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AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results

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Sidedoors · 23/08/2026 16:09

Private school GCSE decline.

What happened? Is this an example of what’s to come?

Fees are rising well beyond inflation annually yet, results are in decline.

State schools prioritising, ‘reserving seats’ in house for 6th Form. Risky investment?

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-results-day-2026-6-key-trends-from-this-years-data/

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
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bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:53

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 09:48

Elite schools are going anti tech and Meta had to pay out billions. Heavy heavy regulations is coming for AI and the tech bros and your bot OP.

I’m sure Elon Musk is preparing for the downturn….

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 09:50

Apparently some also exclude Shakespeare.

A mum who achieved 3 A A levels at state school complained to the private her dc is at as she was told they won’t cover certain topics?

When she found out about “IGCSE” she met the head.

Seems very unfair.

Edited

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:01

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

So it is true?

I would love to see Labour level up.

All children deserve opportunities.

Its so important those gifted in society are spotted from an early age.

There is a vast difference between gifted children and those of pushy-parents just seeking uniform and status.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:02

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

https://www.leadingtuition.co.uk/blog/igcse-vs-gcse-english-literature

IGCSE vs GCSE English Literature 2026 | Leading Tuition

IGCSE and GCSE English Literature compared for 2026: set texts, closed vs open-book rules, coursework options and paper weighting, board by board.

https://www.leadingtuition.co.uk/blog/igcse-vs-gcse-english-literature

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:03

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 09:57

I think it would be fair if state schools had the same options available. But they don't.

Excluding Shakespeare in the UK is shocking. But IGCSEs are created for an international studentship. So I get it for them.

£375 bargain 😂

https://www.ool.co.uk/igcse/english-literature/

IGCSE English Literature | Distance Learning | Oxford Open Learning

English Literature IGCSE Distance Learning Course from Oxford Open Learning. Study with Qualified Tutors & Monthly Payments. Register Online to Start Learning.

https://www.ool.co.uk/igcse/english-literature/

Longtimelurker1980 · 28/08/2026 10:21

Dooferer · 23/08/2026 16:32

Parents don’t aways send kids to private schools for grades. You know that don’t you? It’s a much more enriching experience. They come out of it much happier and more confident. That probably helps them more in future life than being a few grades higher in a few subjects.

I would gently challenge this assumption. My children go to the local state which has better resourcing than many of the city privates because it is big and benefits from those economies of scale. It also attracts excellent teachers and excels in the arts and sport. Many of the children who go there come out with straight 9s (more than 10 per cent of kids got 10 grade 8s or above in GCSE this year) and are just as confident as their privately educated peers who live on the same street. Similarly, there are kids from both sides of the fence who struggle, don’t thrive in their chosen setting and can’t have a conversation with an adult by 16. so it’s a much more nuanced position than you suggest.

we chose not to privately educate on political (small p) grounds but appreciate that we have clever kids with thick skins and strong socials. They have thrived at state. My friends’ kids have been sent to private because of various reasons such as neurodiversity, failure to thrive, bullying etc and I completely understand why. If it were in my child’s next interests I would absolutely do it and stuff the politics.

one thing I particularly value about state school is that my kids are around the more ‘gritty’ life experiences that link back to my own childhood: poverty, crime, drug abuse, neglect, etc. They share classes with struggling kids and have learned to be empathetic to other people’s life experiences (which after all is what creates the ‘bad behaviour’ in class) whilst learning to concentrate amid minor chaos. That’s a very important life skill - none of us will have the opportunity to work only in complete silence.

however, they are also around friends who are advantaged and snobby and have what I would call ‘small world’ views and have learned to challenge that too. I feel they have seen a decent spread of what life throws at people, providing a very deep life-skills type enrichment outside of academics.

these discussions can become very rude as people try to justify their own positions. It’s always emotional because the system is unfair - those with money are perceived to get a better education. But for my part I would gently challenge what ‘better’ looks like.

Two different schooling choices can be perfectly reasonable at the same time. Let’s share views but appreciate that in denigrating someone else’s we weaken our own.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:29

Longtimelurker1980 · 28/08/2026 10:21

I would gently challenge this assumption. My children go to the local state which has better resourcing than many of the city privates because it is big and benefits from those economies of scale. It also attracts excellent teachers and excels in the arts and sport. Many of the children who go there come out with straight 9s (more than 10 per cent of kids got 10 grade 8s or above in GCSE this year) and are just as confident as their privately educated peers who live on the same street. Similarly, there are kids from both sides of the fence who struggle, don’t thrive in their chosen setting and can’t have a conversation with an adult by 16. so it’s a much more nuanced position than you suggest.

we chose not to privately educate on political (small p) grounds but appreciate that we have clever kids with thick skins and strong socials. They have thrived at state. My friends’ kids have been sent to private because of various reasons such as neurodiversity, failure to thrive, bullying etc and I completely understand why. If it were in my child’s next interests I would absolutely do it and stuff the politics.

