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AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results

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Sidedoors · 23/08/2026 16:09

Private school GCSE decline.

What happened? Is this an example of what’s to come?

Fees are rising well beyond inflation annually yet, results are in decline.

State schools prioritising, ‘reserving seats’ in house for 6th Form. Risky investment?

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-results-day-2026-6-key-trends-from-this-years-data/

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
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Sidedoors · 26/08/2026 10:42

Backtoschooloncemore · 26/08/2026 10:04

As these threads have progressed, I have become more convinced OP does actually have a child in private school, and may not even have a child at all, but is trying to sow resentment amongst those with children at private school.

Your kids are the regular kids,

and everyone knows it!

(Data from your own institutions)

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
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Labraradabrador · 26/08/2026 13:22

Sidedoors · 26/08/2026 10:38

There’s a paradox here let me explain,

Most know academia doesn’t pay,

Those who dedicate their lives to teaching know it’s not well paid whether school or uni. The pursuit of higher education comes, often with great student debt.

Often teachers, professors even can be working whilst still paying off student loans.

It’s the “academics” or those who believe they’re of superior education who will often correct on mumsnet. They can be entitled and obnoxious. The problem is more often than not these “academics” have chosen to teach not do. They often lack the funds or the finance to pay for these institutions.

More often than not a humble business owner perhaps with basic education will be financially superior as they chose to DO, not teach.

Theres a society of old school “academics” holding onto these independent institutions with a vice like grip yet, They cannot afford them.

We’re moving into a technological era where education is open to all for low cost. Education is increasingly not only for high society, it’s accessible, universal.

There is poverty within independent education just as there is wealth within state school.

Your own independent articles and data are testament to that Fact. The world has changed and it is private school being left behind, drowning in debt and financial burden.

Sounds like you despise the entire education sector, not just private

Backtoschooloncemore · 26/08/2026 13:28

Sidedoors · 26/08/2026 10:42

Your kids are the regular kids,

and everyone knows it!

(Data from your own institutions)

My kids? What do you mean by ‘regular kids’? Is this meant to be good or bad?

CatkinToadflax · 27/08/2026 08:53

OP why does this upset you so much if it’s nothing to do with you? And where did you find that a third of private school students are in hardship? I don’t mean the 1/3 on fee remissions - which could be for a variety of reasons - I mean the actual word ‘hardship’? The private school sector gets a lot of criticism for the schools with charitable status apparently not undertaking enough charitable activities. Perhaps they are trying to do more. “Another poster” on one of the very similar threads claims that all private schools are giving hefty discounts for friends and relatives of teachers. They didn’t provide any evidence though.

Personally I would love to see state schools able to provide for every student, and for private schools to gradually no longer need to exist because the state schools are so good. Unfortunately there is currently still a gap.

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Sidedoors · 27/08/2026 18:51

They’re broke,

Can’t afford to stay in LA,

Wonder if they’re on the bursary too?……

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/23/independent-prep-schools-private-education-harry-meghan/

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Sidedoors · 27/08/2026 18:56

CatkinToadflax · 27/08/2026 08:53

OP why does this upset you so much if it’s nothing to do with you? And where did you find that a third of private school students are in hardship? I don’t mean the 1/3 on fee remissions - which could be for a variety of reasons - I mean the actual word ‘hardship’? The private school sector gets a lot of criticism for the schools with charitable status apparently not undertaking enough charitable activities. Perhaps they are trying to do more. “Another poster” on one of the very similar threads claims that all private schools are giving hefty discounts for friends and relatives of teachers. They didn’t provide any evidence though.

Personally I would love to see state schools able to provide for every student, and for private schools to gradually no longer need to exist because the state schools are so good. Unfortunately there is currently still a gap.

This drama is playing out for all to dissect,

I don’t like the misinformation people should be very aware what they commit to. Private schools are entirely dependent on Fee money, to survive.

The finances are now all being monitored more so than even just a year or two ago.

So all we need to do is wait and monitor the Data. We have a Labour government for at least the next 3 years.

So time will tell if they are able to level Up education in UK.

