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Should the international community sanction Israel over settler violence in West Bank?

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FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 20:03

The problem of Israeli terrorism is getting worse and worse. Just over the past few weeks amongst other things Israeli terrorists have killed multiple people, commited sexual assault, beaten and threatened to rape young Palestinian girls, continually attacked the residents and property of the only remaining fully Christian town in the West Bank, stolen 100s of sheep from the Bedouin community, beaten activists who are there to provide a protective presence to Palestinians, set fire to property.

Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves from this violent, rapidly escalating Israeli terrorism. They can't arrest and detain the Israeli terrorists. They are sitting ducks with no means of protecting themselves from beatings and sexual violence. Is it time that the international community steps in and sanctions Israel until they can control their obvious terrorism problem? What else can be done to try and protect innocent people from this escalating Israeli violence?

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Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 08:53

I just can’t understand how the UK government continues to allow trade with these people, pathetically advising against trade deals, rather than implementing a full legislative ban.

Well, other than the puny targeting of a few individuals, which entirely avoids the Israeli state structures at the root of the actions.

We only assume that the transactional benefits supersede the moral codes that form the basis for human rights and international law? I wonder about the details - how much and for whom?

IHateShein · 17/08/2026 09:08

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 08:01

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/israeli-settlers-seize-palestinian-water-092333678.html

This is beyond sick. Starving out Palestinians and having fun while doing it. As a farmer said, a bullet might kill one person but cutting off the water kills an entire community.

Everyone now using that reservoir is complicit in genocide.
I can see plenty of families in those photos.

Disgusting human behaviour.

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 09:31

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 08:53

I just can’t understand how the UK government continues to allow trade with these people, pathetically advising against trade deals, rather than implementing a full legislative ban.

Well, other than the puny targeting of a few individuals, which entirely avoids the Israeli state structures at the root of the actions.

We only assume that the transactional benefits supersede the moral codes that form the basis for human rights and international law? I wonder about the details - how much and for whom?

Whenever I hear a government spokesperson from any Western Government talk about human rights, morality or the rule of international law I just laugh. It is so awful and hypocritical there is nothing else to do.

cantgardenintherain · 17/08/2026 09:38

I agree @Ellen2shoes. It’s a great idea. And let some people laugh.

IHateShein · 17/08/2026 09:45

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 08:53

I just can’t understand how the UK government continues to allow trade with these people, pathetically advising against trade deals, rather than implementing a full legislative ban.

Well, other than the puny targeting of a few individuals, which entirely avoids the Israeli state structures at the root of the actions.

We only assume that the transactional benefits supersede the moral codes that form the basis for human rights and international law? I wonder about the details - how much and for whom?

Teva Pharmaceuticals is the major trade deal we are probably turning a blind eye for.

They supply 1 in 7 of the prescription drugs issued in the UK.
Loads of other medical equipment too.

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 10:00

IHateShein · 17/08/2026 09:45

Teva Pharmaceuticals is the major trade deal we are probably turning a blind eye for.

They supply 1 in 7 of the prescription drugs issued in the UK.
Loads of other medical equipment too.

But they are easily replaceable.

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 10:06

I have resorted to AI:

‘UK is not critically or uniquely dependent on Israel for any goods, resources, or technology that cannot be sourced or replaced elsewhere.’

If so, what’s the delay?

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 10:12

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 10:00

But they are easily replaceable.

Not easily, that is the problem. There are replacements but it could result in shortages and disruptions to prescription drug supplies even though temporarily. It may also increase costs and you how our governments feel about that. It's actually short sighted that we haven't already sourced alternative supply chains. Having said that, I don't think that is the reason we haven't sanctioned.

Newbutoldfather · 17/08/2026 10:17

There is little point in unilaterally sanctioning Israel. It would just be expensive virtue signalling.

The sanctions need to be something that Israel cares about and is prepared to change policy over, as happened with South Africa.

Ultimately, the U.S also has to get behind them.

I do think Israel has gone too far, though. Even newspapers like the Telegraph are carrying stories of settler harassment and land grabs. That would have been unthinkable a few months ago.

The below is what should be scaring Netanyahu. Support for Israel (as is now) will vanish if the democrats get in, and it is even dropping significantly among republican voters.

www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/2/27/us-citizens-support-for-israel-at-historic-low-over-gaza-genocide-poll

rainingsnoring · 17/08/2026 10:34

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 08:53

I just can’t understand how the UK government continues to allow trade with these people, pathetically advising against trade deals, rather than implementing a full legislative ban.

Well, other than the puny targeting of a few individuals, which entirely avoids the Israeli state structures at the root of the actions.

We only assume that the transactional benefits supersede the moral codes that form the basis for human rights and international law? I wonder about the details - how much and for whom?

Because playing politics is more important to them than any sort of moral code or international law. Also, Israel would retaliate. Look what they have done to the Spanish in Ceuta bcause the Spanish PM spoke out against the Israeli genocide.

rainingsnoring · 17/08/2026 10:36

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TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 10:39

Ellen2shoes · 17/08/2026 10:06

I have resorted to AI:

‘UK is not critically or uniquely dependent on Israel for any goods, resources, or technology that cannot be sourced or replaced elsewhere.’

If so, what’s the delay?

