Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

[Dugee]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

So that's no relatives meeting DS until he's over a year old. His great-grandmother probably never meeting him. She doesn't even have the eyesight to manage video calls.

For a lot of people, international travel is not just about a fortnight at the beach.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

I have been sceptical about the Government’s piecemeal, haphazard and contradictory approach to this whole thing from the get-go, but I have largely complied with it all, as it was the right thing to do. Now though, I am starting to get really very concerned at the rapid erosion of rights and freedoms, all under the questionable banner of ‘safety’. We have had a year of this now, but we are expected to swallow more. People are very quickly reaching saturation point, and I am not clear what the Government are going to do about large scale failures to comply.

Eh? Rapid erosion of rights? It’s a pandemic! It’s not just here either, it’s global! Most people I know are getting on with it and not whining on about swallowing more as if we’re stuck in some third world jail.

Some people are going to struggle next year and the year after aren’t they once the reality of top up vax and further waves in Europe starts to hit home.

I'm in Australia and we've had a year of this, it has been fine. Life is normal, no masks, and no Covid (I am in WA). Of course its unfortunate that we can't go abroad, we haven't seen our folks in the UK and Ireland in ages, and my mum is worried that we will never see each other again! But its a pandemic, sacrifices need to be made to stop the spread. Hopefully we will be able to travel again safely in 2022.

@Thewiseoneincognito I am quite aware it’s a pandemic thanks, and at this point, most people seem to be unhappy with some or all aspects of the management of this. The impact of Covid extends far beyond contracting the virus, and the collateral damage will be unimaginable if we continue like this.

I’m pissed off with the whole thing, like many people. My in laws live abroad as my husband isn’t from the UK. His mum is 84. We want to go and see them. We are drawing parallels with people in this country who can’t see their parents at the moment, it is so difficult. We just have to get on a plane for 9 hours to see our family. I remember my grandparents experience of WW2, and the hardships they endured and feel unreasonable for moaning. Then I remember that the idea of seeing my MIL is nicer than actually seeing her, as she is a miserable, judgemental control freak who wants to micromanage everything we do when we are there, so for now I’m glad of the excuse not to have to go.

@alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 thing is, in the UK we remain in one of the toughest lockdowns in the world, and life is far from normal. It is probably far easier for those in Australia to deal with this new development given the overall context.

And so they should be !

This is the only way third wave is going to stop it should of been from last year!

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Thewiseoneincognito I am quite aware it’s a pandemic thanks, and at this point, most people seem to be unhappy with some or all aspects of the management of this. The impact of Covid extends far beyond contracting the virus, and the collateral damage will be unimaginable if we continue like this.[/quote]
You’re right it will be unimaginable if we continue like this, that’s why we have to take these drastic measures to make sure it doesn’t reach the unimaginable point, did you see the cases are slowly starting to rise again?

Can you imagine the devastation if a strain that escapes the vaccines decides to rear its head. Horrendous. We have to be as strict as possible to make sure the coming months and years are as bump free as possible, if it means extreme measures then so be it. The alternative is far worse.

It would seem that many, many people disagree. A rise in cases is inevitable given the return of school children, we just have to hold firm. This is not going away and we need to learn to live with it.

Here in Australia, our international borders were closed right at the beginning. Our state borders have been opened and closed as necessary which has contained any small outbreaks.

We still observe social distancing and hand washing etc, but, our lives are going on as normal.

Our kids at at school, we go out to our place of work, we can travel between states if we wish (unless the virus escapes quarantine and causes further state closures). Our pubs and restaurant are open for business as are hairdressers, beauty parlours and cinemas. All shops are open.

Ok, we can’t travel abroad and won’t be able to for a while yet, but, this has allowed us freedom in our everyday lives so we barely know that there is even a pandemic happening.

This was swift firm action from the beginning, nothing to do with control or spite but a common sense approach to stopping the spread, and it worked.