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Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 20:23

Sidedoors · 27/08/2026 18:51

They’re broke,

Can’t afford to stay in LA,

Wonder if they’re on the bursary too?……

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/23/independent-prep-schools-private-education-harry-meghan/

You might want to reread this one OP - highlights nuance within the private sector. you could use some nuance,

Specifically highlights that standalone preps are most vulnerable for a number of reasons with VAT being a bit of a tipping point for many. The market is changing, and some schools are better positioned to adapt than others- all through schools and schools that combine boarding with day students seem to be adaptable. Some of this contraction was inevitable, some could have been avoided without the intense pressure of VAT, and I am very bitter about Labour’s callous and pointless policy even if my own school seems to be weathering just fine.

in any case, private education is not going anywhere and there is a persistent gap between what state and private provide.

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:01

It’s true. Today’s news

Families are seeking financial advice and assessments prior to considering schools. It is a big investment, I think it’s only right to do thorough due diligence. There is a lot going on with these schools behind the scenes that they never share with families.

I think it is callous to pretend to families that everything is ok, continue to take their money then shut down a week before start of an academic year! OC The school knows the financial situation. One closed £5M in debt!

Consultants in demand as parents seek advice on private schools

https://www.thetimes.com/business/companies-markets/article/recruitment-education-consultants-private-schools-d9mjwsdkz

It is sensible to seek advice and study the books. Ask questions not rely on what the staff tell you is true.

AIBU to question rising private school fees amid declining GCSE results
bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:05

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 20:23

You might want to reread this one OP - highlights nuance within the private sector. you could use some nuance,

Specifically highlights that standalone preps are most vulnerable for a number of reasons with VAT being a bit of a tipping point for many. The market is changing, and some schools are better positioned to adapt than others- all through schools and schools that combine boarding with day students seem to be adaptable. Some of this contraction was inevitable, some could have been avoided without the intense pressure of VAT, and I am very bitter about Labour’s callous and pointless policy even if my own school seems to be weathering just fine.

in any case, private education is not going anywhere and there is a persistent gap between what state and private provide.

I think you miss OP point.

No family paying these fees plus annual hikes will tolerate “weathering” anything.

When you take money, investment, there is an expectation attached to that. It is not about getting by. Schools must deliver in all areas. Under a Labour government. No mean feat.

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:08

😮

This is what happens when you employ “teachers” without teaching qualifications.

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 22:16

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:05

I think you miss OP point.

No family paying these fees plus annual hikes will tolerate “weathering” anything.

When you take money, investment, there is an expectation attached to that. It is not about getting by. Schools must deliver in all areas. Under a Labour government. No mean feat.

Change of name?

I made no mention of ‘weathering’ - no idea what you are referring to.

schools that under deliver will rightly struggle. Many many private schools ARE delivering results well ahead of state, though. Lots of parents unhappy with the state sector = customer base for private schools.

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:18

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 20:23

You might want to reread this one OP - highlights nuance within the private sector. you could use some nuance,

Specifically highlights that standalone preps are most vulnerable for a number of reasons with VAT being a bit of a tipping point for many. The market is changing, and some schools are better positioned to adapt than others- all through schools and schools that combine boarding with day students seem to be adaptable. Some of this contraction was inevitable, some could have been avoided without the intense pressure of VAT, and I am very bitter about Labour’s callous and pointless policy even if my own school seems to be weathering just fine.

in any case, private education is not going anywhere and there is a persistent gap between what state and private provide.

*weathering

I’ve just read the thread.

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:20

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 22:16

Change of name?

I made no mention of ‘weathering’ - no idea what you are referring to.

schools that under deliver will rightly struggle. Many many private schools ARE delivering results well ahead of state, though. Lots of parents unhappy with the state sector = customer base for private schools.

Time will tell……

The pressure for independent school is simple the results MUST outweigh the sacrifice. That margin for error is shrinking with each passing day.

Next years financial accounts will be very telling as by then VAT impact will be known.

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 22:35

bedtimeaudible · 27/08/2026 22:20

Time will tell……

The pressure for independent school is simple the results MUST outweigh the sacrifice. That margin for error is shrinking with each passing day.

Next years financial accounts will be very telling as by then VAT impact will be known.

Do better - your writing ‘style’ is very distinct @Sidedoors

yes, time will telll. Pretty confident that while some schools will suffer, overall the sector will be fine. Provision in state is far from stellar - some do a decent job, many are inadequate. labour government policies are more about levelling down than levelling up, but it doesn’t work - it just ends up with a bigger, starker divide between state and private.

