Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

[Dugee]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

@MaxNormal

Between that and the mandatory vaccines for carers it's all going a bit North Korea. Still, as long as we're all safe.

I think you need to read some accounts from some people who have escaped from North Korea.

Pretty gross comment.

"It's not about the holidays. I really wish people would consider the long term implications of what's happening."
This.
We should be fighting to retain unalienable rights. They weren't ours to give away.

@MercyBooth I'll take a look tomorrow, thanks.

@oldegg123 you should probably read some history yourself tbf.

@MaxNormal

Good, holidays abroad aren't essential in any universe

It's not about the holidays. I really wish people would consider the long term implications of what's happening.

Totally. This reminds me of the post last week from someone who dared say they were worried a out the cruises only allowing people who'd been vaccinated on and where this was going to lead. Provoked cries of,I think it's a great idea/kids don't go on cruises anyway. Aka most people totally missed the point.

Or the numerous threads started in the last year about concerns for our human rights being eroded which were met with, We're in the middle of a pandemic,you're so selfish,oh COURSE we'll get out rights back....

And to the people saying this isn't North Korea. You're sure as shit right it ain't. Not yet anyway

They’ve not been since Xmas.
On the 8th of March you had to carry a paper of why you were leaving the country and the fine was £200. Now it’s higher.
Saying this I know someone that has gone back to their country and I suspect she’s lied about the reason

[quote MaxNormal]@MercyBooth I'll take a look tomorrow, thanks.

@oldegg123 you should probably read some history yourself tbf.[/quote]
I don't understand your post. What history should I read?

From '3 weeks to flatten the curve' to 'Illegal to leave the country without a valid excuse' a year later.

I bet Peter Hitchens is fuuuuuming after getting his jab to go abroad.

But it's replacing a rule that you couldn't leave your house without good reason?

Now you can leave your house without good reason, but not the country?

That sounds like progress to me

How were they not already illegal? Seems strange to make them illegal just when we seem to be getting through this. Why now rather than a year ago?! This Government make no sense.

This is what they have done in Australia for a year, it's what the advisers recommend, I'd rather this than a 3rd or 4th wave.

Maybe if that had been implemented a year ago 100000 less people would have died. This isn’t some conspiracy to take away your freedoms it’s a way to try and stop you DYING. Jesus. It’s like the right to bear arms crowd in America.
It’s not some slippery slope. I live in a country where the borders have been closed for a year and I am so utterly grateful for that. Terrified of what could happen if my family in the UK became unwell but entirely happy to give up overseas (and interstate) holidays temporarily so we don’t get sick and our healthcare system doesn’t fall apart

@Teentitansonloop

This is what they have done in Australia for a year, it's what the advisers recommend, I'd rather this than a 3rd or 4th wave.

That's what I thought. Contain us in this country, get the local economy up and running but don't let us go abroad and risk bringing anything back.

I've posted this before on many threads and seen lots of other people post similar and never get an actual reply.

What does the government have to gain by preventing people going on holidays abroad and keeping restrictions in place? The economy is tanked, encouraging people back to work, booking flights, out for lunches and drinks are what's needed to get things back on track. The government reluctance isn't some big conspiracy, it's because we're in the midst of pandemic which sadly won't adhere to human timescales no matter how fed up people are.

BJ has led to this shitshow with his constant overpromising and lack of leadership despite advice from experts.

That's what I thought. Contain us in this country, get the local economy up and running but don't let us go abroad and risk bringing anything back.

Yes - NZ & Australia did this approach from the start and it worked well. The problem is BJ was never able to lockdown hard enough to allow us to be in a similar situation (which tbf would have been several magnitudes harder in the UK).

I’m fine with it. Holidays in the U.K. are better for our economy.

well all too late but i cancelled dental surgery in turkey last year 3 times....its re booked for october now and i need to go....its not teeth whitening !!

We have had one of the strictest lockdowns in the UK

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ec-lockdowntracker-24-hsc-p5q3zzxht

They weren’t illegal before?! Shoulda had a holiday clearly 🙈

Yes - NZ & Australia did this approach from the start and it worked well

EXACTLY They did it from the start. They didnt put their population through a year of crap , lying , gaslighting, goalpost moving and psychological abuse first. People in the UK have reached the end of their tether.

Who the fuck is going abroad in holiday right now anyway?

Also I'm not clicking on a daily mail link.

We'll be able to holiday abroad soon enough.
Even if it wasn't illegal, most places wouldn't let us in anyway.
I'm far more worried about the police powers bill in regards to our basic rights then a temporary travel ban.

[quote MercyBooth]We have had one of the strictest lockdowns in the UK

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ec-lockdowntracker-24-hsc-p5q3zzxht[/quote]
As always, (and especially in the case of The Times), include the actual quote from the lead scientist rather than a clickbait headline

Thomas Hale, lead researcher on the Covid tracker project, said: “In recent months UK restrictions have been more stringent than most other countries, reflecting the heightened risk the country faced from the winter surge and the new variant. For example, the UK has kept all schools closed and prevented people from leaving their local areas, while many other European countries did not. At the same time, the UK has created new international travel restrictions, something many other countries did earlier.

To those who are OK with this- how long will you be OK with it for?

There will be variants springing up abroad for years to come, given the time it will take to vaccinate the world. That risk isn’t going away.

Are you ok with this law being in force for, say, 3 years?

Just trying to understand the limits of people’s compliance with this issue in particular.

Why would anyone book a foreign holiday? My family are mostly abroad too including my dad. But he just has to stay put, as do we.

We need to vaccinate the world. The WORLD. and we don't need foreign holidays til it's done.

@MaxNormal

Good, holidays abroad aren't essential in any universe

It's not about the holidays. I really wish people would consider the long term implications of what's happening.

I'm considering it and despairing but even if thousands of us look on in horror, what difference will it make? We are powerless.