Anti-lockdowners pretending to care about kids again

[noblegiraffe]

So it's all over the news about how nearly 400,000 kids are having to isolate because of covid cases in schools. Complaints about how disruptive to education it is and to the mental health of the children involved. This disruptive isolation must end as soon as possible.

Contrast to last November when nearly a million kids were self-isolating in a week. Do you remember the headlines, discussions and outrage about that?

No, of course you don't. Because back then, the solution to so many kids isolating was to put more mitigation measures in schools and attempt to stop so many kids catching it.

Now they can argue that it doesn't matter if all kids catch it, they're all over the 'terrible' isolation figures which are less than half of those last year.

I'm SO done with people only caring about kids and education when they think that they can use them for their own benefit.

If these loud voices could be used to talk about things like the cuts to pupil premium, the pitiful covid catch-up funding, the critical shortage of teachers, the unsafe state of schools, the massive waiting lists for CAMHS and SEN services, then maybe I'd believe them when they claim to care about children.

I think its that old chestnut that if we're all fighting amongst ourselves no one's looking up and holding the government to account.
Really parents and teachers (and kids) have all been royally screwed over.
And they know we'll all just get on with it because we do actually give a shit, really.

Children in East Asia have been wearing masks at times for years. They have excellent academic records

No they didn’t. Only kids with active illness ever wore them, and that’s if they wanted to. Never healthy kids.

@noblegiraffe

Or you can buy air filtration machines, Nicky, like they've done in Germany and the US.

Whether or not they have filtration devices in German schools is quite irrelevant because as a matter of fact German children have missed months of school. My niece and nephew have alternated between homeschooling and being taught face to face for the majority of this academic year and they aren't the only ones.

www.rtl.de/cms/alle-kehren-in-den-schulalltag-zurueck-4777019.html
www.rtl.de/cms/alle-kehren-in-den-schulalltag-zurueck-4777019.html

Some German schools have been closed for up to 30 weeks since last March:
www.infomigrants.net/en/post/32384/germany-s-lengthy-pandemic-school-closures-hit-migrant-pupils-hardest

Whether or not they have filtration devices in German schools is quite irrelevant

Well no, because the claim was that solving the problem of ventilation in schools was simply impossible, so it was entirely relevant. The amount of time German kids have had off is irrelevant to that question.

@noblegiraffe Who said it was impossible?

You said, Nicky, and I quote It would take a miracle.

@noblegiraffe For someone that constantly complains about people twisting your words, you are a complete hypocrite.

I never said it was impossible to do, and as well you know. I said it would take a miracle to do it in the short term as you seem to be banging on about,

So when you said it would take a miracle you didn’t mean it was impossible.

Right, ok.

It may as well be impossible. The idea of spending millions on random ventilation machines is certainly not worth accusing people of being idiots and not caring about education imo.

Why do people who pretend I said stuff never provide quotes?

Just like you posted shit about things I didn’t say, you mean?

You mean when you objected to 'it would take a miracle' being interpreted as 'impossible'.

I'm sorry for not realising you put so much store in the possibility of divine intervention that you'd get huffy over that interpretation.

I will rewrite my post

"Well no, because the claim was that solving the problem of ventilation in schools would need an act of God, so it was entirely relevant. The amount of time German kids have had off is irrelevant to that question."

Happy now, Nicky?

God noble, take a break. This can't be doing you any good.

She just goes on and on. She picks one poster and she’s like a dog with a bone.

I agree, it’s very unhealthy.

@Bryonyshcmyony

God noble, take a break. This can't be doing you any good.

Hear hear

More gaslighting. Lovely.

May I ask someone why German children have been off school for 30 weeks if the air filtration installed works? Someone said it wasn't relevant that they had been off 30 weeks but if they are not in how do you know they work.

Separate point but wasn't most of our problem with community spread.

Someone else said we need mitigation like mask wearing., well our school wears them and still shut, so didn't help. Back again now and only a few weeks left. Despite increase in numbers of cases and huge amount of testing, hospital cases not rising and neither is the death rate

Oh no, they're ganging up 😭

What a horrible OP. Anti-lockdown people have been worried about children from the start. You are so wrong op.

Plus masks are really bad for children.
lockdownsceptics.org/2021/07/01/face-masks-cause-children-to-inhale-dangerous-levels-of-carbon-dioxide-at-six-times-the-safe-limit-study-finds/

Why are people thinking that mitigation measures are either 100% effective or totally useless?

[quote TulipsInAJug]What a horrible OP. Anti-lockdown people have been worried about children from the start. You are so wrong op.

Plus masks are really bad for children.
lockdownsceptics.org/2021/07/01/face-masks-cause-children-to-inhale-dangerous-levels-of-carbon-dioxide-at-six-times-the-safe-limit-study-finds/[/quote]
The problem is that if you don't agree with OP then you get accused of ganging up or gaslighting. Surely we are allowed different opinions, it is a free country still.

[quote ichundich]Some German schools have been closed for up to 30 weeks since last March:
www.infomigrants.net/en/post/32384/germany-s-lengthy-pandemic-school-closures-hit-migrant-pupils-hardest[/quote]
What's the current situation in Germany?

Rates rising/falling?

No, you get accused of ganging up when you act embarrassingly like a bunch of Y9s talking about someone knowing they can hear you. It's very Mean Girls.