one thing I particularly value about state school is that my kids are around the more ‘gritty’ life experiences that link back to my own childhood: poverty, crime, drug abuse, neglect, etc. They share classes with struggling kids and have learned to be empathetic to other people’s life experiences (which after all is what creates the ‘bad behaviour’ in class) whilst learning to concentrate amid minor chaos. That’s a very important life skill - none of us will have the opportunity to work only in complete silence.

however, they are also around friends who are advantaged and snobby and have what I would call ‘small world’ views and have learned to challenge that too. I feel they have seen a decent spread of what life throws at people, providing a very deep life-skills type enrichment outside of academics.

these discussions can become very rude as people try to justify their own positions. It’s always emotional because the system is unfair - those with money are perceived to get a better education. But for my part I would gently challenge what ‘better’ looks like.

Two different schooling choices can be perfectly reasonable at the same time. Let’s share views but appreciate that in denigrating someone else’s we weaken our own.

“…. Who live on the same street..”

This,

No matter the pretence, this is the reality. We’re all living it. We all see it. We all form our own experience led evaluations!

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:29

Socioeconomic background is 4 x more likely to determine educational outcome than any other factor! According to the IFS 2022 report. Let that sink in. It matters jot where and what school kids go to except when there is value added for learning needs.
All this Labour government have done is to try and create division. But it isn’t going to work because the true haves know what they have and they can double down. Trying to indoctrinate a few more middle class people and push them state doesn’t work, if anything they turn anti ideology and dogma.

And IGCSe by the way are far more woke and flexible encompassing more of world lit and world history! Not the uk centric dogma.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:32

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:29

Socioeconomic background is 4 x more likely to determine educational outcome than any other factor! According to the IFS 2022 report. Let that sink in. It matters jot where and what school kids go to except when there is value added for learning needs.
All this Labour government have done is to try and create division. But it isn’t going to work because the true haves know what they have and they can double down. Trying to indoctrinate a few more middle class people and push them state doesn’t work, if anything they turn anti ideology and dogma.

And IGCSe by the way are far more woke and flexible encompassing more of world lit and world history! Not the uk centric dogma.

If you’re correct,

this will reflect in next years annual financial accounts.

One would hate to see the “fee assistance” increase from 1 in 3, 1/3, one THIRD to,

1 in 2, 1/2, one HALF…..

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:33

And by the way I am pissed that the State ordains from the top exactly what my kids should be learning and how they should think because they are subjected to a mandatory national curriculum. Like most people with a proper higher education I teach my kids to challenge both the national curriculum and the political dogma/brainwashing behind it. You can do that even if you can’t afford private school. I still fully support m my DC state schools as they don’t get a choice but to rigidly implement whatever nonsense the Patriarchal system of DFE and ofsted overlords them with.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 10:34

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:03

I have a friend who tried to do this for her child. Hard to replace a teacher with an online course. Also finding an exam centre that takes on private candidates to sit exams is hard. And I think private candidates don't have the coursework option (not sure about this).

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:39

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 10:33

And by the way I am pissed that the State ordains from the top exactly what my kids should be learning and how they should think because they are subjected to a mandatory national curriculum. Like most people with a proper higher education I teach my kids to challenge both the national curriculum and the political dogma/brainwashing behind it. You can do that even if you can’t afford private school. I still fully support m my DC state schools as they don’t get a choice but to rigidly implement whatever nonsense the Patriarchal system of DFE and ofsted overlords them with.

That’s your perspective.

Others especially British, based in UK fiercely protect “British standards” British heritage and culture and insist their children are exposed to that as foundation.

TheCoolTiger · 28/08/2026 10:46

Sidedoors · 23/08/2026 17:49

Independent schools (bar those in London who are wealthy) their revenue source comes directly from fee payers.

If their internal benefits bill has already reached its highest ever handout 1/3 of families in hardship how long can this last? Families paying more in annual fee hikes to subsidise 1/3 on benefits. Bursary should be means tested for disadvantaged in society earned under test criteria. This 1/3 is not going to charitable cause. It’s going to middle class friends of the administration who cannot afford the fees.

I don’t understand this point. Surely if you can’t pay you can’t pay? Why do you have to be ‘extra’ unable to pay?

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:48

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 10:34

I have a friend who tried to do this for her child. Hard to replace a teacher with an online course. Also finding an exam centre that takes on private candidates to sit exams is hard. And I think private candidates don't have the coursework option (not sure about this).

I think it’s refreshing to just understand that education is fluid. So many different ways to gain the qualifications.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:50

TheCoolTiger · 28/08/2026 10:46

I don’t understand this point. Surely if you can’t pay you can’t pay? Why do you have to be ‘extra’ unable to pay?

