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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel's macabre world records: after the number of children killed, now it's the highest number of UN fatalities *ever* recorded in a *single* conflict

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Ohlalalalala · 06/11/2023 17:10

Israel-Palestine crisis: “Enough is enough” state UN agencies, NGOs

"Almost twenty heads of United Nations agencies and partner NGOs launched a new call on Sunday for a humanitarian ceasefire. "

"Scores of aid workers have been killed since October 7 including 88 UNRWA colleagues – the highest number of United Nations fatalities ever recorded in a single conflict."

https://unric.org/en/un-israel-palestine-un-agencies-ngos/

Israel-Palestine crisis: “Enough is enough” state UN agencies, NGOs

Almost twenty heads of United Nations agencies and partner NGOs launched a new call on Sunday for a humanitarian ceasefire.

https://unric.org/en/un-israel-palestine-un-agencies-ngos

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abuppkiss · 06/11/2023 19:17

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EasterIssland · 06/11/2023 19:19

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i was going to reply to you but I’m just going to leave this here for you and report your comment

bearofepic · 06/11/2023 19:19

@Tigerteal Indeed, many posters trying to cover up these crimes with their distraction, denial and whataboutery appear to have an Islamophobic agenda instead.

Those maliciously distracting from war crimes in Palestine and then suggesting others are racist should look in the mirror.

Reallifelurker · 06/11/2023 19:21

Mumsnet is a forum where we can all post an opinion.

Said one of the people who’ve been berating the OP just for starting the thread.

EasterIssland · 06/11/2023 19:22

Btw @abuppkiss congrats 3 messages in MN and one of them reported for hate speech. Wish all these new accounts being created for supporting Israel would be a bit more empathetic with those dying in both sides rather that just type hate …

flufferknutter · 06/11/2023 19:22

Wow, I'm picking up vibes of sheer desperation from some of our friends tonight. I wonder if they're feeling the pressure.

Rhetoric from the international community is ramping up. People are getting angry. Can't be very comfortable.

Tigerteal · 06/11/2023 19:23

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Reallifelurker · 06/11/2023 19:24

Wow, I'm picking up vibes of sheer desperation from some of our friends tonight. I wonder if they're feeling the pressure.

I expect it’s touched a nerve.

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Parkingt111 · 06/11/2023 19:34

sunshinesupermum · 06/11/2023 17:31

A ceasefire is desperately needed Not until the hostages taken on 7th October are freed and sent home safely.

Genuine question.
Do you think the hostages have a better chance of being released if a ceasefire was negotiated or if Israel continued pounding the Gaza strip where many hostages are held?
My personal view is that there is a much higher chance to have a greater number of hostages released and united with their loved ones If there was a ceasefire.
The way it's continuing now unfortunately greatly diminishes those chances

Tigerteal · 06/11/2023 19:37

@Parkingt111
@sunshinesupermum

Israel has already said their priority is getting rid of Hamas. My understanding of the unsaid sentence here is that they are willing to do this at the risk of these innocent hostages.

sunshine, you need to be writing to the Israeli PM and seriously urging him to reconsider instead of wasting time on here.

Gardenowl · 06/11/2023 19:37

LauraNorda · 06/11/2023 18:39

Hamas started by murdering babies and slaughtering music festival attendants, against an opponent that has a worldwide reputation for kicking ass on an epic scale.

As I have said before, I always support the most civilised side in a dispute. Hamas exists only to kill all jews. I can't find any evidence that Israel has stated that they want to kill all muslims / arabs / palestinians.

No, Israel doesn't say it; just goes ahead and does it. Start by comparing the number of deaths perpetrated by Israel and Hamas. Even though Israel wants to portray itself as a moral authority they fall short even compared to terrorists. Facts speak for themselves.

