Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

[fairypangolin]

We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

[Nokkie73]

The Wolf Pack is affectionate, by the way, from the film the Hangover. Shit - remember those.....hangovers ?

[Sharonbenn]

I like the wolf pack it's cute. I am rubbish with hangovers. Although I am starting to miss a nice glass of wine.

I've been trying to remember all the tips everyone has given so far but can't remember them all so I'll be asking the same questions at each stage no doubt.

[ScarlettInSpace]

I had to begrudgingly put my onesie on the wash last night because it had started to resemble a dog blanket my puppy thinks me in onesie = doggie cushion and I don't really discourage him

Still no sign of the witch here so no jabbing til at least Tuesday...

Detox finished yesterday, half a stone & an inch off my waist which I rightly celebrated with half a bottle of red last night and McDonalds for lunch today. Steak and blue cheese for tea tonight then back on the wagon tomorrow...

Hope you're all having a nice weekend, I've been trying all day to avoid the Leaning Tower of Ironing all day even pretended to feel sick post McDs so I could have a kip on the sofa but it's no good, I can't dodge it any longer

[Northey]

Congrats on detox success! If I get a bfn, I am going on the most almighty diet...

[Nokkie73]

Sharon - Well I had a glass of red last night and decided NOT to feel guilty about it. I'm being so good that I think one now and again whilst DR'ing won't hurt. The clinic said it's fine too. I thoroughly enjoyed it, I have to say.

Scarlett - the state of your onesie made me laugh. Are you going to start DR'ing when the little beeatch AF is here ? Well done on the detoxing and weight loss and an even bigger well done on the way you fell off the wagon. Worthy of the utmost respect !

Noks x

[fairypangolin]

Hi sharon -sorry for the confusion, when I look at MN the talk sections are all organised into topics and this thread is pretty easy to find under Conception but maybe it's not obvious on everyone's computer/phone.

[ScarlettInSpace]

northey part of the reason for this detox was to get rid of so
R of the shit left over from the last [failed] IVF, I'd deffo do this again and sooner if this next go doesn't work out.

noks I had a bad time with down reg last time and a really poor response [one good size follie and another wee one] hence it was abandoned, so I'm straight to stim this time on antagonist short protocol.

And I was pissed after 2 glasses last night which is hilarious as I'm well known for the amount of vino I can sink

[Nokkie73]

Scarlett - do you mind me asking how many follies you had pre-ivf when they did your initial scans ? I had seven on my initial scan and am on a high dose of Gonal-F for stimms. X

I spent years and tens of thousands of pounds building-up my alcohol (and fag) tolerance. Some said that I was hollow...happy days !

[ScarlettInSpace]

When I had my hycosy my R ovary [which is the side I have no tube due to an ectopic years ago] was apparently 'small & pre-menopausal' but my L ovary was health and had 4-5 follies on it, which the consultant said was good Dr Google disagrees hmmm

As it happens my L ovary failed to show up at the IVF party and the 2 follies actually grew on my previously dismissed R ovary

I've decided none of them really know what they're talking about, as long as they are giving me the treatment I want in the manner I want it then I just try to take what they say with a pinch of salt iykwim...

[Nokkie73]

How completely strange. I have come to the same conclusion as you - I don't think they really know how each of us will respond until we take the drugs. The only certainty is the uncertainty of it all. Have they said anything about why the short antagonist protocol is better for you this time ?

Thanks for being so candid. I really appreciate it.

Noks x

[ScarlettInSpace]

No problem, it's nice to not have to start by explaining what a follicle is like I do if I speak to people in RL lol!

I don't think I could've done long protocol again as the down reg affected me hideously, it nearly destroyed me and it's taken 3-4 months to get out of the depression I believe it brought on, if I'm being entirely frank! I also think it was unnecessary to suppress my ovaries as they are a bit sleepy to start with so this protocol is much more suited to me. We're chucking everything at it so going straight in with maximum stims, that should [hopefully] wake the lazy bastards up!!

[Northey]

scarlett, euro also had a hideous reaction to the drugs. Just awful.

Pre-menopause? Do you mind me asking how old you are?

[ScarlettInSpace]

I've spoken to euro on here about it, I think we were both relieved to find someone else that had a similar experience

I'm 36, I was 35 then. That's why I think they're talking out if their arseholes the surgeon said he thought maybe the blood supply had been damaged when I had the op to remove the tube but the IVF response disproves that theory

My FSH was 12 and my AMH 4.22, not great but not bloody pre menopausal either, honestly I think they are all such bloody Doom Merchants!

[Nokkie73]

Blimey Scarlett. Seriously ? You poor thing...there was me whining like a massive baby about having hot flushes and having to take my bloody jumper in and off a few times. I feel such a fraud now.

Am sending your follies a VERY stern look and have a loud speaker in hand, just so they get the message.

Noks x

[ScarlettInSpace]

Haha noks don't feel guilty, I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

[Sharonbenn]

Fairy no probs I found you in the end. I am still getting used to how it all works and when I found this thread I was on the actual site and looked under conception but now I'm on the app and the threads seemed to be listed under topics of the day. There are some random topics today out there today!

