To think these sporting events should be banned?

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My niece was at the formula one in Italy this weekend.

404,000 people attended, most of whom didn’t seem to be Italian from her words. She told me she bought “at least” ten bottles of water this weekend. 11 teams flying in, flying their drivers in by private jet, and then out again. 404,000 people making extra journeys that they didn’t need to make.

The impact on the environment must be awful. AIBU to think these events should be banned for the sake of the environment?

That heating didn't occur over the course of about 150 years.

Ok so in reality you just have an issue with F1?

Have you told your niece she shouldn't have gone? No holidays for your family. Start with your own before policing other people.

I’d think because it’s every other weekend for what, 6-7 months and it’s held in a different country every time. I’d say its environmental impact is probably pretty high comparatively to other sports.
The op is probably right. But the horse has already bolted in my view so we might as well make hay until the sun shines (us all to death).

Hope you told your niece how much you object to her attendance. Start at home, tell her how much you think.It should be banned and how you expect her to never go again.

No holidays for any of you ever again in your family? I hope that's what you're going to start with.

Yes I’ve told her as much and she just laughed. A disgusting reaction.

I tend not to holiday abroad.

Even a holiday in the UK is not essential travel @idontfeelgoodaboutthis, unless you cycle there it's still hypocritical.

Hardly. There are forms of travel that have very little
climate impact.

No of course not.

Tax the polluting parts of it and use the tax to offset (or more than offset) the carbon impact.

Banning things when there are much much less intrusive options available is authoritarian and wrong.

Do you walk or cycle to your UK holidays?

Also, you say you tend not to, you don't say you won't holiday abroad, in other words you do.

Such utter hypocrisy.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/formula-1-on-track-to-be-net-zero-by-2030-with-26-reduction-in-carbon.4p2vZMDrgDu6lVHLvOcLPy

They’re aware of the impact and have been working on it for years with a net zero aim that they’re well on the way to meeting. The technological developments in F1 with the hybrid engines lead to developments in the motor industry in general, with a trickle down effect. Audi in particular became involved with developing their own F1 engine specifically because of the electric engine components.

404000 didn’t make the journey there. That’s total attendance for the weekend, not individuals who attended. And the vast majority of them are Italian (for the Monza race).

There were a huge number of Italians there, Ferrari is practically a religion (not that they did that well) but an Italian won the F1 and the crowds were ecstatic. Most of the personnel and drivers go by regular flights, one or two drivers do sometimes travel by private jet at their own expense, but most of them live in Europe and a few in Italy anyway and the equipment is mainly sent by sea freight to distant venues. They are also developing green fuels and electric hybrid engines that will all filter down to road vehicles eventually.

It was also a huge event, there wasn't just the F1, there was the F2, F3 and other supporting races as well as entertainment, etc, etc.

Hope she had a good time, but it sounds like it wasn't her sort of thing and it was hot. By all means she needn't go again.

I think they should try to fix golf before they ban anything. It’s horrendous for the environment, wipes out biodiversity, reduces the photosynthesis capacity of the land and uses loads of water. Of course all the heads of state are golfers so it will never happen.

I think BLANK needs to banned immediately -I have no interest in it nor do my family but why should people be allowed to follow or travel to BLANK it’s a disgrace -write to your Mp it needs to be stopped -how dare people have interests and hobbies

It’s not good enough.

And yes @Paquitavariationi do understand that it was across the weekend but that’s still 404,000 people attending. Unless they all lived within a miles walk of the place is not quite the same is it?

Because F1 repeats that almost every weekend. It does have a particularly ridiculous carbon footprint.

But no-one ever explains things to the level of what sports or hobbies will need to be banned to slow down climate change v the effect on the sum of human happiness/the global economy now.

No it’s not 404,000 people attending, a person attending all 3 days would be counted 3 times!

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Very much do as I say, not as I do.

So very condescending.

How about concerts and gigs?

For example Taylor Swift.

Actively working on (and doing a really good job) of mitigating the impact on the environment isn’t good enough? I think you had impossibly high standards. Unless we wipe out international travel for any reason at all then F1 is a drop in the ocean. The amount of international business and leisure travel on any one day across the planet probably eclipses a whole F1 season by quite some way.

It is not 404000 individual people. Some attending (most) will have been counted three times, once for each of the days. And in every Grand Prix the vast majority of people there are from the country where it’s being held, and especially in Italy where motorsport is practically a religion.

I admire your passion about it, but you’ve picked a very oddly specific set of people to aim at.

The crowd at most f1 races are not all that international. Yes, some people travel for a race and others might attend one if they happen to be in a particular country when a race is on, but a Grand Prix is not like a World Cup or the Olympics. Most of the crowd at a circuit are from that country or close neighbours. Monaco is obviously a bit of an exception, but the crowd are still mostly European there. At somewhere like Suzuka there’s very few international fans. Hundreds of thousands of people are not jetting around the world to watch.

F1 is actually a fairly small scale sport, with relatively few people involved. Its carbon footprint pales into insignificance compared to something like football. More players play in one single football match than drive in a formula one weekend. Next weekend there are 9 matches in the premier league alone, with fans travelling to watch. Add in another 12 championship matches and then multiply that by the number of countries around the world with an equivalent football culture and you’ll start to realise the relative scale of their carbon footprints. That before we even get onto world cups, euros, champions league, international friendlies etc that involve international travel.

It seems really odd to single out f1 rather than sports that are much larger in scale with far bigger carbon footprints .

No. Don’t be stupid.

Absolutely not,just because you don't see the point in it doesn't mean it shouldn't happen! Many people across formula one are tying to do as much as they can to reduce the impact on the environment.

And you could tell most of the crowd were Italian with how much they celebrated that Antonwlli won - your niece must have not heard properly or been in a different area to the Italians.