Where are people catching COVID?

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Can anyone point me in the direction of data showing the most common UK settings for catching COVID? I've seen some gov or test and trace slides somewhere but can't find them again!

Workplaces, care settings, schools and universities, multi generational/ overcrowded households.

The coronavirus surveillance reports give some detail on this, but because test and trace has been so useless, and measures weren't taken early enough to stop the spread getting out of control, we don't have a full picture.

Schools, mainly. 2 kids in my class have parents who are positive for covid. They are isolating. Children like to sneeze in my face. Fun times.

As an example of how it can work, a new case was identified in New Zealand this week. Within hours they'd worked out how the person had got the virus and exactly where they'd been. This information was publicised and those who had been in contact were tested. From this a few more cases were identified, and all are isolating.

Obviously the UK is far bigger than NZ, but it also has far greater resources to throw at the problem. If testing and tracing are done promptly, it's far easier to manage things. Also, tracing done locally is far more effective than some national call centre. Local tracers can be at a person's door within an hour, not ringing up a few days later and hoping that they answer.

@Hayeahnobut that works well when you have almost zero community transmission but when you have 25,000 new symptomatic cases each day, not forgetting the asymptotic cases it's a bit more challenging. Even with excellent track and trace

Does anyone have any evidence for the claims that schools are one of the main sources of transmission? From PHW statements it seems people socialising (in social clubs and peoples homes) have been the main sources.

Hayeahnobut have you got a link to the surveillance reports you mentioned?

Bluewavescrashing can you link to any evidence about the transmission in schools?

Thanks all

There have been 4 cases of coronavirus in my son's secondary school. In all 4 cases the child was infected by a parent not through being at school. The school is stringent in their measures and the four cases have not led to any other cases in school.

Everywhere surely?

How is it possible to work out where someone caught the virus? If someone has been to a hospital appointment, the pharmacy, tesco and to Starbucks for a takeaway coffee...how can they pinpoint which one of those was where they caught it?

@Bluewavescrashing

Schools, mainly. 2 kids in my class have parents who are positive for covid. They are isolating. Children like to sneeze in my face. Fun times.

Are you saying the parents caught it from being in school?

Exactly my thoughts @whatwouldyoudo85

Near me it's the local college that's had it worst.
Primary school has been perfect. High school only a few cases.

Dirty young adults 😂 😂 😂

Several kids in different schools near me have caught it, but not one through the school (one child in each school only I believe). The class or year group bubble isolates until they figure out which kids the have been in direct contact with the infected child, while the rest of the school gets on with it.
The first person I know has had a positive test -
she went to a birthday party on halloween and to a busy shopping centre the next day, both via public transport. She probably picked it up that weekend. She works in a school, but no child has it there (she is not a teacher so does not have much direct contact with the kids anyway).

From children, coming home with it, after catching it in school. That is what is emerging as one likely scenario, despite all the rubbish in the summer about children not catching or transmitting it. Duplicitous gits (the government & associates, not the kids)

I'm not in the UK. I live in a small European country that almost got rid of the virus but now we have more cases than ever and have got curfews everywhere and lockdown in two cities.

I have noticed that here a lot of our clusters of cases have been sports teams and food processing plants not schools and airports as some people think.

The other day there was around 100 cases from a meat processing plant and a while ago lots from a bakery and a factory where they packed salad.

For me it's interesting about the food processing thing. I watched a documentary about the transmission of germs and they found supermarkets to be worse than public transport and read somewhere the other day that Katya from strictly thinks she must have caught it when she nipped out for a coffee and a sandwich.

My DD's teacher was a close contact with the sports team cluster and self isolated only for a week and there hasn't been any cases so far in the school.

Very warily worded reports here

www.gov.uk/government/collections/sage-meetings-november-2020?fbclid=IwAR0nIxnBVdIibnVfiWgXR05XpcafZRy3KHcB0V8yKEsDICzZ_C67RooaqpY

You can click through to the various documents.

Schools/universities and supermarket were among the highest on the last data I looked at.

*supermarkets

Schools. Children spreading it. Half my school closed yesterday.

The secondary school where I work, we have had three cases. None of them have passed it to another child, or to a member of staff (that we know of, I realise some could have been asymptomatic). We're not the cesspit of germs people are keen to make out.

Nine cases in our secondary, eight had not been to school for two weeks prior. With the one case who had been in school no spreading. I’m guessing figures are counted as school cases even though they have been caught out in the community. One staff Member with infection, no spreading. In our Primary one case in my sons class (parent nhs worker) no spreading. Obviously there could be asynptomatic cases but I think a lot of schools are doing a very good job with their safety measures.

Between 17.5% and 25% (depending on area) of people in hospital with covid, caught it in hospital. So hospitals probably another source of infection.

I find it hard to believe its supermarkets. I work in a large one, I know people in many other branches and non of the stores have had outbreaks or even people isolating (one or two people at each one)

Universities themselves have very low transmission rates in terms of in teaching spaces; the transmission seems to be in social and domestic settings like halls of residence. They have also dropped right off in most places after an initial spike when term started.

I am in the US and it’s widely publicized here that 80% of our cases are from restaurants and bars.

Our schools are not open and get our numbers have gone through the roof from end of August till now.