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To think the French students are out of control?

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ITVXsponsoredbyDominoes · Yesterday 19:53

Demonstrating against large class sizes is one thing.

Smashing up shop windows and looting goods is another.

Idiots. They are 14/15 and when they are arrested the French authorities will come down on them and their criminal records will stay with them forever. Where are the parents in all of this?

Woukd this happen in the UK?

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Charley50 · Yesterday 20:57

How does burning down historical buildings, schools and universities address the problem of large class sizes? What do Palestine flags have to do with a long school day? How does attacking emergency services workers and causing criminal damage to loot from designer clothes shops support the argument for fewer exams and more educational choice?

Sunbringer · Yesterday 21:00

I think you’re overestimating the effect a criminal record from pre18 has on the lives of people.

Sausagenbacon · Yesterday 21:00

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EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 21:07

They’re out of control. It is frightening. Similar scenes in Denmark. They are joined by thugs who just want to burn down the place.
Attacking innocent people trying to earn a living. Calling for the death of the police trying to protect the country.
Students are protesting in other European countries too but are not destroying their own cities and stores.
They have lost any high ground. Who wants these people working in professional jobs?

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 21:13

Charley50 · Yesterday 20:26

Limoges City Hall, a beautiful building over one hundred years old, has been burnt down by these ‘students.’ High-end shops have been destroyed and looted. Emergency services are being attacked. Where does justified protest end and violence and terror begin?

Please read my post. There are two groups. Don't confuse them!

TheTideIsNigh · Yesterday 21:13

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 21:07

They’re out of control. It is frightening. Similar scenes in Denmark. They are joined by thugs who just want to burn down the place.
Attacking innocent people trying to earn a living. Calling for the death of the police trying to protect the country.
Students are protesting in other European countries too but are not destroying their own cities and stores.
They have lost any high ground. Who wants these people working in professional jobs?

They weren’t getting professional jobs (or jobs at all) before this anyway - that’s a big part of the problem.

If it is frightening maybe it is time that western governments (and the older generations that elect them) thought a bit more about inter-generational fairness.

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 21:14

Charley50 · Yesterday 20:57

How does burning down historical buildings, schools and universities address the problem of large class sizes? What do Palestine flags have to do with a long school day? How does attacking emergency services workers and causing criminal damage to loot from designer clothes shops support the argument for fewer exams and more educational choice?

FFS read my post. The ones who care about class sizes aren't the ones burning down buildings!!

YouareJustApreciousLittleGem · Yesterday 21:14

It starts looking like wider civil revolt...but against what? Their national coffers are empty or so what they say, but Macron sent armies to the Middle East, huttis and what not...

I have a friend who lives in a village 5 km out of Paris, she keeps sending jolie photos from her life not even mentioning a word about it...how can we live in such distorted worlds

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 21:16

TheTideIsNigh · Yesterday 21:13

They weren’t getting professional jobs (or jobs at all) before this anyway - that’s a big part of the problem.

If it is frightening maybe it is time that western governments (and the older generations that elect them) thought a bit more about inter-generational fairness.

It is a warning to other European countries to address mass immigration and listen to the citizens.
The government in Ireland is tone deaf, students driving 100 miles or sleeping in their car because there’s no accommodation, nurses, health workers leaving the country because they can’t get jobs while the government sponsor international nurses and doctors.
Destroying the country is not the answer.

Bushmillsbabe · Yesterday 21:20

YouareJustApreciousLittleGem · Yesterday 21:14

It starts looking like wider civil revolt...but against what? Their national coffers are empty or so what they say, but Macron sent armies to the Middle East, huttis and what not...