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 06:54

It’s funny how the phrase “time will tell” is only used on these multiple very similar threads by the multiple very similar posters.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:13

Labraradabrador · 27/08/2026 22:35

Do better - your writing ‘style’ is very distinct @Sidedoors

yes, time will telll. Pretty confident that while some schools will suffer, overall the sector will be fine. Provision in state is far from stellar - some do a decent job, many are inadequate. labour government policies are more about levelling down than levelling up, but it doesn’t work - it just ends up with a bigger, starker divide between state and private.

If that theory were true the support schools issue would be non existent (as the wealthy can afford the provision) the tiered system removed and all wealthy families would be happy with standard of provision and paying the exact same Fee.

Thats not happening as there is simply not that level of wealth in UK. The wealthy can move to international schools and wait out the current dire situation. If things improve they’ll being their children back but, they’ll not have them sitting economising, making do.

Of your theory is correct next years financial records will show that bar means tested bursary for the gifted all other discounts and fee assistance has been abolished…. They will level down if they continue this unsustainable model into next financial year as we’re all watching the finance.

We talk on time,

Labour do have time to make changes and level up.

But for the education sector on a whole time is a luxury.

The advancement of AI and technology forward thinking wealthy families looking at the best way to educate their children, efficiently. When you have the funds to secure academics plus enrichment (on a global level). Technologically advanced options may well become the new “elite” provision. Where the pool of students become an ‘international’ school body of the wealthy who study online and meet for global enrichment.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:39

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 06:54

It’s funny how the phrase “time will tell” is only used on these multiple very similar threads by the multiple very similar posters.

I hope that the UK and UK education can get back to being the best in the world. That requires funding.

I do not like independent schools telling families all is well when ultimately the money they hand over in good faith is not being allocated to their own child.

If this continues families will grow tired of the constant sacrifices and stretched home finances. The image of “kids at private school” yet no family time, enrichment or little luxuries does not go hand in hand. Some families the children are dressed in rags, they literally have nothing no holidays and constant financial pressure at home which adds pressure to the child. If you know your family are going without to pay these fees that level of pressure and expectation robs you of any ‘childhood’ it’s a burden. Again, the financial reports at the end of this academic year will give a very clear picture of what’s to come.

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 08:42

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:39

I hope that the UK and UK education can get back to being the best in the world. That requires funding.

I do not like independent schools telling families all is well when ultimately the money they hand over in good faith is not being allocated to their own child.

If this continues families will grow tired of the constant sacrifices and stretched home finances. The image of “kids at private school” yet no family time, enrichment or little luxuries does not go hand in hand. Some families the children are dressed in rags, they literally have nothing no holidays and constant financial pressure at home which adds pressure to the child. If you know your family are going without to pay these fees that level of pressure and expectation robs you of any ‘childhood’ it’s a burden. Again, the financial reports at the end of this academic year will give a very clear picture of what’s to come.

Perhaps families at private schools - and indeed state schools - want to make their own decisions about what’s best for their child’s education?

Which children are dressed in rags? Which schools do they attend?

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 08:48

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:13

If that theory were true the support schools issue would be non existent (as the wealthy can afford the provision) the tiered system removed and all wealthy families would be happy with standard of provision and paying the exact same Fee.

Thats not happening as there is simply not that level of wealth in UK. The wealthy can move to international schools and wait out the current dire situation. If things improve they’ll being their children back but, they’ll not have them sitting economising, making do.

Of your theory is correct next years financial records will show that bar means tested bursary for the gifted all other discounts and fee assistance has been abolished…. They will level down if they continue this unsustainable model into next financial year as we’re all watching the finance.

We talk on time,

Labour do have time to make changes and level up.

But for the education sector on a whole time is a luxury.

The advancement of AI and technology forward thinking wealthy families looking at the best way to educate their children, efficiently. When you have the funds to secure academics plus enrichment (on a global level). Technologically advanced options may well become the new “elite” provision. Where the pool of students become an ‘international’ school body of the wealthy who study online and meet for global enrichment.

As explained many times, the existence of bursaries and discounts has nothing to do with financial health of the school - if anything it is the opposite for the most competitive schools who use it to secure top talent. I know one family heading to boarding school this year on a significant reduction in fees because child is ranked top 10 nationally for their sport. Family had fully funded private education since reception for multiple children (and continue to do so) so definitely not a hardship situation- school just have a reputation for this sport and are using fee reduction as a mechanism to secure top talent.

