Temping Buddies 6

[duchesse]

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Have overridden chart with ovulating day 17...as that is what I think we think ?! Ready need you to check chart and see what you think...please as sure I did ovulate puts me at 9 dpo.... which is also good as looking back at charts my temp started dipping at 8/9 dpo basically though haven't a clue ?!

duchesse - ° CD5 - LP14 (8th cycle since m/c, 45th cycle ftc -not breaking any records yet, but trying...)
Mum03 - ° CD18 ?4dpo! LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.27° CD19 LP14 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD20 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD22 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° DPO5 CD23 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD25 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD25 10/11dpo LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 37.25° CD26 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - ° 11dpo CD31 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 -° CD32 19dpo LP12 (14th cycle) BFP
MrsMc ? CD39 20/21dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle) BFP

Still no ovulation for me - I have ovulated on 19 before, so who knows.

Minxi - It certainly looks from your temps as though you ovulated on 17 - but your EWCM suggests earlier. (?) I'd stick with 17 as ther are 6 temps below 18's temp and them's the rules --- it was a good decision to override FF - can't work out why it didn't even suggest ovulation for you on 19 when there was another temp rise (not that I think that would have been accurate - but it would have looked like FF was paying some attention!!). Your temp has shot up this morning hasn't it! Good sign hopefully [crossed fingers] - you haven't been this hot before have you? How are you feeling?

NappyValley - LOL at "the one armed bandit" - bless him! Hope you have (had) a lovely holiday. Not sure if anyone else picked up on your question, but BD=Baby dancing. I much prefer your Bump Uglies We should adopt that!

Rah - Hope you are ok chick!? How is it not temping? Fingers crossed for you

Anyone seen Iwillbe?? She hasn't updated her chart for ages!! Bit concerned.

Jess - Glad you are feeling a bit more positive! I am going to take a break from temping next month too. I definitely sleep less well now that I am temping - I wake up and work out if it is worth temping and adjusting up, or if I can get away with going back to sleep. Glad I am not the only one Affected By The Thermometer!

Feedmenow - Is it a fertility friend or TCOYF chart that you've got? How are you getting on with remembering to temp? I think that once you get into the habit, it's harder to forget. Or perhaps it's just me!

Mum03 Hope you have (had) a lovely time with your parents. Hope they enjoyed seeing "Mum-House" - which reminds me, I must go and check out your blog!

Beansprout - Greedy answered your temp question, I'll just add my tuppence worth if I may? I think that if your temps are pretty consistent at a level, or in a range, then a drastically higher temp would be food for thought - but the overall pattern is more important than the actual temps - if that makes sense. How long have you been charting? How are you feeling?

Seaside - Don't be daft, no blushing either! We'd almost forgotten what a BFP was - now you and MrsMc in one month - let us revel in it!! How are you feeling?

Cityangel - How are you getting on with not temping? Do you think it has made you more relaxed at all?

Duchesse - How you feeling?

Sorry if I have missed anyone!!

Dear Ladies - am wondering if I could butt in and ask a few questions??

Am sick of not knowing if I've ovulated or not. CD 16 - Could have been yesterday, could be right now, could be next week... As this is only my second cycle after m/c, hormones are all the place and might have longer cycle so might have jumped the gun with this week's shagathon
So think next month am going to have into get into this temping lark - just so I know when to stop BD-ing!!
Could I join you and can anyone help me out and explain in idiot's terms? Have I got this right?

1. I use digital thermometer first thing in the morning
2. Temp goes up suddenly telling you HAVE ovulated not that you are ABOUT to
3. Temp stays high and falls just before AF

What's the best way to record temp? I noticed some ladies seem to doing it on websites? Are these free? Which is the best one?

I'm presuming there's no point starting temping now, you have to wait till CD1??

Thank you!

Hi basil - so sorry to hear of your m/c - do come and join us - this is a brilliant thread

Re temping:
Yes - you need a digital thermometer but it must be a BBT (Basal Body Therm) you can order these online or get one at Boots (in the ovulation kits/tests section) in comes in a lovely little folder with a booklet to chart your temps on! (I seem to remember it being about £13?)

You need to take your temp every morning as soon as you wake (before going to loo, drink of water or anything!) It is best to try and keep the time roughly the same every morning if you can.

It is ideal to start on CD1 and you are looking for lower temps pre ov and then a distinct temp shift upwards (around 0.1-0.2 degrees c) when this shift happens it indicates you have ovulated in the previous 24-36 hour period.

Temp should then stay high (above your cover line which is basically a line you can draw just above at least the previous 6 low temps before ov) until AF - sometime it will stay high for a few days into AF also - mine used to.

