Aibu to think 6 years sentence is far too lenient for killing your baby.

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Am I the only person who thinks sentencing Courtney Gartshaw to just 6 years for killing her 3 month old baby with hairdryer (burned her to death) is a travesty of justice. She will likely be out in 3! She took the baby on a drink and drug fuelled bender, returning home at 3am, before turning the hairdryer on her tiny baby . Her body was so badly damaged the paramedics thought the baby was decomposed. Gartshaw was allowed bail and her lawyers pleaded for her not to be incarcerated because of her mental health. WTF has happened to our justice system.

Those mechanisms didn’t work with Constance Marten and Mark Gordon, though, until it was too late..

Appeal it. Anyone can

You rarely hear a sentence today that seems long enough.

This may be a suprise to you, but when things
work, they don't tend to make the news.
I also suspect that the mum in this case doesn't have access to a tens of thousands of pounds of cash that would enable her to go into hiding, unlike constance did.

I agree. In cases of child abuse/manslaughter/murder of their own child, those convicted should get the choice of a longer sentence, where they will serve the whole term, or a shorter sentence + voluntary sterilisation.

At the very least she should be forcibly sterilised.

At best, she should behind bars for life.

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon did that

Well, exactly, she would be free to go wherever she wanted.

With the aid of thousands of pounds of cash, and it was so unusual that it made national headlines. One exception doesn't mean the system doesn't work, there are plenty of babies born safely as a result of these mechanisms, but they're not exciting or unusual enough to be reported in the press.

Absolutely! You're going to keep someone in prison for say, 15 or 20 years longer than you otherwise would, with the intent of holding them until they're infertile? And you think thats more humane than keyhole surgery of the sort that people have all the time, with a shorter sentence? You think that's better for their rehabilitation? Better for the tax payer? Seriously??

At least give the criminal the ability to choose.

This. Its likely the baby was dead already or at the very least she thought she was warming up

Death by neglect, but not murder

Im not sure what an appropriate sentence is to be honest. This doesnt seem long enough but I dont believe she murdered the baby

Awful situation. I also dont think its relevant what her background is. Once you become a parent your sole responsbility is that child.

Creating multiple adoptive children who have been torn away from the mother who murdered their sibling is not a success, though. If you're going to forcibly take any babies she gestates away anyway, traumatising both her and the child, why not just sterilise her? It seems kinder to everyone, and much safer.

If she were to become pregnant she would be monitored during the pregnancy and the baby would almost certainly be removed at birth for adoption or care within her extended family.

In what way is that a good outcome…for the mother or the child? If a mother has clearly demonstrated that she is unable to care for her children adequately, to such an extent that the state has decided it will step in to make sure she cannot keep any subsequent children she may have, what is the objection to sterilisation?

A life sentence wouldn’t be enough for this murderer.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-mother-who-killed-her-two-children-in-uk-mansion-spared-jail

I agree. This woman murdered her 2 children and didn't even go to jail.😔

Where was the father?

Do you think other countries are immune from cases like this? If so, you are deluded.

The sad truth is this woman will be probably be released 2/3 of the way though her sentence and get pregnant again.

with that disgusting attitude you’re just as bad if not worse than someone who does things fuelled by drugs, you are presumably sober and that’s how your mind works. gross.

And cheaper for the tax payer!

@Jdot and @OtterlyAstounding @maudelovesharold

Capable of being edgelords but not of reading a four page thread, how very original!

I read that comment and...disagree.

I'm not sure why thinking sterilisation is better than potentially ripping baby after baby from their mother's arms as she repeatedly gets pregnant, is 'edgelord' behaviour?

You don't think bringing back one of the Nazi's showcase policies is edgelord behaviour?

Nope. I don't think that makes it inherently bad – not necessarily. The Nazis also built the autobahn, I believe. Is liking the autobahn edgelord behaviour?
You can't just argue 'bad because Nazi!' to try to shut people up – you need to state actual reasons.

Personally, I think that locking someone up in prison until menopause just to stop them getting pregnant, or letting them get pregnant over and over and taking their babies away every time, is actually much crueller than sterilisation. It should at least be offered in these cases, along with a sentence discount.

Yes and I wonder who'd be making excuses for a man who did something as horrific as this.