Are you reliant on any of these drugs, where a shortage - even a temporary one - could have an impact on your health? If it results in a cost to the NHS which leads to more cuts would that impact you at all? It's easy to talk about how simple it would be to change supplier when your health or even life isn't on the line.

Newbutoldfather · 17/08/2026 10:41

@rainingsnoring ,

I do think that it is really important to stick to facts here (of which there are plenty) and not spread anti Israeli (and close to antisemitic) conspiracy theories.

There is zero meaningful evidence that Israel had anything to do with Ceuta. The most credible explanation is the (Islamic) opposition parties in Morocco wanting to embarrass the government, especially as Spain were getting closer to Algeria.

It is similar to another conspiracy theory a friend of mine was absolutely convinced was true about Netanyahu threatening Spain with sabotage. Again, didn’t happen.

I always think that if I can’t find two reputable mainstream media sources for a story, these days it is probably fake news.

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 10:41

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Absolutely! If you've never read "Those who dared to speak out" or something like that, by Senator Paul Findley you should. This has been going on since the 80's.

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 10:53

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 10:41

Absolutely! If you've never read "Those who dared to speak out" or something like that, by Senator Paul Findley you should. This has been going on since the 80's.

The same guy who blamed Israel for 9/11? And who formed the CNI alongside a Holocaust denier? No thanks.

Newbutoldfather · 17/08/2026 10:54

It would be an awful shame if this thread, about settler violence, which is happening, and is being increasingly reported in all MSM, declined into antisemitic tropes.

Who are these Israelis who ‘control’ global media? And how would they do it in wealthy countries with a free media? They can’t pay a few million quid and control multi billion corporations. The reality is that some posters are thinking of some shadowy cabal of Jews who somehow run all the instruments of state. And that really isn’t on.

Israel don’t even control their own media! Look how many Haaretz and Times of Israel articles are linked to on here criticising the Israeli government. Again, I know that the press is losing its freedom under Netanyahu, especially regarding access.

I am not denying that Israel has an effective lobby and seek to influence how they are seen in the world via this lobby. But, virtually all regimes do this these days. Israel doesn’t have some magic power that Saudi Arabia doesn’t (for instance).

I suspect that most media still supports Israel (up to a point) as they are used to it. But, there is plenty of MSM highly critical of Israel and their government. And when the story turns (as I think it is starting to now) you will be amazed how fast and how far it will turn. (What Private eye would term a ‘reverse ferret’).

Newbutoldfather · 17/08/2026 11:01

In a sense I can empathise with the press here, as it is my instinct to sympathise with Israel, as a Jew of a certain age.

I spent a month there as a late teenager, travelling around and meeting vague relatives and friends of the family. I have rarely been to a more hospitable country and the people I stayed with weren’t racist in the least.

i also wandered through East Jerusalem in the Arab quarter and was equally made to feel welcome.

It is tragic that I have to now acknowledge that Israel today is nothing like it was then and the hostile muscular settlers are a very different breed to the well educated people I spent time with, and that Netanyahu is becoming increasingly racist and autocratic.

I think it takes time for people (including the media) to change their allegiances. Where some see conspiracy, I just see old habits taking time to break.

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 11:07

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 10:53

The same guy who blamed Israel for 9/11? And who formed the CNI alongside a Holocaust denier? No thanks.

Okay. What about "Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic" by Ilan Pappe?

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 11:25

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 10:53

The same guy who blamed Israel for 9/11? And who formed the CNI alongside a Holocaust denier? No thanks.

And on another note, Findley stated that part of the hostility in the ME towards the US was because of their support for Israel, but he did not assert that this support was the exclusive or direct cause of the 9/11 attacks so he was not actually blaming Israel.

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 11:39

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 11:25

And on another note, Findley stated that part of the hostility in the ME towards the US was because of their support for Israel, but he did not assert that this support was the exclusive or direct cause of the 9/11 attacks so he was not actually blaming Israel.

He said the support was the main motivation for 9/11 and it wouldn't have happened without it.

Squeezingwildoranges · 17/08/2026 11:49

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 11:39

He said the support was the main motivation for 9/11 and it wouldn't have happened without it.

If Al Qaeda's main grievance of the US was that support, how would he have been wrong? Your first statement implied that he was saying Israel was involved which is blatantly untrue.

rainingsnoring · 17/08/2026 12:04

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Newbutoldfather · 17/08/2026 12:20

@rainingsnoring ,

‘This not about Jewish people at all. I specifically said Israel trying to control the Western media.

There is nothing anti semitic about this statement.‘

We are both internet strangers to one another, so I hope you are coming from a good place. But, surely you know that ‘Jews control the media’ is considered a huge antisemitic trope. And just substituting the word Israel for Jews doesn’t make it totally innocent.

‘Have you not seen this? And this is what he is happy to say in public!’

I just watched it now. It is a very weird young looking smiley Netanyahu. How old is it and do you actually know it is real?!

Even If it is, he is talking about TikTok and X to counter anti-Israeli influencers, not controlling global media.

Of course, Israel will try to influence the narrative in the U.S, but they don’t control the media at all. I read the WSJ amongst other papers etc and their tone has changed completely towards Israel recently, and they are fairly right wing.

TheLilacSnake · 17/08/2026 12:38

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That channel is unhinged. Where did you find it?

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