Every family who haggle another family subsidises. So the “fee assistance” number increases.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/08/parents-haggle-private-school-fees/

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 11:01

„Others especially British, based in UK fiercely protect “British standards” British heritage and culture and insist their children are exposed to that as foundation.“

@bedtimeaudible - you are talking out of your hat again and not following any of the nuances in the actual educational press. Telegraph is considered a foreign controlled click bait rag full of cliches.

On the ground there is extensive debate as to what texts and versions of history children should be taught given eg over 40 per cent non white in London with mused heritage, birth etc
one thing is clear- in UK politicians are given far too much control over health and education which they then use to further their own political football games at the expense of our children. In real life I don’t know a single person who works in education who doesn’t think that. Covid was the epitome of the absurdity of the control they exercise and nobody is going to forget that. Add in the absurdity of student loans and things like the private school VAT the one thing that is clear is that most will demand more autonomy not less.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 11:55

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 11:01

„Others especially British, based in UK fiercely protect “British standards” British heritage and culture and insist their children are exposed to that as foundation.“

@bedtimeaudible - you are talking out of your hat again and not following any of the nuances in the actual educational press. Telegraph is considered a foreign controlled click bait rag full of cliches.

On the ground there is extensive debate as to what texts and versions of history children should be taught given eg over 40 per cent non white in London with mused heritage, birth etc
one thing is clear- in UK politicians are given far too much control over health and education which they then use to further their own political football games at the expense of our children. In real life I don’t know a single person who works in education who doesn’t think that. Covid was the epitome of the absurdity of the control they exercise and nobody is going to forget that. Add in the absurdity of student loans and things like the private school VAT the one thing that is clear is that most will demand more autonomy not less.

Back in the day private school was synonymous with wealth.

Thats gone.

Education is now very easily accessible and open to all.

Private schools are left with a defunct USP.

They do not have the finance to match cocurricular or enrichment that individual families can provide in house for their own children.

Rich kids are not rubbing shoulders with other rich kids the landscape has changed rich kid families are increasingly having to subsidise ALL those claiming hardship or in general not paying their fair share. Rich kids having their property stolen by others forced into situations where the green eyed monster is fed daily. It’s a very odd situation. Something will have to give.

In UK whether immigration or education families are increasingly demanding British values and a British society where all are welcome but nothing and no one is able to interfere with British heritage and values. British values are taught heavily under said banner to really drive that message home to all choosing to live/study in UK. This movement is rapidly on the increase.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 11:59

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 11:01

„Others especially British, based in UK fiercely protect “British standards” British heritage and culture and insist their children are exposed to that as foundation.“

@bedtimeaudible - you are talking out of your hat again and not following any of the nuances in the actual educational press. Telegraph is considered a foreign controlled click bait rag full of cliches.

On the ground there is extensive debate as to what texts and versions of history children should be taught given eg over 40 per cent non white in London with mused heritage, birth etc
one thing is clear- in UK politicians are given far too much control over health and education which they then use to further their own political football games at the expense of our children. In real life I don’t know a single person who works in education who doesn’t think that. Covid was the epitome of the absurdity of the control they exercise and nobody is going to forget that. Add in the absurdity of student loans and things like the private school VAT the one thing that is clear is that most will demand more autonomy not less.

It is a legal requirement in UK to teach British values.

https://www.votesforschools.com/blog/british-values/

Everything you need to know about British Values in Educatio

A complete guide to British Values in education, including what they are, how to embed them into your curriculum & guidance on British Values policy writing.

https://www.votesforschools.com/blog/british-values/

Slightyamusedandsilly · 28/08/2026 11:59

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 10:48

I think it’s refreshing to just understand that education is fluid. So many different ways to gain the qualifications.

I do agree with this. If it wasn't for the difficulty of finding actual places to take exams as a private candidate, I think a lot more people would take this route.

38thparallel · 28/08/2026 14:00

however, they are also around friends who are advantaged and snobby and have what I would call ‘small world’ views and have learned to challenge that too

@Longtimelurker1980 Where do they meet these ‘advantaged and snobby’ people? What are their small world views that your morally superior children challenge?

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 14:06

I wonder where Sidedoors has gone? 🧐

Backtoschooloncemore · 28/08/2026 14:13

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 14:06

I wonder where Sidedoors has gone? 🧐

Too busy pairing up socks?

Backtoschooloncemore · 28/08/2026 14:16

Telegraph is considered a foreign controlled click bait rag full of cliches.

That sounds like The Guardian.

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 14:16

it is a bot with multiple user names that is being trained in the supposed art of ahem non nuanced female debate and is also being used to suss out online user engagement. It has been on multiple threads but the lingo it uses can be spotted a mile off.

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 14:18

Araminta1004 · 28/08/2026 14:16

it is a bot with multiple user names that is being trained in the supposed art of ahem non nuanced female debate and is also being used to suss out online user engagement. It has been on multiple threads but the lingo it uses can be spotted a mile off.

Indeed. It’s really quite ridiculous.

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