The technology question is more interesting. If anything I see it increasing the premium placed on private education and a more personal and sometimes more traditional approach to learning. In terms of tech adoption, private schools are well ahead of state :https://www.suttontrust.com/news-opinion/all-news-opinion/state-schools-falling-behind-in-new-ai-digital-divide/

State schools falling behind in new AI digital divide - The Sutton Trust

Our research explores emerging differences in how AI is being used in schools across the country.

https://www.suttontrust.com/news-opinion/all-news-opinion/state-schools-falling-behind-in-new-ai-digital-divide/

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:49

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 08:42

Perhaps families at private schools - and indeed state schools - want to make their own decisions about what’s best for their child’s education?

Which children are dressed in rags? Which schools do they attend?

Many children of the struggling middle classes at private schools. The kids pointing out “he’s worn that same top for two years” many families constantly raiding the lost property bins. Items never seeming to make their way back to rightful owners.

If you are in the circle you will see the struggle of the squeezed middle. This squeezed middle are the bread and butter of regional independents.

Do not minimise the dire financial situation at independent schools. It’s that fraud that I absolutely do not agree with! They must gain hold of their runaway fee assistance before next year, if it increases those figures will speak for themselves.

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 08:52

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:49

Many children of the struggling middle classes at private schools. The kids pointing out “he’s worn that same top for two years” many families constantly raiding the lost property bins. Items never seeming to make their way back to rightful owners.

If you are in the circle you will see the struggle of the squeezed middle. This squeezed middle are the bread and butter of regional independents.

Do not minimise the dire financial situation at independent schools. It’s that fraud that I absolutely do not agree with! They must gain hold of their runaway fee assistance before next year, if it increases those figures will speak for themselves.

So you can’t give any actual examples then?

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:53

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 08:48

As explained many times, the existence of bursaries and discounts has nothing to do with financial health of the school - if anything it is the opposite for the most competitive schools who use it to secure top talent. I know one family heading to boarding school this year on a significant reduction in fees because child is ranked top 10 nationally for their sport. Family had fully funded private education since reception for multiple children (and continue to do so) so definitely not a hardship situation- school just have a reputation for this sport and are using fee reduction as a mechanism to secure top talent.

The technology question is more interesting. If anything I see it increasing the premium placed on private education and a more personal and sometimes more traditional approach to learning. In terms of tech adoption, private schools are well ahead of state :https://www.suttontrust.com/news-opinion/all-news-opinion/state-schools-falling-behind-in-new-ai-digital-divide/

State school families who push academia have devices and tutors readily available at home.

They send their children to school currently to be taught, by qualified teachers. In person. They could pay for online schooling or AI school instead of private school.

Of course the disadvantaged of society will suffer but this has no impact on everyone else.

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:55

Labraradabrador · 28/08/2026 08:48

As explained many times, the existence of bursaries and discounts has nothing to do with financial health of the school - if anything it is the opposite for the most competitive schools who use it to secure top talent. I know one family heading to boarding school this year on a significant reduction in fees because child is ranked top 10 nationally for their sport. Family had fully funded private education since reception for multiple children (and continue to do so) so definitely not a hardship situation- school just have a reputation for this sport and are using fee reduction as a mechanism to secure top talent.

The technology question is more interesting. If anything I see it increasing the premium placed on private education and a more personal and sometimes more traditional approach to learning. In terms of tech adoption, private schools are well ahead of state :https://www.suttontrust.com/news-opinion/all-news-opinion/state-schools-falling-behind-in-new-ai-digital-divide/

You’re sharing old conservative problems,

Labour have already actioned this plan

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/no-child-left-behind-in-plans-to-narrow-the-digital-divide-in-education

No child left behind in plans to narrow the digital divide in education

Consultation launched on plans to make digital standards a requirement for all schools, alongside £45 million investment to improve connectivity

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/no-child-left-behind-in-plans-to-narrow-the-digital-divide-in-education

bedtimeaudible · 28/08/2026 08:59

CatkinToadflax · 28/08/2026 08:52

So you can’t give any actual examples then?

Why would I give personal information on MN!

Families do you resonate with uniform and expensive items sports kit and gear, constantly “going missing” from within private schools. It’s a running commentary with our mums.

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