Jonathan Ross

[Undahpressurah]

Is he next?

thought this could be a good place to discuss his ‘jokes’ about a 15 year old going home with Walliams. He clearly knew far more about Brand and Walliams than he let on.

Repulsive.

Jonathan Ross has made a statement now. I think it is interesting who isn’t commenting.
Incidentally Mark Bonner posted up
a speech made by Ashley Judd. Not all men are violent, but all men are silent

And a lot of women

Not true.

Maybe not common, but certainly not unheard of. My now best friend (didn't know her until her late 20s and she's now 56) got together with a 24-yr old man when she was 16. They were together for four years, lived together for three, and to this day she does not feel she was groomed, everyone knew about it, no one made any negative comments, everyone thought he was a good guy. I've asked her about it several times but she always says she was not groomed. I've said "can you not see why some people would disagree with you or that it was inappropriate?" and she says "That's on them. My experience is my experience and I never and still don't regard it as being groomed. I was very independent and knew my own mind"

Loved Aisling for this.

Slimy Ross asked a question intending to embarrass her and she totally turned the joke on him " I'm still talking" 😂She was ready for him and cool as a cucumber.

I used to think Ross was witty, I enjoyed his radio shows until the abuse of Andrew Sachs.

He's an intelligent man but there's a sexist unpleasant tone underneath that many comedians have when they push the line: Frank Skinner, David Baddiel, Chris Evans etc.

Absolutely

Ross has had a bullying side to his humour that feels odd when it comes out because often he has seemed more discerning than that, more humane. It comes out at awards ceremonies, perhaps because he feels he has to keep his comic peers in line, be a bit brutal, to be top dog. Rod Hull presented an award once, I think they were peeved that he turned up without Emu, which is his main thing, and as Hull was returning to his seat, Ross quipped something like how he reminded him of the clock on Worthing Pier or something, because that hadn't worked since 1977 either. A smart but cruel joke, a bit off.

He might pick on male guests - harping on at Alastair McCowan because he just didn't look like some of the person he impersonated, like David Beckham, Ross did have that dig to him, to stop him being Parky. Lee Mack was another recipient, you could see him getting exasperated and not enjoying it.

But if you were A-list it was a different story, of course.

Ross did go from having a Carry On Jim Dale persona to Carry On Sid James as he got older.

And Charlotte Church

This. They're utterly useless in the workplace and play the victim. Then they report people behind their back for perceived 'bullying' which is nothing of the kind but enough for the other person to get suspended indefinitely. Guilty until proven innocent.
The little babies just can't deal with life.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmwy9jl18840o

Of course he’s now defending himself vigorously, back peddling frantically and claiming he knew nothing about what was happening 😵‍💫🙄 Of course he’s ‘horrified’ 🙄
I’ve never understood why he has such a following, he strikes me as being a lizard, sly and manipulative.
Hopefully if he’s another slimy celebrity then he’s going to get found out as well.
i see that Noel Fielding’s popularity is slipping on Bake Off, according to the Telegraph. He’s another ‘personality’ that puzzles me.

This is a really spiteful characterisation of young people. Should the ones who are actually bullied keep quiet in case they're seen this way?

It’s great how he’s now saying ‘friendly terms’ to describe his relationships with these fucking perverts and convicted rapists. Quite distance isn’t it, ‘friendly terms’. Not a close relationship though. Not a ‘friendship’. I’m on ‘friendly terms’ with my evri driver.

Here’s an article from 2013 where Ross describes his relationship with Brand in rather different terms: https://metro.co.uk/2013/02/01/jonathan-ross-thanks-the-sachsgate-scandal-for-bringing-him-closer-to-russell-brand-on-the-jonathan-ross-show-3376642/amp/

Gaslighting cunt. Does he think we don’t remember these wankers all over the telly together what seemed like every single fucking week with their self aggrandising rubbish? You were friends, their abuse was just a big joke to you and you were prepared to tolerate it because it made you lots of money.

I am older. There is a certain kind of older person who thinks rape and sexual harassment isn't real. It's just women and sometimes men not standing up for themselves

So they really can't win. If they stand up for themselves they're "babies" but if they don't, they're to blame for being abused/bullied.

I wonder if posters whose main argument is “back in a day/back in my days X was normal” would ever understand how weird they sound

So if a script writer,likely less close go DW knew,then it was fairly well known in their circles? Doesn't help JR much

It wasnt that common and it did raise a few eyebrows at the time, she was known as a 'wild child'.The press had a bit of a field day with it. But then, she was legal and they are still together now.
What people are forgetting is JRs disgusting comments he left on Andrew Sachs answer phone alongside Brand about his granddaughter, he was just as bad, if not worse than RB in that incident, which makes him a bit of a ringleader in my opinion.

Agree. Sachsgate was awful and showed exactly who he was.

And he cannot claim he didn't know DW had a thing for preying on teenage girls when we can all see he is in a photo with DW who literally had his arm round one of the girls in question

I nearly walked out of a DB comedy show once. The only reason I didn't was because I was right in the middle of a row. But I wasn't the only woman sat there in stony silence.

I stayed on a caravan park years ago and the 7pm entertainment was the Chuckle Brothers. The place was full of children. Their act was disgusting and over the line and I walked out with my children. The rest of the audience were laughing whilst having their own children sitting on their laps. Not saying The Chuckle Brothers ever did anything

Chris Evans / Billie Piper

No. It’s absolutely not. It is my and many others experience in the work place.
what IS spiteful is the little darlings reporting their colleagues for anything and everything. This then forces Companies to investigate and the victim is suspended. They are ruining lives.
it is an inability to manage their working lives and manage themselves as an adult.

I’m not the first to mention it on here, but will re-iterate that he actually ‘joked’ about Walliams’ proclivity for underage girls when hosting the 2004 British Comedy Awards -

”The comedy awards is 15 years old – 15 years old! And like most 15-year-olds, it's drunk, it's unpredictable, and it's probably going home with David Walliams."

I really don’t think he’d have made such a comment had it not been an ‘in’ joke in their circles, based known behaviour.