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OI! Homophobes! Over here!

682 replies

ooojimaflip · 10/12/2009 17:23

I'm genuinly interested in why you object to homosexuality, and everytime I ask on the other thread it gets lost in the general hubbub.

So - name change if you want, but please tell me what your objections are?

If it's because it's not natural or against biology, please expand your answer to include why you care about that.

Show your working for extra credit.

n.b. Don't bother if it's a religous justification, you'll need to find someone who believes in that kind of stuff to debate with as I'll just dismiss that out of hand. If you are a homopohbic religous person with a secular objection then please go ahead.

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hollybrainfestivepants · 11/12/2009 21:13

dp, lenin has told you you've insulted her so there's no point in you saying otherwise.

You are not taking in what is being said by the person you've insulted. Think about it.

FlamingFedUp · 11/12/2009 21:15

daftpunk - don't feel bad about it. Why a lesbian would come on this thread (calling homophobes to express their objections to it) and NOT expect to feel insulted I don't know .

cory · 11/12/2009 21:17

Might I draw your attention to our closest relative among the animals? Randy little critters, they are- and not, I fear, exclusively straight. And they do lesbian genital rubbing (though no dildos, it would seem).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

What would God make of these unnatural creatures? Oh hang on- He created them.

hollybrainfestivepants · 11/12/2009 21:17

so that's ok then flaming?!

lowenergylightbulb · 11/12/2009 21:18

So, if there was a thread about racism should 'darkies' expect to feel insulted

You have ishoos FFU. As does DP.

LeninGrotto · 11/12/2009 21:18

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

daftpunk · 11/12/2009 21:19

y'know this is why i'd never be a lesbian...

i'd spend all my time buying flowers....

lenin...i am so genuinely sorry if i have hurt you....

i have re-read your post and can tell you have had enough...

i'll miss you....all i can say

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:19

oh i just love the bonobo monkeys!!! DP and i used to be randy little critters - in life before babies!! and would liken ourselves to them!! They will fuck anything that sits still long enough

Oh so flaming - would it be OK for me to start a racist thread then and call people niggers and pakis then and then be all if a black person or asian came on and got insulted - FFS!! (sorry about the use of those words btw, just making a point) Do you EVER think before you post?

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:22

nice of you to apologise DP, however do you MEAN it?? Seriously, if you can see that you have really hurt someones feelings, surely that might give you some cause to rethink your very closeted views?? You know i like you, but i really don't like it when you post things that are hurtful. Not sure why you do that tbh.

hollybrainfestivepants · 11/12/2009 21:22

this thread gets more and more surreal - so you pick and choose which gay people to insult then dp?

LeninGrotto · 11/12/2009 21:22

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ooojimaflip · 11/12/2009 21:24

Flaming - sorry missed your post from before. What I haven't seen from you (unless I've missed it) is an explantaion of why what is natural/unnatural should change anyones behaviour. As you are expressedly not religous I would be particularly interested to hear your views on this,

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pooexplosionsonthedustyroad · 11/12/2009 21:28

You never answered my question Flamin; why did you cowardly name change if you are so sure you are right? Is it because you are actually rather ashamed of yourself and your views and know how abhorrent they are? If not, why hide?

onagar · 11/12/2009 21:28

Has anyone pointed out that being homosexual doesn't have to mean you have anal sex. It might well lead to that, but I doubt the homophobes would feel any happier about a homosexual man who preferred oral sex.

Also they seem to have forgotten about Lesbians who probably don't have anal sex very often.

Also this whole thing about the way some homosexuals conduct the dating thing misses a point as it has to be much more difficult for gay people.

As a man I could go to any pub and chat to a woman. It's a pretty safe bet that our gender preference would match up and if I buy her a couple of drinks she has an idea what I might be after. If not or if she doesn't fancy me she can walk away. If I were homosexual and chatted to a man that would be trickier wouldn't it. So the way it's done can't be quite the same.

I think there's another factor too. This is just my theory, but when I was young I was willing (desperate ) to have sex with any woman who'd have me. Any time and anywhere. Most young men are like that, but don't get to hop from bed to bed (I certainly didn't) because most young girls were after something a little more stable (or at least to talk a bit first)

So if I were a young gay man and wanting to have sex every 20 minutes and in a gay bar full of other young men who felt the same... I'd have probably got in the Guinness book of records for quantity if not quality.

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:28

lenin, sorry, i dont know how to link - but the thread has your name in it!! lol

poo - could you link for me perhaps??

pooexplosionsonthedustyroad · 11/12/2009 21:33

no prob ijust....
here

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:36

thanks x

MsDoctor · 11/12/2009 21:37

I was going to return and respond to this thread but Flamingfedup has got be either a homosexual and suppressed and ashamed or over seventy. I cannot believe anyone would be so naive and pointless. None of her arguments stand up to any reason, just wrong and not natural, arguing that the ONLY point of sex is to procreate (must tell DH next time he wants to 'talk to the canoe driver' that he really shouldn't because it's not natural and no babies will come)have no place in an intelligent conversation or debate. This woman is too backward in her views to engage with.

FFU, you should feel embarrassed by your own ignorance and shame.

MsDoctor · 11/12/2009 21:40

Gosh, I hope that reads as if Flame has such strong feelings toward homosexuality that if she accepts it she fears her true self will reveal, and the internal struggle with oneself is usually apparent in exaggerated feelings of fear and loathing.

Too much wine to post really.

Sugarberry · 11/12/2009 21:41

This is pointless. As it is, some humans are poorly distinguished from the rest of the animal kingdom.

FlamingFedUp · 11/12/2009 21:45

MsDoctor - what shite you spout .

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:49

just give up flaming, its YOU who has spouted shit through the whole thread? Are you the OP?? FFS, how attentin seeking can one get!!

FlamingFedUp · 11/12/2009 21:53

Ijustwanttoask - are you joking? You have posted more than me on this thread! I am surely about to respond to posts directed at me and shall do so. Grow up.

ijustwanttoaskaquestion · 11/12/2009 21:55

oh, sorry, got confused with your other awful thread

FlamingFedUp · 11/12/2009 22:02

Actually you know what. I was not being cowardly in changing my name, just thought I might want to continue posting on MN on other threads without being continually castigated as a evil 'homophobe'. Obviously the freedom is express your true beliefs is confined only to those whose beliefs match everyone elses .

As it is I realise I don't want to continue conversing with people who are up their own arses and believe they and only they are right, and demonise people who have their own minds and don't follow the popular views.

So here goes. I am BigMomma3. You will see from my posts what kind of a person I am. I am a terrible one. Off to the less educated refines of NetMums goes I where I belong.

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