TTC #2 and turning into a nut job!

[gemmeg]

Ladies, bring me back down to Earth before it's too late! I'm TTC #2 and its only the 2nd cycle and I'm already doing my own head in not to mention my OH.....we're not the kind of couple to have regular sex when not TTC (much to my disappointment ) so it's a real effort for DS to, erm, pull his finger out as it were and DTD every other day. With DS1 I had no idea about CM and OPKs and just used an ovulation calendar for timing but this time round I'm in danger of falling into the OPK trap! I'm aware of my constant whittling and DH even said that he hopes I get pregnant this month so he doesn't have to listen to me begging for him to do it just one more time! Anyone in the same boat?

Thanks for tips about opk. Have ordered the Home Health ones. Af came today! Just shows I'm ov-ing later than I thought too- I think all those symptoms were ov symptoms! tiny ... I think keeping busy is the only way, but it didn't always work for me

Ladies I think I'm out this cycle I have had back ache for the past 2 days and today I have loads of cm (white ish colour) what does this mean?? I only got a positive OPK last Friday so can only be 6dpo at most.

I have been worried about my luteal phase (not sure if spelling) and don't need lengthen that on top general stress of ttc!!

Feeling a bit down I know it's not over until AF appears but I hate not knowing what's going on with my body - what the hell is with the masses of cm!! Xx

Sorry to hear you're feeling down mummy. As you said it's not over til the wicked witch arrives. It's so hard to tell which symptoms could mean pg and which are just pre-menstrual, isn't it? There are so many "symptoms" I've noticed in my body in the past month that I never realised occurred before I started looking for them. Last month I had sore nipples [which I NEVER had before] and also had loads of milky cm right before AF started. I took these as pg signs but along came AF. I know it's hard when all you want is any sign of pg but I think it does us nut jobs no good to analyse every little symptom. As I said in a post way back on this thread "you may or may not have some or any symptoms whether pg or not"..... Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

When is the absolute earliest you can POAS?

Not sure with the first response tests but with normal cheapy ones it's usually 1st day of missed AF. If you do it before hand you may get a false result (i.e it comes up + but then AF arrives or comes up neg even though you're pg as there isn't enough hormone). Depends if you want to risk it.

First response ones are supposed to be up to 7 days before AF due. But I'm sceptical!! I wouldn't do it until 2 days before really without expecting a neg. IIRC though, you'll never get a false positive, just a false negative.

No af yet but still paos -ve... Sore boobs, cm and tender tho

Am feeling very vommy last night and today and in hopefully equal measures.

FX mortified & coffee when are you due to test? Hoping for a bfp from someone soon to really get the ball rolling

Well we're def out for March as we didn't DTD at all and I'm pretty sure it's necessary to get pg . I've told DH he's got to do double shifts next month to make up for it. On the plus side, at least I now know I ov a lot later than I thought thanks to OPKs and can feel more confident we'll get the timing right next month. Just hoping AF doesn't show until 3rd April which would give me an LP of 10 days. FX to all those POAS v.soon!!

Gemmeg, I share your confidence with the OPK's as I too seem to have been ov slightly later than I initially thought. Personally I like to feel I have some degree of control over situations because then I can take action on them. Shame you didn't dtd, but just try to think it wasn't meant to be this time.

My af due tommorow I think, am all over the place with nerves, no cramps this time, just sore boobs. Hate this bit.

Still no af despite being due on Fri. Sore boobs and bloated and bfn tho....

Going a bit mad I think. Af due today, feels like going to start any minute. Couldn't sleep last night for thinking about it, wish it would just hurry up if it's going to, can't stand the wondering.

Same tiny. Mine was due on Fri and still no af

Coffee - if I am late and getting bfn's I think I've miscalculated when I 'v ov.

Can't stand the waiting. I got a +OPK two week's past on Saturday, which means I prob would have ov on the Monday at the latest, so thought af should be here by now given that's two full weeks today. Think I may have a 16 day luteal phase though, just to make the agonising wait even longer. To test or not to test, that is the question.

