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AIBU to think the stockpile advice suggests something to come??

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OhNoooooooooooooooo · 02/09/2026 15:27

The government is low-key telling people to stock up with tinned food, bottled water etc

I have tinned food, gas camping stoves etc just need to think about water really..

Do you think that they know something is happening/going to happen?

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GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 21:29

smallglassbottle · 08/09/2026 21:24

It's all very strange. They do seem utterly determined that there will be a war with Russia. However, modern warfare isn't really about trenches and hand to hand combat now, so where exactly is this war going to take place? Are they just looking for cannon fodder? Trying to get rid of us or something?

I don't know, d'you think the EU is trying to spook Putin by saying 'look the whole of NATO is totally ready to invade you!' in some attempt to make him back off? I doubt that would happen, especially as Putin has a bunch of nukes sitting there.

Depopulation? Well it would work, sadly. It could be conventional fighting in the neighbouring countries to Russia, but in the UK? Likely to be something else, I'd imagine, as you can't get tanks to the UK easily, but you could send drones. It's all very unsettling and I'm going to see what else I can dig up.

smallglassbottle · 08/09/2026 21:49

There's a rabbit off somewhere. I'm not buying any of this. It seems too contrived on our side.

GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 22:18

This article is interesting showing different possible outcomes, depending on what Russia does and what NATO does.

https://www.theglobalist.com/why-putins-next-move-in-his-war-against-ukraine-is-against-europe/

smallglassbottle · 08/09/2026 22:53

GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 22:18

This article is interesting showing different possible outcomes, depending on what Russia does and what NATO does.

https://www.theglobalist.com/why-putins-next-move-in-his-war-against-ukraine-is-against-europe/

Interesting. Thanks for that article. I must admit I haven't been following the events of the Russia Ukraine war for a while due to worrying about the state of the UK. I didn't realise Russia was doing so badly. It demonstrates that Russia isn't in a position to be seriously invading anywhere else. I suppose they have remote attacks to infrastructure. I trust our government about as much as I trust the Russians tbh.

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:12

GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 20:29

There is definitely something coming. Next Spring marks a big military exercise, but that's not what's concerning.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/army-veterans-recalled-war-armed-forces-bill-military-mobilisation-uk-5Hjdh82_2/

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/uk-to-call-up-95000-retired-members-of-the-armed-forces-for-war-like-preparations/

Army veterans up to the age of 65 are to be recalled, 95,000 of them. This Spring exercise will be compulsory. There's a lot more going forward. Even a school recruitment campaign! Horrific. There are 4 phases to this preparation for war. Poland are well ahead with all this, for obvious reasons being on the border with Ukraine. Active conscription is back in a number of EU countries. NATO are saying war by 2030.

The Telegraph has a lot to say on this but unfortunately I don't have a subscription, I wonder if any of you do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/09/07/army-to-mobilise-veterans-war-preparation/

I really hope this is all hyperbolic but it doesn't feel like it, more like the UK is being pushed onto a war footing, a war none of us want! If you aren't on the reserves list or other military list, then you'll be on the Home Defence program, whatever that is.

I wouldn't worry about that (except for the fact that the UK military doesn't know how to find its reservists and apparently hasn't even thought about it before) its just making sure they are able to call up reservists if needed and seeing how long that'll take. This should have been a regular exercise long ago, my country calls up reservists all the time.

garlictwist · 09/09/2026 04:16

If there was a power cut the freezer would stop working and alll your carefully stockpiled food would be wasted. In the unlikely event of that happening or there being no water I’d just go to the corner shop. I don’t think we need to be crazy.

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:17

IncessantNameChanger · 08/09/2026 21:05

So if you ever been in the forces and under 65 you have no choice? Fml.

A lot of dhs family are ex military and mid 50's

Surely when someone joins the military they would know that means they could be liable to call up later in life if they are in the reserves?

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:18

garlictwist · 09/09/2026 04:16

If there was a power cut the freezer would stop working and alll your carefully stockpiled food would be wasted. In the unlikely event of that happening or there being no water I’d just go to the corner shop. I don’t think we need to be crazy.

If there's a power cut your corner shop might not be selling anything because tills require power.

suki1964 · 09/09/2026 05:11

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:18

If there's a power cut your corner shop might not be selling anything because tills require power.

as do the shutters to get in the shop, and his fridges and freezers :)

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 06:07

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:18

If there's a power cut your corner shop might not be selling anything because tills require power.

There was a power cut local to me. The corner shop took cash and wrote down purchases on paper. No other shop remained open. Independent corner shops tend to be very good at adapting.

