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Undahpressurah · 10/11/2026 13:49

Is he next?

thought this could be a good place to discuss his ‘jokes’ about a 15 year old going home with Walliams. He clearly knew far more about Brand and Walliams than he let on.

Repulsive.

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ChocolateHobnobSmoothie · 11/11/2026 17:49

Puppylucky · 10/11/2026 23:50

Lovely that your mum met a nice friend but you do realise that there is absolutely nothing to your supposed story - just hints and whispers and misremembered comments. Not really worth a name change

Try to read between the lines and not take everything so literally.

A lot of famous people manage to erase records of their private affairs from the public record.

But sometimes something triggers the memory.

RaspberryCoffeePot · 11/11/2026 19:05

NewspaperTaxis · 11/11/2026 13:28

I wouldn't quite say he 'had a go'. But this was a while back, before Mack was famous in his own right for Not Going Out and maybe WIL - so this is a long time. Ross was labouring the point that although Mack had been in many things - sketch shows, for instance - he couldn't quite remember him as being famous for anything. It was a sort of true, edgy observation - and the kind of thing that helped differentiate Ross from the cosy Aspel/Parky brand of questioning. But it seemed to me that Mack was just having to sit there and put up with it, being a C-list star (at the time) and having to use this outlet to promote himself.

Same when Daniel Craig was in contention for the Bond role, and somewhat derided for it, being no great looker at the time. 'I'm thinking... 'craggy',; joshed Ross to Craig, being interviewed for another gig, and Craig had this wan slightly forced smile. On an admittedly craggy face. Of course, once Craig had bagged the Bond role, it was all 'and I'm really pleased you got the role'.

Ross also rudely shut down Penelope Cruz when she was being long-winded on a story, saying 'Alright, you're being really boring now' and she was quite shocked. But tbf, I understand she was being a bit boring and back then, there was a bit of bite to social discourse. You saw it with the likes of Chris Evans, Graham Norton originally - he can still be a bit edgy, also Clive Anderson. It does run its course, however, because none of it is very happy or jolly, sometimes it comes from a dark place. And ultimately because of this folk want to switch gears and go 'happy' - almost One Show stuff. Unfortunately on the larger stage, folk then might fall for any drivel the likes of Boris and Trump peddle, it makes you feel good so it is good, it seems to me. It's easy to pick holes in Boris and Trump but they've got that thing going on where, if you do that, you're the 'nasty' and 'negative'.

I've never watched him that much. He always seemed a bit too gobby for my taste. I'm now thinking, from everything I've read recently, that he's rather more egotistical and territorial than I thought.. Now comong out stronly to fefend himself " oh, I didnt know what they were really loke". Well, sorry Jonathan but nobody believes you. Of course you knew. You just didnt care.

newNannie2026 · 12/11/2026 08:00

Puppylucky · 10/11/2026 19:47

Sorry this "on my radar" comment that is becoming compulsory just makes me laugh! Is MN populated by a colony of bats?!

In todays world if i wanted to identify as bat i would be perfectly entitled to do so. 😂😂and tbh i agree with you

Puppylucky · 12/11/2026 09:38

ChocolateHobnobSmoothie · 11/11/2026 17:49

Try to read between the lines and not take everything so literally.

A lot of famous people manage to erase records of their private affairs from the public record.

But sometimes something triggers the memory.

Give me something to read between the lines about then! You describe it yourself as half remembered snippets and nods and winks. Also Jonathan Ross talked about someone who was clearly Kinnie on his radio show, lovingly referencing a lady who had been part of the family for years. Yet in your vague recollections Kinnie felt that something suspect had gone on and was strongly disapproving of HR. It just doesn't ring true sorry

ChocolateHobnobSmoothie · 12/11/2026 13:46

Puppylucky · 12/11/2026 09:38

Give me something to read between the lines about then! You describe it yourself as half remembered snippets and nods and winks. Also Jonathan Ross talked about someone who was clearly Kinnie on his radio show, lovingly referencing a lady who had been part of the family for years. Yet in your vague recollections Kinnie felt that something suspect had gone on and was strongly disapproving of HR. It just doesn't ring true sorry

There are injunctions in place so things cannot be said explicitly. I’m sure you understand.