I'm normally bang on 28 day cycle still thus is very odd for me but perhaps my body is still getting back to normal after contraception. Don't feel premenstrual another tho....weird

Coffee - maybe the hormone levels aren't sufficient to show up on a pg test and you're getting a false negative? I would try again in a couple of days if your cycle is usually very regular. Mine isn't so everything is a totally unknown quantity, incredibly frustrating - I'm now at 38 days. Thinking I'm probably due tommorow now if I only ov on Monday 2 weeks ago, going by a 16 day luteal phase.

Just checking in to see how everyone is doing. How come our normally regular cycles are going tits up as soon as we ttc???

Good luck tiny and coffee

I'll be starting on the OPK's this week. I should in theory ov at the end of this week, early next week (while me and dh are staying at my parents!) so I'm actually hoping I do OV a bit later. On the other hand I have a hen weekend to go to mid April and so that's when AF would be due.... I don't want to miss out on drinking sangria and Archers and lemonde and reliving my youth

Hello, haven't been on this thread for a wee while. Hope everyone is OK!
I'm patiently waiting on AF fecking off so we can get down to business for cycle 2. I've been a little bit down in the dumps about not conceiving 1st cycle (I know it was a very small chance though!) but have picked myself up and hope April is our month. Delighted to know that this cycle was only 30 days and not 36 like last time. One of my best friends is about to give birth any day now so that is helping distract me in a funny way!
DS is also being wonderfully behaved and very cute so he puts me in good form.

Plan of action is to start OPKs at the end of the and start dtd every day from Sat/Sun (ov should be around 8th april).

My AF arrived this morning - first one since miscarriage and I am gutted - I thought we might have managed to get a BFP before my first period - feels like I am reliving the miscarriage I don't know what else to do - we dtd every other day and the for 3 days when I got my OPK - I am only 8-10 DPO which means I have a short LP - does anyone know whether its possible to fall pregnant with a short luteal phase? X

Sorry to hear that mummy....i think you need an LP of at least 10 days to conceive although I have read stories of women achieving it with less but I think these are exceptions to the rule. I too believe I have a short LP so I'm going to start taking Angus Castus on the first day of my next AF and stop taking it when I ov. I'm also going to take vitamin b6 to lengthen it. I've heard really good reviews of Agnus Castus so I've bought some from Holland and Barrett. How long ago was your mc?

Sorry to hear AF arrived mummy! I'm sure it's very hard for you. I was very much like you after my mc and was determined to fall pregnant straight away. Don't judge your cycle too much this time though. It is known as the WTF cycle since it seems to have a. mind of its own. On the plus side, now that you've got your first AF it will be easier to date future pregnancies, which doesn't mean much now, but could save you an unnecessary induction or cs at the end of the pregnancy if they got the dates wrong (I'm convinced they did with me).

Mummy, sorry to hear you feel like you're reliving the mc with af, that must be awful for you. Perhaps your body just needs a little time to rebalance itself and ensure you are in the best condition you can be for pg.

I have opposite problem of long lp. Was expecting af yesterday based on 14 days lp, but looked back at my diary and looks more like I have a 16 day lp. So not only do I ov really late (day 24 this time), but I then have more than a 2ww after ov. We're looking at a 40 day cycle this time and its driving me CRAZY as ttc is taking so much longer than it would if I had a 'normal' length cycle. Af due tommorow. I'm also going to try Vitex Agnus Castus next cycle.

Thanks ladies- Gemmeg, my miscarraige was 15th February and my cycles are roughly 6 weeks / 40ish days, so I was due this weekend but AF has come a few days early. I havent had any pmt, stomach cramps or massive headache (which I normally get) - the only thing I have had is backache for the past few days plus since it started this morning it has been super light (I have a pad on but there is only the tinest amount on there) and only a brown blood (sorry if thats tmi). Normally becuase i have endometreosis my periods are really heavy - any ideas??? x

Mummy, don't want to get your hopes up but with my first pg I had a very small amount of blood a few days early and it turned out it was implantation bleeding. Have you POAS?