Natsku · 09/09/2026 08:43

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 06:07

There was a power cut local to me. The corner shop took cash and wrote down purchases on paper. No other shop remained open. Independent corner shops tend to be very good at adapting.

Works alright for a brief powercut (if no electric doors or shutters) but if a power cut is extended then the shop might not continue doing that.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 09:13

GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 21:24

Apparently! Of course there would still be a medical before they tried to deploy you somewhere but still! This whole thing is quite crazy, and people in the country are not going to be happy about it.

In WW1 a lot of older veterans were recalled. They did not go to the front, but they were used to train men particularly young recruits. So a medical might not exempt you completely from service - it may only exempt you from front line service with deployment elsewhere.

There are a huge number of logistics jobs - a huge percentage of older men in WW1 were put into labour corps which isn't particularly well known about largely because they weren't front line battalions so they weren't deemed important so records for these battalions were not kept in the same way. A lot of what these corps did is therefore lost to history. They essentially were soldiers with spades not guns though and they did a lot of the digging and maintenance of the support for the front lines. The efforts of getting food to the front and getting ammunition to the front was enormous but crucial. They were away from the front line but this doesn't mean they were always out of danger. One of my relatives was in the labour corps and got caught up in gas attack and was hospitalised. It affected his health for years after. Obviously it's changed a lot since WW1 but a failure of a medical isn't necessarily going to stop you being useful in a crisis.

Again reflecting on WW1, people know that a lot of boys lied about their age to go to war, but this was cracked down on by 1918. And this didn't stop very young lads from enlisting. They could enlist from age 16 or 17. They were then called up immediately on turning 18 for full training. If they changed their mind in this period they were screwed. I don't think much has changed in this respect in terms of the youngest you can effectively sign your life away.

Another relative was in a battalion that was actually a territorial battalion. A lot of the men who were in it at the outbreak of war were immediately put on standby the day war was declared and then formally called up for training the following day. Many of these men were in the late thirties or even four times with the officers being older. Again many of these men were important as they had skills others didn't have and they were crucial in training later recruits who signed up after the declaration of war. They were sent to France in early 1915.

I think you have to see moves like this as increasing our war readiness. It is an uneasy feeling to see plans like this. Tbh it's probably not a bad idea because the territorials in 1914 were caught off guard really and it would be better for the reserves to be ready than to do all this after the outbreak of war.

The thing is, if you had talked about this ten years ago it wouldnt feel so real or scary. The fact other countries are also doing the same, if not going much further, and the fact it feels foreboding is a reflection on international instability... The two go hand in hand.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 09:14

Natsku · 09/09/2026 04:17

Surely when someone joins the military they would know that means they could be liable to call up later in life if they are in the reserves?

If you enlist at 16 are you going to realise this implication?

FedUpCelery · 09/09/2026 09:38

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 09:14

If you enlist at 16 are you going to realise this implication?

So many young people join up to get away from shitty lives. The long term consequences don't occur to them.
Then there was as someone I met through my IT job. He was keen to get out as soon as he could. He wasn't built for it and he said the training was gruesome, the hallucinations from exhaustion etc.

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 09:53

@RedToothBrush There are a huge number of logistics jobs Yes this is what my DP said (whose Dad was in the Army), many reservists would find themselves in that type of supporting role (and no less important of course).

I think you have to see moves like this as increasing our war readiness. It is an uneasy feeling to see plans like this. Tbh it's probably not a bad idea because the territorials in 1914 were caught off guard really and it would be better for the reserves to be ready than to do all this after the outbreak of war.

The thing is, if you had talked about this ten years ago it wouldnt feel so real or scary. The fact other countries are also doing the same, if not going much further, and the fact it feels foreboding is a reflection on international instability... The two go hand in hand.

Yes it does give me a very uneasy feeling probably because my entire lifetime of 70 years has been lived in countries at peace, although I've heard plenty of stories about WW2 and WW1 from relatives involved. Makes me very grateful we have not had to do what they did. The thought of that changing is frightening, honestly. I do wonder though whether we are rather too late to the party, things could kick off before next Spring.

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 09:53

GentleSheep · 08/09/2026 20:29

There is definitely something coming. Next Spring marks a big military exercise, but that's not what's concerning.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/army-veterans-recalled-war-armed-forces-bill-military-mobilisation-uk-5Hjdh82_2/

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/uk-to-call-up-95000-retired-members-of-the-armed-forces-for-war-like-preparations/

Army veterans up to the age of 65 are to be recalled, 95,000 of them. This Spring exercise will be compulsory. There's a lot more going forward. Even a school recruitment campaign! Horrific. There are 4 phases to this preparation for war. Poland are well ahead with all this, for obvious reasons being on the border with Ukraine. Active conscription is back in a number of EU countries. NATO are saying war by 2030.