I have made no claims against Jonathan Ross, you have interpreted my statement about Kinny’s care for Jane in the wrong way. A young (though precocious) girl catapulted into the heart of London celeb life, yes, Kinny would be a stable element in her life.

Celebrities have a lot of friends. Friends come and go, some quietly, others not. Reputation management is a thing, wholesome and cleansing, but memories remain.

I’m trying to trigger the memories of people who would have heard locally at the time, not those who are seeking gossip now. I believe some are on Mumsnet, and are now in a position to speak out.

EveryoneUsingOutro · 12/11/2026 14:19

Firesidechatter · 10/11/2026 13:57

I’m not sure you can make him guilty by association, and back when him and Jane got together, this age gap was common and not frowned on.

It was hardly the 1850’s for gods sake - plenty of people, me included, found it very creepy and gross when we heard about it!

EveryoneUsingOutro · 12/11/2026 14:20

ApplePumpkin · 10/11/2026 14:04

I have never understood why given he made those horrible calls to Andrew Sachs with Brand that he wasn't sacked by the BBC. How he is still working?
Those phone calls were pre-recorded and given the green light by BBC production staff. It beggars belief really.

The Andrew Sachs incident was truly vile. So upsetting for him. Apparently we all “couldn’t take a joke”.

LastChristmasI · 12/11/2026 14:22

EveryoneUsingOutro · 12/11/2026 14:19

It was hardly the 1850’s for gods sake - plenty of people, me included, found it very creepy and gross when we heard about it!

Agree! I am shocked how many people thought it was fine

Sweetandsours · 12/11/2026 14:25

I just don't get this whole 1980's bullshit that it was acceptable.
I was a 15 when Diana married Charles, we all thought he was a dirty old man creeping after a young innocent girl.
So did my parents and all my friends.
The word was "god love her" around me.

No way was it a fairytale stuff.
My background was ordinary MC.

No way would my parents or any of my friends parents have stood for a boyfriend more than 2 years absolute max.

My parents were in no way helicopter parents.
It was just known that only creeps want to go out with young girls.
No conversation, no warning.
It was just somehow communicated to us.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · 12/11/2026 14:31

Sweetandsours · 12/11/2026 14:25

I just don't get this whole 1980's bullshit that it was acceptable.
I was a 15 when Diana married Charles, we all thought he was a dirty old man creeping after a young innocent girl.
So did my parents and all my friends.
The word was "god love her" around me.

No way was it a fairytale stuff.
My background was ordinary MC.

No way would my parents or any of my friends parents have stood for a boyfriend more than 2 years absolute max.

My parents were in no way helicopter parents.
It was just known that only creeps want to go out with young girls.
No conversation, no warning.
It was just somehow communicated to us.

That's your experience. Fine. Many others had a different experience. We don't say your lived experience was "bullshit" so why is our lived experience "bullshit"?

Firesidechatter · 12/11/2026 15:02

Sweetandsours · 12/11/2026 14:25

I just don't get this whole 1980's bullshit that it was acceptable.
I was a 15 when Diana married Charles, we all thought he was a dirty old man creeping after a young innocent girl.
So did my parents and all my friends.
The word was "god love her" around me.

No way was it a fairytale stuff.
My background was ordinary MC.

No way would my parents or any of my friends parents have stood for a boyfriend more than 2 years absolute max.

My parents were in no way helicopter parents.
It was just known that only creeps want to go out with young girls.
No conversation, no warning.
It was just somehow communicated to us.