There are 2 really good software charting websites - Ovusoft and Fertility Friend -Ovusoft is really good but you have to pay straight away (not too much though) for a yearly subscription. FF gives you a free trial and then you can choose to pay and keep all the VIP features or continue free with basic charting.

If you check out some of our charts on this thread you can get an idea of the 2 websites and see how we chart/ what it looks like also

Charting and temping is realy good for getting to know and understand your cycle especially if you are a bit anal and controlling like me The first cycle you chart will all be a bit blind IYKWIM but hopeully as you go along with subsequent cycles you will start to recognise your own personal patterns

There are loads of brilliant, wonderful and knowledegeable girls on this thread who will help you out and answer any questions

HTH - good luck

Just nipping in to say got my period - a bit earlier than usual, GREAT! Really in a deep sulk, so will go and weep some more and come back when my mood lifts a bit.

Seaside.... Remember I am waiting for your recipe of success (all your remedies and drops etc!- I know you posted them before, but I will pay more attention this time promise!)

Rah - Oh flower, big hugs. I am really sorry.

Basilbrush - Welcome to the thread, everything Seaside said is bang on, so I won't repeat it - but you are very welcome to join us here. I personally use the Fertility Friend software, the basic membership which is free, because I have the little booklet that Seaside mentioned that I use for me - the FF is just to share the charts with the girls. How long have you been trying? Hope you enjoy the thread - we are a lovely bunch!

Seaside - How you feeling?

Hello all how are you? My temps have been 36.8 the last couple of days

Have a good trip Nappy

Mum03 ? hope you are having a lovely weekend with your parents it?ll help you get through the 2WW too! fingers crossed.

Minxi ? you?re a hot lady! Fingers crossed.

Jess ? how are you feeling? hopeful?

Hey Ready I?m concerned about Iwillbe too how are you hon?

Ah Basil, we meet again welcome to the wonderful world of temping! Seaside?s advice is spot on. I?d add to get a copy of Toni Weschler?s book Taking Charge of Your Fertility, it will tell you everything you need to know about temping and much more about TTC, I found it fascinating. I also plan to use the method when I am trying not to be pg in future as I am not allowed to take the pill again. You can get a free trial of the ovusoft charting software, I think it?s 30 days, I love it so then bought it, it was about £20 or £30 quid but worth it in my opinion. Temping is good for many reasons but the main ones are (1) you get an idea after a chart or two if and when you are likely to OV (2) you can pinpoint your fertile days (3) you can make yourself see sense when you get all worked up about BFNs and am I/aren?t I (4) you can monitor things like headaches, CM etc and see patterns (5) you can obsess about TTC in a scientific way!

RahRah so sorry hon.

MrsMc have just sent you a CAT whatchamaflip
Thank you and to you Ready and Seaside for all your fab advice.
Am off to stare at the clock till 5pm - then I can have a Fri glass of vino without feeling like an alchey [hmmm]

Rah - oh hon I am so sorry and gutted for you but at least an early AF means a quicker turnaround - I used to hate my short cycles but recently I have been quite happy with them as they meant shorter waiting times before and after OV

basil - MrsMc is right - get the TCOYF book - it is really helpful

Ready - feeling OK thanks hon - no symtoms really? a few cramps still at least once a day. And find myself falling asleep everyday for about 2 hours in the afternoon and having mad vivid dreams but then that could also be cos we're still on holiday and have been having lots of walks and drives in the fresh air?! Still in utter denial - trying to temper my excitement as it still feels too good to be true.

MrsMc - I'm still temping and am planning to stop once I have seen the GP next week - even though he will do nothing!! OMG 12 weeks seems so far away - I feel like I will not be excited until we get there safe and sound??

Right Rah - you asked for it - I posted this in the Hut so apologies for the repeat but I am too lazy to re-type!
Here you go - seasides 07 plan for conception :

Alternative therapies:
Feb - went to Natural Health/Chinese Medicine Doc- big blood tests - confirmed low ovarian reserve - started taking 2 herbal supplement mixes (mixed by doc)
Feb - Began going to Cranio Sacaral Osteopath again (used to go for IBS few years ago)
Feb - Started acupuncture - every week for three weeks and then every other week.
March - bought fertility spell on ebay (along with londonlottie)- but hey - some of the money went to charity ebay spell Although it may be a load of hoccum - I think the affirmation you have to say (and try not to giggle while saying it) about welcoming a baby into your life blah blah blah may actually be a good excercise even though I had a hard time not being sarcastic about it
April - began taking flower essence mixture morning and evening after reading this on MN -I mixed up my own solution and started straight in with both ingredients and also added in White Chestnut essence too when I found this website think I might have overdone the brandy a bit but I have to say I felt a lot calmer last month?