Tigerteal · 06/11/2023 19:44

@Gardenowl please have a look at the Palestinian map from 1946 to today. There is no bigger truth than that and if you choose to believe it’s all cotton candy then that’s fine

🙂

Parkingt111 · 06/11/2023 19:45

Tigerteal · 06/11/2023 19:37

@Parkingt111
@sunshinesupermum

Israel has already said their priority is getting rid of Hamas. My understanding of the unsaid sentence here is that they are willing to do this at the risk of these innocent hostages.

sunshine, you need to be writing to the Israeli PM and seriously urging him to reconsider instead of wasting time on here.

Let's not be mean. we can disagree and still be kind to each other 😊
That's a reminder for myself too

Gardenowl · 06/11/2023 19:48

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Teentaxidriver · 06/11/2023 19:54

"There is already another thread by the same OP on the same subject. We don't need a new one every 20 minutes. Its the same few posters posting on all the same threads."

You have to wonder where these posters are coming from. There is a lot of evidence that foreign agents and foreign powers are deliberately trying influence opinion in this country.

"i just created an account to say this." Really, so you just popped onto MN to voice this one view having never posted before? Convenient that Ohlalala is available to give you a round of applause.

bearofepic · 06/11/2023 19:57

Teentaxidriver · 06/11/2023 19:54

"There is already another thread by the same OP on the same subject. We don't need a new one every 20 minutes. Its the same few posters posting on all the same threads."

You have to wonder where these posters are coming from. There is a lot of evidence that foreign agents and foreign powers are deliberately trying influence opinion in this country.

"i just created an account to say this." Really, so you just popped onto MN to voice this one view having never posted before? Convenient that Ohlalala is available to give you a round of applause.

there certainly is a lot of evidence, and it seems that the Israeli govt bots are doing a great job of attempting to derail threads that seek to expose war crimes by posting the same tired denial and distraction techniques on every single one.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 06/11/2023 19:57

The UN is horribly prejudiced against Isreal and maybe someone should make a big noise about the release of the hostages 30 of whom are children.

bearofepic · 06/11/2023 19:58

@Lovepeaceunderstanding or maybe Israeli govt is horribly prejudiced against the UN, because the UN is showing up its horrific war crimes.

BelleHathor · 06/11/2023 19:58

1234Kitty · 06/11/2023 18:41

Israel has spent $7.1 million on social media ads in support of their cause since 7/10. They have the technology and the intelligence structures to use bots as well.
I seriously wonder how many of the posts on here, Reddit, X and Instagram are by real humans. It utterly blows my mind that someone can read the opening post and and just go "meh".

There is a whole military department dedicated to this, that has been activated across social media. Spoken about at the 5 minute mark in this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHQKJTnBoY&t=602s

How Israel Lies About Literally Everything

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Twillow · 06/11/2023 19:59

soddingspiderseason · 06/11/2023 17:15

Here we go again. Are there not enough threads already on this issue? They all become echo chambers for people who have a very specific viewpoint. Ive stopped bothering to read them.

But here you are, telling us you don't care.
Rather callous, don't you think?

Twillow · 06/11/2023 20:03

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 06/11/2023 19:57

The UN is horribly prejudiced against Isreal and maybe someone should make a big noise about the release of the hostages 30 of whom are children.

Hmm I wonder why they might be prejudiced against a state that imposes apartheid on it's neighbour? I suppose the UN is antisemitic...?

No-one's stopping anyone from shouting about the hostages. You might remind Netanyahu of that, he seems to have made it a secondary goal. I really hope those 30 children are still alive and I won't be so crass as to whatabout the number of Gazan children already dead.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 06/11/2023 20:04

bearofepic · 06/11/2023 19:58

@Lovepeaceunderstanding or maybe Israeli govt is horribly prejudiced against the UN, because the UN is showing up its horrific war crimes.

@bearofepic . Nope.

bearofepic · 06/11/2023 20:05

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 06/11/2023 20:04

@bearofepic . Nope.

I think I will trust the UN over you.