That wasn’t my experience either, I thought most people knew it was a marriage of convenience or romantisiced it, so am surprised at your view, maybe as you were onky 15 your family was giving you a message,

CatesandAle · 12/11/2026 15:21

HappiestSleeping · 10/11/2026 14:08

Aisling was totally brilliant in how she handled this. Shame she had to, but what a total win for her.

That Aisling Bea clip is weird to me, I’ve seen it pop up a few times on Instagram but I didn’t see the show itself so I’m not sure what the wider context was. I’ve seen comments saying he also asked the men what they would do on OnlyFans, still not a great question but I do think it’s a bit different if he asked all of them. I also don’t understand the faces he and the big beardy bloke make while Aisling is speaking. They’re clearly trying to do their own comedy ‘bit’, but I don’t understand what the joke is supposed to be - that they’re turned on and trying to hide it/think about something else? Or just that they’re uncomfortable she’s so confident and explicit? Is it clear that she was actually offended and batting back against something she felt was sexist, or was she just doing a ‘bit’ of her own? I know this clip always gets framed on Instagram as ‘you go girl taking down those sexist men’, but it’s not totally clear to me if that was what was actually going on - can anyone who saw the whole conversation comment?

HappiestSleeping · 12/11/2026 15:45

CatesandAle · 12/11/2026 15:21

That Aisling Bea clip is weird to me, I’ve seen it pop up a few times on Instagram but I didn’t see the show itself so I’m not sure what the wider context was. I’ve seen comments saying he also asked the men what they would do on OnlyFans, still not a great question but I do think it’s a bit different if he asked all of them. I also don’t understand the faces he and the big beardy bloke make while Aisling is speaking. They’re clearly trying to do their own comedy ‘bit’, but I don’t understand what the joke is supposed to be - that they’re turned on and trying to hide it/think about something else? Or just that they’re uncomfortable she’s so confident and explicit? Is it clear that she was actually offended and batting back against something she felt was sexist, or was she just doing a ‘bit’ of her own? I know this clip always gets framed on Instagram as ‘you go girl taking down those sexist men’, but it’s not totally clear to me if that was what was actually going on - can anyone who saw the whole conversation comment?

Yes, I did. I think it was Jonathan Ross pushing boundaries in the way he is known to do. She shut him down. I think the other two were caught up in it and genuinely did not know how to react.

The problem with his type of 'edgy' humour is that it gets old quick, and it has to be pushed further and further in order to still be considered edgy. IMHO he stopped being funny over 20 years ago.

My personal view is that Aisling knew it wouldn't stop there, and that his veiled attempt to include everyone so it didn't look targeted would likely mean more would follow and that it would get more targeted.

Boomer55 · 12/11/2026 15:50

I don’t like JR, but it’s not him being named (on the net), a the next injunction figure to be exposed.🙄

CatesandAle · 12/11/2026 16:23

HappiestSleeping · 12/11/2026 15:45

Yes, I did. I think it was Jonathan Ross pushing boundaries in the way he is known to do. She shut him down. I think the other two were caught up in it and genuinely did not know how to react.

The problem with his type of 'edgy' humour is that it gets old quick, and it has to be pushed further and further in order to still be considered edgy. IMHO he stopped being funny over 20 years ago.

My personal view is that Aisling knew it wouldn't stop there, and that his veiled attempt to include everyone so it didn't look targeted would likely mean more would follow and that it would get more targeted.

Thanks for the explanation!

Terrribletwos · 12/11/2026 16:29

HappiestSleeping · 12/11/2026 15:45

Yes, I did. I think it was Jonathan Ross pushing boundaries in the way he is known to do. She shut him down. I think the other two were caught up in it and genuinely did not know how to react.

The problem with his type of 'edgy' humour is that it gets old quick, and it has to be pushed further and further in order to still be considered edgy. IMHO he stopped being funny over 20 years ago.

My personal view is that Aisling knew it wouldn't stop there, and that his veiled attempt to include everyone so it didn't look targeted would likely mean more would follow and that it would get more targeted.

