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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

316 replies

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters | Mumsnet

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exha...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

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JHound · 09/09/2026 16:32

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 16:01

Interesting, but Lady Susan Hussey didn't get excused because of her age when she questioned that woman at Buckingham Palace. She was hung out to dry...

By the same man?

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:37

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

People of all types feel differently with all types of situations. 🤷‍♀️

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:38

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

Why should she be ND? She could just be ill mannered. 🤷‍♀️

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:03

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

Which ones specifically?

Gary Lineker, Gary Neville, Narinder Kaur (not that I class the last one as a celebrity).

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:13

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

What silence? From where? What specifically do you want to see?

People who are normally quick to call people racists speaking out when it's a leftie being insulting. Just to be consistent.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 09/09/2026 17:27

They must be desperate not to cancel MM because she is an outspoken critic of Israel.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:36

YourAmplePlumPoster · 09/09/2026 17:27

They must be desperate not to cancel MM because she is an outspoken critic of Israel.

The recent episode of that young actor quitting Maureen Lipman's play because of her stance on Israel was interesting. I'd hazard a guess he's got bugger all to say on the Andi Peters incident. These people's strong moral codes only seem to work in one direction.

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:41

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:13

People who are normally quick to call people racists speaking out when it's a leftie being insulting. Just to be consistent.

Never gonna happen. Wink

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:43

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:41

Never gonna happen. Wink

They want you to change to conform to their standards though. I've seen it on here big time today.

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:45

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:43

They want you to change to conform to their standards though. I've seen it on here big time today.

Very true.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:53

I caught what she said. What shocked me more is that she thought Andy Peters had a white parent. CLEARLY the woman doesnt know what she is talking about and the conversation should of been shut down at that point.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:56

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

The producers DID. They spoke to Andi in his ear piece and he even said on air that the producers are getting worried. The producers are and were fully aware that MM is tone deaf. She just took NO notice. Andi just sort of laughed it off. He did well.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 18:03

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/09/2026 07:39

A woman as old as her, who has written a book, has enough life experience and intelligence to know that the way she referred to the colour of Andy Peter's skin was grossly and wilfully offensive. The accent was also grossly offensive.

If I said that to someone, I'd rightly lose my job. There's no way you can explain away calling someone that unrepeatable term.

I don't think Andy Peters dealt with it well at all. If it is safe to do so, you should call out racism every time, terminate the conversation, or refuse to further engage with the person. He did none of those. It may well have been a surprise for him to have experienced overt racism on his own talk show, but as a seasoned presenter, he should have managed that better.

Sometimes people take you back by surprise. I was walking to work one morning and 2 young men I would say mid 20s/ to late 30s. Said to "me move out of the way Golly wog" I think I was stunned they were young! Also I just walked on thinking which young person uses that term nowadays!

Andi did right not to entertain a person who cant tell a black person from dual heritage. Silence is golden and NOTHING he was going to say to MM would of made a difference let's be honest. MM would of had some old excuse.....

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:04

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:38

Why should she be ND? She could just be ill mannered. 🤷‍♀️

I would imagine there is something wrong with her, given some of the other strange things she comes out with (Im not talking about all the sex talk)

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:05

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:53

I caught what she said. What shocked me more is that she thought Andy Peters had a white parent. CLEARLY the woman doesnt know what she is talking about and the conversation should of been shut down at that point.

Is that your biggest concern?

He could well have had a white parent, people come in all colours and shades (without wanting to be all MM about it)

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:19

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:56

The producers DID. They spoke to Andi in his ear piece and he even said on air that the producers are getting worried. The producers are and were fully aware that MM is tone deaf. She just took NO notice. Andi just sort of laughed it off. He did well.

They spoke to Andi on his ear piece and said 'Im so sorry you should not have to be exposed to this while working and we will protect you'?

Surely you're not misunderstanding what Ive written?

I saying his employers should have issued a statement after the event PUBLICLY to express disapproval and criticise MM?

Not muttering in his ear piece to shut her up because its bad TV for them

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 18:25

im not misunderstanding why would the producers do that? They were expecting her to say such things...... do you get MY point.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 18:27

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:05

Is that your biggest concern?

He could well have had a white parent, people come in all colours and shades (without wanting to be all MM about it)

Do you think I dont know that? She assumed he had a "white daddy" you shouldn't assume. We could all XYZ 🙄🙄

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:28

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 18:25

im not misunderstanding why would the producers do that? They were expecting her to say such things...... do you get MY point.

Because if you manage to follow the thread, there was a discussion about why Andi's employers had not said something to castigate her and support their employee, to show support, to end the silence that we were referring to

So I said 'why havent his employers said something' or WTTE, on the back of that conversation. You then piped up and said, 'oh but they did, in his ear piece'

That is clearly not what the conversation was about. Follow the thread properly.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 19:53

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:28

Because if you manage to follow the thread, there was a discussion about why Andi's employers had not said something to castigate her and support their employee, to show support, to end the silence that we were referring to

So I said 'why havent his employers said something' or WTTE, on the back of that conversation. You then piped up and said, 'oh but they did, in his ear piece'

That is clearly not what the conversation was about. Follow the thread properly.

You aren't making any sense. The producers are not going to invite her on and then tell her off on live air are they. They expected this from here. Anyway im not going in circles with you.

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 20:34

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 19:53

You aren't making any sense. The producers are not going to invite her on and then tell her off on live air are they. They expected this from here. Anyway im not going in circles with you.

Let me tell you something

It really is not me, that is not making sense.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 10/09/2026 07:15

They should have expected something shocking as she likes running her mouth.

Gloriia · 10/09/2026 07:30

They would of course have expected something but usually a slightly cringeworthy comment about farts or knickers. I doubt they'd have expected her to ask a black man 'what are you'. Imo Peters should've been firmer with her and said politely 'it is really inappropriate to ask someone that' intead of all the giggling and enabling.

Until people call her out at the time and let her know firmly and clearly she is being absolutely offensive she'll never change.

LuckyHazelFox · 10/09/2026 07:46

Gloriia · 10/09/2026 07:30

They would of course have expected something but usually a slightly cringeworthy comment about farts or knickers. I doubt they'd have expected her to ask a black man 'what are you'. Imo Peters should've been firmer with her and said politely 'it is really inappropriate to ask someone that' intead of all the giggling and enabling.

Until people call her out at the time and let her know firmly and clearly she is being absolutely offensive she'll never change.

Old dogs and new tricks springs to mind. She's made a living off being controversial. If she wasn't who she was, she would be called a grifter.

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