMachtubernahme · 18/02/2019 20:35

Red that Sajid Javid stuff is very strange.

If they can't cope with no deal, they will have to avoid leaving without a deal or maybe just avoid leaving.

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 20:36

Pesty The EU have been open to a short extension ever since they realised No Deal is quite likely
They hope to either avoid this, or at least have more time to prep for it

However, any member can veto an extension, so anything beyond the EP elections would probably require a genuine justification - e.g. PV - as it would be very inconvenient for the EU.

Littlespaces · 18/02/2019 20:40

Click on the twitter analogies for some light relief!

PestyMachtubernahme · 18/02/2019 20:46

I know BCF but had not heard it mentioned for a good few weeks. Was wondering if they have finally had enough of us. You know, they do have other things to do.

Grinchly · 18/02/2019 20:48

What is this ' I am woke' thing, apart from being ugly and ungrammatical?
I assume from the context it means something like ' I am alive to this issue' ?
Am I right?

OlennasWimple · 18/02/2019 20:49

Bigly - that makes perfect sense to me. Same underlying issue as the beardy woke dude bros who would claim to be completely unmisogynistic but whilst they would chide friends for sending round photos of naked women they also expect their female party members to make the tea and coffee and think that equal pay legislation means that there's no reason why women are paid less for the same job anymore

OlennasWimple · 18/02/2019 20:50

Grinchly - yup

WorriedMutha · 18/02/2019 20:51

The Torygraph are reporting that four Tory MPs and a minister are set to follow the magnificent seven. If there is any truth in that, won't it cost May her majority? She is on a knife edge as it is and arguably has more at stake than Corbyn who can play games and name call in opposition. After all it's a Tory Brexit?
I am an avid follower of these threads but only have time for the occasional delurk as I work full time but I'm off the leash a bit this week (half term).

HazardGhost · 18/02/2019 20:51

grinchly mostly...but its more like I understand this one thing and I am THE WOKEST OF WOkE THAT EVER WOKE and if you disagree with you are WRONG

OlennasWimple · 18/02/2019 20:52

Tracey Ullman's "So Woke" sketch is genius

BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 20:53

Pesty Extension has been mentioned a lot here (Germany), Brussels, Ireland

It's just that British media not only continually invent stories about EU "concessions":
they also miss out important genuine stories that don't fit the media owner's viewpoint, or that are not exciting enough.

GD12 · 18/02/2019 20:54

@YanniKouts

#BREAKING -- @JunckerEU: If UK requested extension to #Brexit talks, nobody in Europe would oppose it; No time-frame in mind for length of Brexit extension. /via @Reuters

Loletta · 18/02/2019 20:54

Where did you see that @WorriedMutha?

BiglyBadgers · 18/02/2019 20:55

What is this ' I am woke' thing, apart from being ugly and ungrammatical?
I assume from the context it means something like ' I am alive to this issue' ?
Am I right?

I think it's mainly used these days as a way to describe other people usually derogatory as Olennas does in her post and as I meant. Generally, people who believe they are aware and understanding of complex issues around gender and racial equality but really have no idea what they are talking about. I don't think people actually describe themselves as "woke"

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2019 20:55

The Torygraph are reporting that four Tory MPs and a minister are set to follow the magnificent seven. If there is any truth in that, won't it cost May her majority?

Yep could be that Major moment.

In theory.

In practice there are the Labour Leavers and Jez himself who rather screw that one up...

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BigChocFrenzy · 18/02/2019 20:57

grinchley "woke" = being very pretentious about how much you (supposedly) care about social justice issues

BiglyBadgers · 18/02/2019 20:57

I also meant to add that that's a perfect example Olennis! :)