Conventional medicine:
Feb had first CD21 test to confirm ov - normal
Mar - DH sperm analysis - normal
April - CD21 again - normal
May - first appointment with consultant and booked in for CD3 test and lap/dye and or HSG for June???
and last but not least DH and I had a huge falling out because he got a job abroad at the end of April so was away from CD3-11 - went mental but then got over it and settled down for another 6ww. Anyway when he came back on CD11 we managed 4 shags - one a day CD11-14 and actually it was pretty spontaneous (as much as it has been for a while) Anyway we gave up again on CD15 and then had a limp one of CD 17 and then no more so TBH I was not that hopeful- never am?
So the moral of the sorry story is send your DH away for a few day pre ov and absence make the heart (read - penis!!) grow stronger.
Oh and we used preseed on 2 shags for the fist time also I am sure this must have helped?

All the above has cost a small fortune (although not as much as it would have done had we still been in London - then it would have been double I think) but thats me - desperate and wiling to go bankrupt trying - and I was mentally getting ready for the IVF £ hit anyway! credit cards are a glorious thing

Sorry for the essay everyone!
xx

Hi all! Ready, I HAVE been remembering to take my temp 3 days in a row now!!! Clever l'il me! Am using fertility friend....is there an opinion as to which is better, or are all pretty much the same?
Anyway, I have a question for anyone that cares to read on. I started temping earlier in my cycle then forgot for ages, and have now started again. I am now going to try and post a link to my chart cos I want someone to check out the last 3 days for me and tell me if this is OK (not going to say "normal" cos everyone is different) or if I should get a new thermometer!
Feedmenow

Seaside - Tiredness is definitely a symptom, and the cramping too Glad you are ok. I understand that "too good to be true" mentality - but do try to enjoy the excitement - you and DH have a little secret now

Feedmenow - Chick!! Your link takes us to your log-in page... if I remember right, if you go into the sharing option on FF (the options on the left hand side) and go to homepage set-up there is your unique web adress - copy that and link it. Hope that makes sense, then we'll all have a gander at it

Oh and feedmenow - I think that TCOYF charts are prettier to look at - but since I only wanted an online chart to share with you gals, I didn't see the point in paying for the privilege, when FF basic is free forever. See how you get on with FF, if you like it you can keep the VIP features for money (not sure how much) and if you want something with more factors to add in, then TCOYF might be worth a look. Depends how scientific you are intending to get

Take 2!!
Feedmenow

rah - so sorry sweetheart {{{{{HUGS}}}}

Basil (and anyone else who hasn't) can really recommend the TCOYF book - I bought it after someone on the TTC after mc thread last year said she'd bought and promptly conceived that month after months of no luck following her mc. So I did the same and conceived 2 months in a row after reading it after not having much luck previously. I also plan, like you MrsMc to use it conversely to prevent pg once we have had this little one, as I'm also not allowed to take the pill again (AND I AM NOT HAVING A COIL FITTED!!!! - sorry, I kept having them forced on me after DD was born, but I have a bit of an irrational phobia of the idea of them!!)

take care all

xxx

Oh lottie - must have missed your post by a matter of minutes last night.

Thank you for your warm wishes it means a great deal. Have been thinking about you lots.

I am so sorry for all you that you are going through and hope and pray you will look back in no time at all and that it was all meant to be and life has opened a beautiful window for you that is amazing and unexpected (hopefully with a baby to boot).

I know I am the last person you probably wan to talk to but if you ever need anything: seaside72atgooglemail.com.

Much love, {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{big hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} and super strength.
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duchesse - ° CD6 - LP14 (8th cycle since m/c, 45th cycle ftc -not breaking any records yet, but trying...)
Mum03 - ° CD19 ?5dpo! LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD20 LP14 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD21 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD23 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° DPO6 CD24 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD26 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD26 11/12dpo LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.75° CD27 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - ° 12dpo CD32 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 -° CD33 20dpo LP12 (14th cycle) BFP
MrsMc ? CD40 21/22dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle) BFP

Morning girls....my dramatic temp drop looks like it is game over for me this month...will just wait for af to arrive! This temp lark is annoying when you know the inevitable results! Anyway onwards and upwards doing the moonwalk tonight so need to get plenty of rest as still am full of cold! ugh! but Dh has it worse apparently ?! yes but he's not walking 26 miles though the night!

Lottie - so sorry to hear your news...like seaside says something will happen to change your life around some things are just not meant to be...we wont forget you though !