It's reassuring to talk about it all. Its hard in RL cause apart from one dear friend they all got pg easily 2 on their honeymoons. I had 10 follies on my initial scan which apparently was 'good for my age' there's that phrase again. I haven't had the FSH done but my AMH was also GFMA (see above!) apparently. I might be 42 but I'm not writing off what's going on in there just yet.

Enjoy your sunday evenings ladies. I'm about to put the sausage and mash on!

[EuroShaggleton]

I tested at 7 and 8dpEC and got faint lines from the trigger shot (almost non-existent at 8 days) so I knew when I tested a few days later it would be a real result.

Scarlett best of luck for the start of your new cycle. I'm sure it'll be a good one, avoiding the evil downregging. It took me 6 months to lose the 9 pounds I piled on during and after the cycle. I'm sure it temporarily fucked up my thyroid (when it was tested at a medical 4 months after the cycle it was right on the bottom edge of normal). I've never struggled with my weight and it was horrible. I was eating tiny amounts and putting on 2-3 pounds a week! Of course now, all being well, I will be the size of a cow in a few months!

Nokkie downregging is not easy for most people even if you don't have the extreme reactions Scarlett and I did, so be kind to yourself while you are doing it (am v jealous of that glass of red - if I go out for food and my companion has a glass, I am picking up and taking long inhales of the scent at the moment ).

[chocoloco1]

Evening ladies, my you've been chatty today! Feeling a onesie evening coming on due to how tight my jeans feel at the mo and trying to convince myself that it's bloating due to stims, although unlikely with probably only 2 follicles more likely to be from the litre of milk I've been forcing down

euro and scarlett your down reg experiences sound horrendous, I only had a short experience of it on my 1st cycle, but then my body didn't respond to it.

Noks it does seem to be a bit of a guessing game with consultants, I agree. Am on max stims again for 2nd cycle after getting 3 eggs last time. Amh 0.23 and was given a 5% chance of success. Who knows! Off to do injection, hopefully last one before trigger tomorrow night.

Any last minute tips for getting follicles to grow, grow, grow before scan tomorrow?

[Northey]

Drink water and eat protein, as far as I can make out. How many days of stimming have you done so far?

[chocoloco1]

It's my day 13 scan tomorrow. Have been eating protein like there's no tomorrow and using a hot water bottle loads. Are you feeling strong-willed about not testing tomorrow?

[HontyTont]

There you all are...I was worried I wouldn't be able to find you!

Well I am currently stranded at my parents after attempting to leave at 6 switching on the engine to be told by the on board computer that I had a puncture! After closer inspection we found a nail in the tyre...don't have a spare cos these clever car companies only put mending kits in the boot nowadays and of course if the puncture is in the wrong place the mending kit is useless....genius! So now waiting for a recovery vehicle to take us and the car home....what a fun journey that will be! So much for keeping my stress levels low!

Off to have my full blood count and progesterone checked tomorrow....as well sorting a new tyre

I have also been squeezing my boobs....not for pleasure alas....they were a little tender up until a day ago but today they feel fine....trying not to read too much into anything

Am also weakly leggings/jogging bottoms anything lose fitting feels comfortable...cant face jeans due to the bruises my tummy from the fragmin

As for the 2ww....north what were you thinking? Having said that at least you know now the trigger has gone and you can be sure your bfp is all baby

I am totally not even entertaining the idea of early testing....my resolve is strong so far and I'm going to aim to keep it that way! I have NO tests in the house! It's way early for me anyway, today is only 5dpt...and my OTD isn't until the 6th. Can't wait for Thursday to get me out of here to NY to distract me

[Northey]

I have lost all my "symptoms" too, hont. I remember euro waking up one morning though and feeling completely unpregnant. So I am calming myself with that.

:( at the fragmin bruises. Ow.

[HontyTont]

The talk of red wine is making me thirsty!

Good luck for scans tomorrow ladies x

[HontyTont]

north hang in there lovely....i just think symptoms are so different for every woman whether preggers by IVF or 'naturally'... So we will just have to wait until DDay, aka OTD!

Double at fragmin tonight especially as I like to sych myself up for them but today I will literally get dropped off by the recovery vehicle and have to take the plunge before diving into bed so I can get up in the morning

[vallinnapod]

lost you all for a while.

Had ET last Weds...DS managed to be diagnosed with chickenpox the day before . I have felt fluey since so convinced I have scuppered everything.

When can I feasibly test stupidly early? It was a 5 day blast. OTD Friday...I think. My clinic were wonderfully vague "Oh 14 days" "But it is a 5 day blast" "Ok then, 10 days" "9?" "Yeah OK"...feel I may have talked them in to that

Any way, my lining wasn't fab (6.5mm) but my little brrr baby (chose just to defrost 1) was a star. Defrosted 90-100% intact and had started to divide away again.

Been lugging DS around and general unable to relax like last time so worried I may have not given it it's best chance.

Bit glass half empty.