Wasn't it a scripted thing ?

Sewingbeedamned · 12/11/2026 16:35

Sweetandsours · 12/11/2026 14:25

I just don't get this whole 1980's bullshit that it was acceptable.
I was a 15 when Diana married Charles, we all thought he was a dirty old man creeping after a young innocent girl.
So did my parents and all my friends.
The word was "god love her" around me.

No way was it a fairytale stuff.
My background was ordinary MC.

No way would my parents or any of my friends parents have stood for a boyfriend more than 2 years absolute max.

My parents were in no way helicopter parents.
It was just known that only creeps want to go out with young girls.
No conversation, no warning.
It was just somehow communicated to us.

Agree although someone upthread aggressively disagreed when I pointed this out. To be fair to old Charlie though, I think it was clear he had to marry someone young so there was no history, rather than his preference. O think it’s obvious that the age gap was part of the problem, although there were many. It was more institutional and societal creepiness.

HappiestSleeping · 12/11/2026 16:36

Terrribletwos · 12/11/2026 16:29

Wasn't it a scripted thing ?

No, I don't think so. Some of his stuff is scripted, but you can't have a completely scripted chat show. It wouldn't work. I think he has a framework and then ad-libs.

Terrribletwos · 12/11/2026 16:39

No I mean the Aisling Bea response
Didn't someone say upthread it was part of her stand up routine?

Puppylucky · 12/11/2026 17:05

CatesandAle · 12/11/2026 16:23

Thanks for the explanation!

Which is wrong. It's already been explained multiple times that the question was a tee-up for Aisling Bea to do a bit from her stand up show. The expressions of the men were supposed to represent hang dog awkwardness as part of the joke. Honestly it's no wonder comedy is dying on its arse if this is the level of interpretation!

Terrribletwos · 12/11/2026 17:29

So Aisling Bee did do that as part of her stand up on the show?

Puppylucky · 12/11/2026 17:34

She apparently did a bit from her stand up show - which was the blancmange routine that has caused all this fuss - as part of the chat. Jonathan Ross is paid (particularly by ITV who are much less indulgent of him than the Beeb were) to make guests look good and have some light chat so the conversation is directed towards the bits of business the guests want to do. It's not a real conversation (see also Graham Norton)

BeLemonMoose · 12/11/2026 17:40

Sewingbeedamned · 12/11/2026 16:35

Agree although someone upthread aggressively disagreed when I pointed this out. To be fair to old Charlie though, I think it was clear he had to marry someone young so there was no history, rather than his preference. O think it’s obvious that the age gap was part of the problem, although there were many. It was more institutional and societal creepiness.

I remember when that was explained in the media that he had to marry a virgin. I am about Diana's age if she was still alive obviously. And I and my friends were totally taken back at the idea Charles had to marry a virgin. That requirement must have come from Queen Elizabeth and Philip, because it was certainly not expected of young women by that stage

ffoffpls · 12/11/2026 17:58

@BeLemonMoose I think it was more to do with external royal conventions and pressure not just from the Queen & Philip - first ensuring the Royal blood line was genuine. Charles & Di got married in 1981 and DNA testing didn't exist until about 1985/6 so it wasn't something that could be identified. second avoiding any scandal from previous partners selling stories to the News of the World. This was well before the law of privacy developed and celeb injunctions.

Sewingbeedamned · 12/11/2026 18:34

ffoffpls · 12/11/2026 17:58

@BeLemonMoose I think it was more to do with external royal conventions and pressure not just from the Queen & Philip - first ensuring the Royal blood line was genuine. Charles & Di got married in 1981 and DNA testing didn't exist until about 1985/6 so it wasn't something that could be identified. second avoiding any scandal from previous partners selling stories to the News of the World. This was well before the law of privacy developed and celeb injunctions.

Yes, my take was it was all about possible stories from the past coming up and embarrassing the RF. And let's be honest, the press would have had a field day with any "dirt".

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