Ready - hope you are alright haven't seen much of you last few days...so thinking of you and hope all alright...have been feeling ok - felt a tad crazy in the week a couple of times but actually relatively calmer this month...less tearful in fact no tears?!

Rah...sorry to see af maybe on her way...I am definitely trying accupuncture anything actually to give me a start on the pg road again!

MrsMc/Seaside - hope you are doinhg well..

Everyone else must go as need food, sleep and rest today before I head across London...mad urrr yes, did moonwalk last year and its bloody hard - but worth it

Hello Laydees -

Decided to start charting this morning to practice! I'm 36.4 which is right near the bottom of the graph - does that mean I probably have not ovulated yet?? ( and bascially keep at it hammer and tongs...)
I know everyone is different and it'll a while to figure out my patterns but I remember now that when I took my temp for 6 days in luteal phase last cycle (just out of interest) it was 37. So if this cycle is the same, it would suggest I'm not in luteal phase yet??

{waves} hello! to all i haven't the pleasure of meeting yet

basilbrush - sounds like you haven't ov'd yet to me so you might still be in time for this month! my pre ov temps were always 36.3 or 36.4 and then 36.7-36.9 post ov. happy shagging!

hello chicks!!

its so nice to be back online again after soooo long away have had no end of trouble with internet connection but all seems ok now

how brilliant to come back to such exciting news!!! CONGRATULATIONS MRSMCJNR AND SEASIDE!!! WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

i cant believe you got your bfp so quick mrsmc you are so so lucky i really hope this time it all pans out well and your condition gets looked at straightaway!!

seaside - wow! after 14 months you really have given me hope that it IS possible for me, im really really pleased you and dp must be over the moon especially after beginning all of your fertility tests too!

i havnt had much of a chance to read and see whats going on -just skim reading really!!

welcome to basil brush! and sorry for everyone whos af arrived

i am guessing i will be at the top of the list again tomorrow as af due anytime soon, i went for my cd21 blood test last monday so ringing up for results this monday. i havnt temped this month - only at the beginning i kind of gave up as we went camping on the "crucial days" so knew in them conditions my temp would not be accurate so decided to leave it at home!

ready - hello! i hope everything is ok with you? saw you posted you had lots going on at home, nothing bad i hope?

rahrah,minxi, mum03,beansprout howdie!! hope you are allkeeping well and shagged for england this month!!

duchesse - ° CD6 - LP14 (8th cycle since m/c, 45th cycle ftc -not breaking any records yet, but trying...)
Mum03 - ° CD19 ?5dpo! LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD20 LP14 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD21 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - 36.9° CD23 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° DPO6 CD24 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD26 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD26 11/12dpo LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.75° CD27 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - ° 12dpo CD32 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 -° CD33 20dpo LP12 (14th cycle) BFP
MrsMc ? CD40 21/22dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle) BFP

Hello everyone and a big welcome to basil!! I also think you may have not ovulated yet. My pre ov temp is around 36.4 and post ov is 36.7/8, although today's 36.9 is a record high! Do you know what CD you are on? Please feel free to add yourself to the list.

I am foul and grumpy today. Dh is v busy at the moment and I am just feeling stuck - at work, at home, and with this stupid body of mine. I think the 2ww may be getting to me.

Iwillbe and minxi- good to see you but sorry that AF is on her damn way (again). Good luck with the moonwalk minxi, I'm v impressed!!
Rah - sorry about your CD1 as well, so miserable to be there again. I really feel for you.

Lottie - if you are around, I'm really sorry to hear your news. I hope you are taking good care of yourself.

Ready - have you ov yet?

Seaside - that's an impressive list my friend. How are you today? And MrsMcJnr are you ok too?

Nappy am with you on the change to BU and after this many cycles I am sick of the sight of 'em!! Hope you have a good trip - which seaside are you at?

Duchesse, Jess, everyone else hope you are all ok and having a good weekend.

I am having af pains and have brown cm. I think af is on her way and I'm only 11dpo. I've never ever had such a short cycle. I'm well and truly p**d off.

Jess - I'm sorry to hear that. You ok?

Iwillbe - lovely to see you back!

beansprout - sorry you have had a grumpy one - and are feeling stuck - hope Sunday is happier

Jess - rubbish about AF symptoms - on the plus side a short cycle brings next OV around quicker Some months I would start geting brown cm/spotting at 10dpo and would just make it to 12dpo before the next cycle started. Our cylcles have a mind of their own - just when you think you know what's coming they like to throw you off track!

basil temps look like classic pre-ov as everyone else said. Do add yourself into the list with CD and usual LP length (if you know it)

Hi everyone else - I am back home now and am going to flop into bed - hope you are all doing OK - xxx