The Telegraph has a lot to say on this but unfortunately I don't have a subscription, I wonder if any of you do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/09/07/army-to-mobilise-veterans-war-preparation/

I really hope this is all hyperbolic but it doesn't feel like it, more like the UK is being pushed onto a war footing, a war none of us want! If you aren't on the reserves list or other military list, then you'll be on the Home Defence program, whatever that is.

We had a huge military exercise where I live this summer. From all over the world. Our windows were shaking for weeks..

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 09:56

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 09:53

We had a huge military exercise where I live this summer. From all over the world. Our windows were shaking for weeks..

Wow! That makes this feel all the more real. It's a long time since Tornado jets roared past our house, they used to practise here a lot.

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 09:56

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 09:14

If you enlist at 16 are you going to realise this implication?

Well, of course you will have to. Is this new to the UK..?

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 10:00

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 09:56

Wow! That makes this feel all the more real. It's a long time since Tornado jets roared past our house, they used to practise here a lot.

Oh we hear and see them quite often. Sometimes chasing away Russian planes.

We had tanks on the roads and military people hiding in the bushes as you drove along. It was so incredibly noisy day and night. I think there were 18.000 soldiers or so.

https://www.nato.int/en/multimedia/multimedia/photos/2026/05/07/nato-allies-train-together-in-swedish-led-exercise-aurora-2026

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 10:03

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 09:56

Well, of course you will have to. Is this new to the UK..?

No. Certainly not.

The British army has always targeted poor working class boys desperate to get away from a situation with no idea of what they are actually signing up for.

Men who understand the implications are the type of men who won't sign up.

DH considered it but didn't pass a medical. He says he was lucky in hindsight...

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 10:05

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 10:03

No. Certainly not.

The British army has always targeted poor working class boys desperate to get away from a situation with no idea of what they are actually signing up for.

Men who understand the implications are the type of men who won't sign up.

DH considered it but didn't pass a medical. He says he was lucky in hindsight...

Oh here it’s women too. My dd was called in when she was 18 and was horrified but in the end she didn’t have to.

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 10:09

A useful summary of the Defence Investment Plan

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10935/

Apparently there is money for this? What happened to the 'we don't have enough funds to train more people'? The MOD wants a British military that is '10 times more lethal'. Ten times more than what? I think we have a low starting figure! 😂Still at least they're doing something because we can't stay as we are, militarily, we do need to improve.

We had tanks on the roads and military people hiding in the bushes as you drove along.

'Oh 'ello, you comfortable sitting in that bush?' 😂I imagine my cat being annoyed at his favourite haunts having the military in them!

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 10:18

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 10:09

A useful summary of the Defence Investment Plan

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10935/

Apparently there is money for this? What happened to the 'we don't have enough funds to train more people'? The MOD wants a British military that is '10 times more lethal'. Ten times more than what? I think we have a low starting figure! 😂Still at least they're doing something because we can't stay as we are, militarily, we do need to improve.

We had tanks on the roads and military people hiding in the bushes as you drove along.

'Oh 'ello, you comfortable sitting in that bush?' 😂I imagine my cat being annoyed at his favourite haunts having the military in them!

😂 I’m glad my old cat no longer had her hearing with all the blank bombs going off!

The MOD wants a British military that is '10 times more lethal'. Ten times more than what? I think we have a low starting figure!

You have to wonder, don’t you. 😂😂

Every time a blank bomb went off I couldn’t help wondering how much that cost and how on earth we could afford it. 😂

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 10:29

arcticduck · 09/09/2026 10:18

😂 I’m glad my old cat no longer had her hearing with all the blank bombs going off!

The MOD wants a British military that is '10 times more lethal'. Ten times more than what? I think we have a low starting figure!

You have to wonder, don’t you. 😂😂

Every time a blank bomb went off I couldn’t help wondering how much that cost and how on earth we could afford it. 😂

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It's very odd how no-one is talking about the expense of all this!

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2026 10:31

GentleSheep · 09/09/2026 10:29

It's very odd how no-one is talking about the expense of all this!

Ultimately if there are more people with extra in the community from people who can afford it, it helps those who can't as there is less competition for what emergency rations are available and local communities will have more available to share.

It means cost is somewhat irrelevant. Even if you can't afford it.

It's system and national resilience as well as individual resilience.

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