We have resigned ourselves to another year of not being able to see my parents. It’s so hard and I know my mum is desperate to hug her grandkids. Hopefully, things will be better next year. This past year has been hard on so many people and so many businesses too.

@RoseRedRoseBlue Oh don't get me wrong, I appreciate that this probably feels like the last straw to you guys. And I am personally affected, I have a very close (and young) relative who was diagnosed with a seriously terminal disease just as Covid was breaking out. We are seriously concerned that he won't Live long enough to see him again as he is already quite ill. But I do strongly believe travel should have been curtailed earlier in the UK, as it would have stopped a lot of the spread, and a hell of a lot of deaths. No-one is saying its easy though.

@MaxNormal

Between that and the mandatory vaccines for carers it's all going a bit North Korea. Still, as long as we're all safe.

That's the most important thing. It won't be forever. A bit rough for those who have already booked to go abroad though I have to say I think they were daft to even think of it this year. Presumably they'll be refunded.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

It would seem that many, many people disagree. A rise in cases is inevitable given the return of school children, we just have to hold firm. This is not going away and we need to learn to live with it.

I like that- learn to live with it.

Live with it as long as you don’t have to give up your ‘rights’ right?

How on earth do you think that is possible? Do you even know what Covid is?

A pack of lemsip and an M&S hand gel isn’t going to let you live along side it for long.

@alwayscrashinginthesamecar1, you actually raise one of my main grievances with this, which is the indefensible messing about that the Government indulged in from Day 1. You are completely right, this should have happened months ago, but Boris and co would just not have it. It has caused tremendous bad feeling and a culture of people turning on each other, which is frequently played out on this forum. All the best to your relative 🌷

@Thewiseoneincognito, given that I have had Covid, abided by the rules and continue to do so, I will put your patronising post down to your rudeness and lack of understanding for any point other than your own.

[quote alwayscrashinginthesamecar1]@RoseRedRoseBlue Oh don't get me wrong, I appreciate that this probably feels like the last straw to you guys. And I am personally affected, I have a very close (and young) relative who was diagnosed with a seriously terminal disease just as Covid was breaking out. We are seriously concerned that he won't Live long enough to see him again as he is already quite ill. But I do strongly believe travel should have been curtailed earlier in the UK, as it would have stopped a lot of the spread, and a hell of a lot of deaths. No-one is saying its easy though.[/quote]
I am sorry about your relative, RoseRed. That must be tough.

My son is engaged to an American girl who was going to move here last year to be with him but he can't go there and she cannot travel here. They last saw each other January last year when he went to here and prior to that, October 2019 when she visited. I don't know what is going to happen there, frankly. It's easier for him but she lives somewhere very remote and rural and was desperate to be with him in London.

However, as you say, travel should have been curtailed earlier and the important thing is that we are safe. I keep saying this but it won't be forever, hard for those for whom time is the essence but going without a holiday abroad is not a big sacrifice.

@jessstan2 it’s not my relative, it’s @alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 🙂

They banned protests in time for when the public wake up to the governments lying corrupt ways when hell will break loose. We have been lied and manipulated too for months.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Thewiseoneincognito, given that I have had Covid, abided by the rules and continue to do so, I will put your patronising post down to your rudeness and lack of understanding for any point other than your own.[/quote]
Indeed. I’ll put your post down to naivety

@SakuraEdenSwan1

They banned protests in time for when the public wake up to the governments lying corrupt ways when hell will break loose. We have been lied and manipulated too for months.

😂 you really should go to bed

@Thewiseoneincognito you lost ALL credibility when you felt the need to ask the puerile question regarding if I “knew what Covid was“. It didn’t come across as smart, or witty...just embarrassing. If you are wise, you certainly are ‘incognito’.

What am I reading? Some of these posts are crazy.

@Siepie

So that's no relatives meeting DS until he's over a year old. His great-grandmother probably never meeting him. She doesn't even have the eyesight to manage video calls.

For a lot of people, international travel is not just about a fortnight at the beach.

This.