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To think the French students are out of control?

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ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 19:53

Demonstrating against large class sizes is one thing.

Smashing up shop windows and looting goods is another.

Idiots. They are 14/15 and when they are arrested the French authorities will come down on them and their criminal records will stay with them forever. Where are the parents in all of this?

Woukd this happen in the UK?

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blankcanvas3 · Today 19:55

I do have to admire the French’s passion when it comes to anything they aren’t happy with though. Violence is never the answer, but they simply don’t take things lying down. We sit complaining about our ever increasing prices, our ever decreasing quality of public services but don’t do anything about it. Part of me just thinks, viva la revolucion. At least they’re doing something about it.

NapoleonBonaparte · Today 19:57

There's no money left what do they expect this government to do?

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · Today 19:59

“Woukd this happen in the UK?”

Smashing up shops and looting? Well, yes…

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 19:59

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Montpellier

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leperol · Today 20:01

I'd guess that the student protests have been infiltrated by other forces intent on creating mayhem. This will either fizzle out or there will be baton charges, tear gas and water cannon, if that hasn't happened already.

If anyone is killed and I hope not, well you can guess what will happen then.

HenriettaHippopotamus · Today 20:01

I think it’s a cultural difference as they do love a riot but I don’t like it. It’s seems like there could be better ways. Like sit ins or blocking roads or something, not setting fires. I also don’t understand how causing all this damage is going to free up money and not mean less due to repair costs.

JHound · Today 20:01

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 19:53

Demonstrating against large class sizes is one thing.

Smashing up shop windows and looting goods is another.

Idiots. They are 14/15 and when they are arrested the French authorities will come down on them and their criminal records will stay with them forever. Where are the parents in all of this?

Woukd this happen in the UK?

They’re French. This is France. Taking to the streets is kinda their thing.

Gwenhwyfar · Today 20:02

leperol · Today 20:01

I'd guess that the student protests have been infiltrated by other forces intent on creating mayhem. This will either fizzle out or there will be baton charges, tear gas and water cannon, if that hasn't happened already.

If anyone is killed and I hope not, well you can guess what will happen then.

Exactly this.
There are two things:

  1. student protests, or actually schoolchildren protests
  2. mindless vandalism that has nothing to do with it and not the same people.
itto · Today 20:05

I’m more concerned that another child lost his hand today because the police is throwing dispersion grenades banned in other European countries, but maybe that’s just me not liking kids being mutilated.

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:09

itto · Today 20:05

I’m more concerned that another child lost his hand today because the police is throwing dispersion grenades banned in other European countries, but maybe that’s just me not liking kids being mutilated.

I agree.

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Charley50 · Today 20:26

Limoges City Hall, a beautiful building over one hundred years old, has been burnt down by these ‘students.’ High-end shops have been destroyed and looted. Emergency services are being attacked. Where does justified protest end and violence and terror begin?

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:31

FFS.

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ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:33

Explain the logic to me. They are complaining that there aren’t enough resources so they burn everything to the ground which requires capital to replace it which means even less resources for them.

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GreenEyesMillennial · Today 20:33

media is not reporting on some peaceful walks that happened today etc. only showing a few ones where some little sh*t joined to destroy things

TheHouseonHauntedHill · Today 20:33

Charley50 · Today 20:26

Limoges City Hall, a beautiful building over one hundred years old, has been burnt down by these ‘students.’ High-end shops have been destroyed and looted. Emergency services are being attacked. Where does justified protest end and violence and terror begin?

I know the beautiful stunning buildings being destroyed.

I thought today was Bout the costs of living there.

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 20:38

blankcanvas3 · Today 19:55

I do have to admire the French’s passion when it comes to anything they aren’t happy with though. Violence is never the answer, but they simply don’t take things lying down. We sit complaining about our ever increasing prices, our ever decreasing quality of public services but don’t do anything about it. Part of me just thinks, viva la revolucion. At least they’re doing something about it.

Be careful what you wish for.

Revolucion? Is that what you want?

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:41

celeriacismisunderstood · Today 20:38

Be careful what you wish for.

Revolucion? Is that what you want?

Exactly. Remember Clapham?

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Lemonfrost · Today 20:42

“Would this happen in the UK?”

It already has and for far less noble reasons.

BigBadPotato · Today 20:45

Well, my first thought is that it really is terribly French of them. Of course they’re out of control, but stranger things have happened than protests turning violent, sadly.

leperol · Today 20:46

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:33

Explain the logic to me. They are complaining that there aren’t enough resources so they burn everything to the ground which requires capital to replace it which means even less resources for them.

"They" are not the students protesting about lack of teachers, resources and rat infested classrooms though are they? A hodge podge of former Gilet Jaunes , anarchists, and bored and destructive anti establishment groups.

AlicePottery · Today 20:48

Please try to remember the students protesting about their education are not the ones setting fire to buildings and burning things (ok, maybe a bin or two). The idiots doing that are no longer in education or have no plans at all to continue past what is compulsory.
I'm not sure how much is being shown in British media but a lot of the violence is actually coming from the police towards peaceful protesters, there has been some shocking behaviour coming from people who are supposed to protect the public.

Bluebellcove · Today 20:49

What size class are they unhappy with? I seem to have missed this..

the problem with destroying buildings and resources is that costs such as taxes may well have to go up to replace.

I have never understood why any protest or riot involves looting, whatever the country, Stealing property not belonging to you, not to do with class sizes etc …

AlicePottery · Today 20:50

Bluebellcove · Today 20:49

What size class are they unhappy with? I seem to have missed this..

the problem with destroying buildings and resources is that costs such as taxes may well have to go up to replace.

I have never understood why any protest or riot involves looting, whatever the country, Stealing property not belonging to you, not to do with class sizes etc …

In lycée class sizes are usually between 35 to 40.

ProudCat · Today 20:53

ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Today 20:33

Explain the logic to me. They are complaining that there aren’t enough resources so they burn everything to the ground which requires capital to replace it which means even less resources for them.

There isn't a logic to a riot. It's a mob of people on the rampage.

So here's how it goes:

People have been complaining for a long time
They're ignored
They carry on complainting
They keep being ignored
They start to protest and other people also realise that they've got things to complain about
The protests continue and the protesters begin to make demands
They're ignored
They carry on making demands
They keep being ignored
And so they do something that can't be ignored

That's how you know about it, because through their actions they're not being ignored any more.

Obviously, the logical thing to do, in a democracy, would be for the government to listen to the people when they complain.

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