I have a friend who lives in a village 5 km out of Paris, she keeps sending jolie photos from her life not even mentioning a word about it...how can we live in such distorted worlds

I think the issues are more prevalent I'm more deprived areas, I wonder if your friend lives in a nicer area? I read an account from a student in a deprived area who said his class is up to 50 students, and there are only about 30 chairs/tables, so many students have to stand. Not enough books to go round, teachers often off with no replacement, no toilet paper, toilets blocked and not working etc. It takes him 90 mins to get to school, as lack of school places near him. No excuse for damage to property, but it does sound awful

RaggedRocks · Yesterday 21:22

Les enfants terribles

WrigglyDonCat · Yesterday 21:22

blankcanvas3 · Yesterday 19:55

I do have to admire the French’s passion when it comes to anything they aren’t happy with though. Violence is never the answer, but they simply don’t take things lying down. We sit complaining about our ever increasing prices, our ever decreasing quality of public services but don’t do anything about it. Part of me just thinks, viva la revolucion. At least they’re doing something about it.

I hope you mean "vive la révolution" - unless there has been a sudden incursion of Spanish rioters across the southern frontier.

leperol · Yesterday 21:23

I see Greta Thunberg is there. Seems The students’ issues are being supported sorry hijacked by climate warriors, far left agitators, gilet jaunes and a motley crew of anarchists. I agree with the students BTW and their teachers are not happy either. I don’t know how it will all end but French riot police don’t take any prisoners.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 21:24

Bushmillsbabe · Yesterday 21:20

I think the issues are more prevalent I'm more deprived areas, I wonder if your friend lives in a nicer area? I read an account from a student in a deprived area who said his class is up to 50 students, and there are only about 30 chairs/tables, so many students have to stand. Not enough books to go round, teachers often off with no replacement, no toilet paper, toilets blocked and not working etc. It takes him 90 mins to get to school, as lack of school places near him. No excuse for damage to property, but it does sound awful

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I think the issues are more prevalent I'm more deprived areas, I wonder if your friend lives in a nicer area.
Spot on. That’s the situation in Europe deprived areas are hit first so when the locals speak out they can be labelled as uneducated.

It is well thought out.

TempestTost · Yesterday 21:24

blankcanvas3 · Yesterday 19:55

I do have to admire the French’s passion when it comes to anything they aren’t happy with though. Violence is never the answer, but they simply don’t take things lying down. We sit complaining about our ever increasing prices, our ever decreasing quality of public services but don’t do anything about it. Part of me just thinks, viva la revolucion. At least they’re doing something about it.

The problem with this is that it means there is no change even when there needs to be.

I could easily see the country running itself into a massive debt crisis while people are protesting in the streets. And they just wouldn't care.

Sausagenbacon · Yesterday 21:25

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EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 21:25

I can’t stand Greta Thunberg.

Utahthecat · Yesterday 21:28

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Your comment is disgraceful. The police are already using excessive force on minors. Shooting people for damage to property is totally unjustified.

Sausagenbacon · Yesterday 21:36

Ok. Let's watch while civilisation crashes and burns then

celeriacismisunderstood · Yesterday 21:37

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 21:13

Please read my post. There are two groups. Don't confuse them!

There is a lot of burning and looting.

AlicePottery · Yesterday 21:41

I really think people are mixing everything up. The kids protesting about their schooling are NOT the ones who are looting and damaging things.

Auspiciousminds · Yesterday 21:42

blankcanvas3 · Yesterday 19:55

I do have to admire the French’s passion when it comes to anything they aren’t happy with though. Violence is never the answer, but they simply don’t take things lying down. We sit complaining about our ever increasing prices, our ever decreasing quality of public services but don’t do anything about it. Part of me just thinks, viva la revolucion. At least they’re doing something about it.

Seriously? Doing something about it is one thing, as the earlier peaceful protests were. But this is just mindless thugs who have taken over the protests with the intent of causing as much damage and destruction as possible. This is not French passion and it is certainly not something to be admired.

Utahthecat · Yesterday 21:45

Older generations have made sure to set fire to their futures, the students are not the ones responsible for civilisation crashing and burning. Nor are they the ones burning public buildings.

There are student protests happening in many countries at the moment, the majority of which are positive and peaceful.

Charley50 · Yesterday 21:53

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 21:14

FFS read my post. The ones who care about class sizes aren't the ones burning down buildings!!

Yes, I know. But up until today our media have explained them as ‘largely peaceful student protests.’ The widespread serious mob violence is now the bigger story but how will it be reported?

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