Jonathan Ross

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Is he next?

thought this could be a good place to discuss his ‘jokes’ about a 15 year old going home with Walliams. He clearly knew far more about Brand and Walliams than he let on.

Repulsive.

I seem to have successfully worked for many years without anyone reporting me for anything...

Lucy Beaumont’s interview was amazing. She needs everybody’s support on social media to make sure she is not cancelled by those in the industry for being a ‘trouble maker’. She said clearly that she didn’t know whether allegations were true or not, and she hadn’t personally seen anything, but she knew she had a duty to report only there was no where for her to report properly and she went to the Guardian. What a woman! Wonder what her ex husband thought of this?

Again you are totally misreading the situation - possibly deliberately! Aisling Bea was being primed by JR's question to deliver a pre- prepared bit of comedy ( apparently actually part of her stage act apparently). The still talking line was said to Joe Marler not JR. Do you have these comprehension difficulties in real life?

I’m old enough to remember this and her age raised eyebrows even at that time.

Agree. If there were more people like Lucy these men wouldn't get near a TV programme

His interview with Nicole Kidman was also vile.

That’s great! And neither have I!
What industry are you in?

Yes, she did really well. And it just highlights the complete lack of safeguarding that there wasn't even a clear way of raising her concerns. So much of what has gone on would have been avoided by having basic safeguards in place. Why on earth are young people going into people's dressing rooms? Our local amateur theatre company has very clear guidelines about who is allowed in what dressing room ie no children / young people in men's or women's and vice versa. That's just really basic. Similarly interactions with fans; celebs just shouldn't be following up with them, everything should go through their fan club, if support is to be offered eg work experience, then it's something their PA or someone in an official capacity should be sorting. All 'talent' should have this explained to them, it wouldn't be difficult to put them all through regular online training like the rest of us have to do. And as for model agencies passing on contact details, again, half this stuff completely avoidable. Of course Walliams is responsible for his behaviour but the complete lack of thought or direction around any of this is what made it so difficult to act and made young women think it was normal. Why on earth were the book publishers quietly preventing young women being alone with him instead of bringing in a clear code of conduct which he had to sign and then as soon as he broke it he could be dropped?

I know the answer is money but that's just not good enough. Proper safeguarding is what is needed. It's not perfect and these dodgy blokes will always keep trying to find a way but absolute clarity on what is unacceptable, how to prevent it, how to report it and what will happen when standards are broken is what would make the biggest difference.

Lucy Beaumont is absolutely right to be raising this.

Every studio, every tv company, every production company, every programme/series/film should have a safeguarding policy and procedure and trained designated safeguarding leads that collate and pass on all concerns to local authorities if children/teens/vulnerable adults are involved.

I'm amazed they don't - everywhere else that works with children, teens and vulnerable adults has a set of safeguarding protocols.

JR is clearly a verÿ bright man. That was obvious from Traitors. The idea he disnt know anything about anything is ridiculous. You dont survive as long as him in showbusibess unless you are wily and vlever and good at self protection.

Are you so rude and nasty in real life?? Perhaps I totally misread the situation but there is no need for such a nasty over the top response. Sad really that how you spend your life.

Let us not forget the evident joy on Ross's face when he banished Lucy Beamount in that show - was that because he knew she was anti his mate, Brand?

Okay, okay - but it does make you wonder what the celebs talked about over orange juice and croissants at the breakfast table; they all seem to exist in the same circles.

I agree. I don’t know how he can expect us to believe that the general public who are NOT in this inner circle are aware of this ‘open secret’ and yet he’s actually friends with these perverts and criminals and he’s like ‘I didn’t know! I’m innocent!!’.

like come the fuck onnnnnnn.

Fucking spot on!

There are more safeguarding policies and signposting with grass roots football teams than there are in the ‘entertainment’ industry

In the past there wasn't much safeguarding in football, but it was the abuse of younger men by older men. Not much excuse or pretext for young women to be around in terms of the dressing room.

Odd how Thames Valley Police advised Brand to leave Khan's property in 2014 but it never made the press; admirable even given most police forces' cosy relationship with the red top tabloids, you wouldn't get that with the Met. Or might it be they kept it quiet because Brand was a character?

Agree

JR knows his reputation is tainted by the company he keeps. The long article on the BBC website where he states his shock and horror at the behaviour of his ‘former’ pals RB and DW, saying he had no clue just emphasises how desperate he is to distance himself. He was a very popular entertainer, of course he was aware. They mixed in the same circles. It’s insulting to our intelligence that he’s professing his shock and outrage. People are judged by the company they keep. He would have been better to say nothing. Instead he protests too much me thinks.

Agree.
Saying he didn't know is insulting even the lowest of intelligence.

He is absolutely the company he so closely keeps.

How anyone watches him, is beyond me.

There is a group photo on the front of the Daily Mirror with Walliams with his arm around one of the teenagers and Ross and others are all sitting around.

Newspaper headlines: 'David Walliams accused' and 'Named & shamed' - BBC News

Agree. He must think we all came down in the last rainshower. Get off rhe stage, Jonathan, the game is up. He's boring on The Masked Singer. Go away Jonathan. We dont want you anymore.

Ross had a go at Lee Mack ? That's interesting if that's what you meant. Lee Mack is very clever and quick witted. Maybe Ross doesn't like to be upstaged.

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And why are you getting personal. Showing yourself up with your drivel.

The other 'celebrity' comedians knew - they made similar jokes about Walliams like Ross and Walliams loved the notoriety:

"Yeah, if she does well, if she gets through the selection process... is that the prize? You get a go on David Walliams?"

Hiding in plain sight: Crude David Walliams jokes made in public by top UK stars

I wouldn't quite say he 'had a go'. But this was a while back, before Mack was famous in his own right for Not Going Out and maybe WIL - so this is a long time. Ross was labouring the point that although Mack had been in many things - sketch shows, for instance - he couldn't quite remember him as being famous for anything. It was a sort of true, edgy observation - and the kind of thing that helped differentiate Ross from the cosy Aspel/Parky brand of questioning. But it seemed to me that Mack was just having to sit there and put up with it, being a C-list star (at the time) and having to use this outlet to promote himself.

Same when Daniel Craig was in contention for the Bond role, and somewhat derided for it, being no great looker at the time. 'I'm thinking... 'craggy',; joshed Ross to Craig, being interviewed for another gig, and Craig had this wan slightly forced smile. On an admittedly craggy face. Of course, once Craig had bagged the Bond role, it was all 'and I'm really pleased you got the role'.

Ross also rudely shut down Penelope Cruz when she was being long-winded on a story, saying 'Alright, you're being really boring now' and she was quite shocked. But tbf, I understand she was being a bit boring and back then, there was a bit of bite to social discourse. You saw it with the likes of Chris Evans, Graham Norton originally - he can still be a bit edgy, also Clive Anderson. It does run its course, however, because none of it is very happy or jolly, sometimes it comes from a dark place. And ultimately because of this folk want to switch gears and go 'happy' - almost One Show stuff. Unfortunately on the larger stage, folk then might fall for any drivel the likes of Boris and Trump peddle, it makes you feel good so it is good, it seems to me. It's easy to pick holes in Boris and Trump but they've got that thing going on where, if you do that, you're the 'nasty' and 'negative'.