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AIBU to wonder whether ADHD is normal and society is the issue

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LadyBeatriceBeaHiggins · 31/07/2026 13:47

No offence intended

Discussing about Adhd with a friend who has Adhd and we wondered what if Adhd is naturally a part of being human and its the way society trys to make humans into machines that is the problem ?

so figured id open up our debate for fellow mumsnetters

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SixtySomething · 04/08/2026 23:27

catwithasunhat · 04/08/2026 19:27

Were they all really badly malnourished? How did they get enough protein? Although from googling this it sounds like this was during periods of subsistence/hardship and not necessarily all the time. The poor must have eaten a wide enough range of nutrients that they were strong enough to do the manual jobs that most of them did, surely? Even with a lot of bread to make up the calorie requirements.

I think that yes, very many people were badly malnourished, particularly town dwellers. Remember the shock in WW1 when the army medicals found so many of the young men turning up to enlist were not fit enough to serve as soldiers.
I think that's why they started free school milk.

catwithasunhat · 04/08/2026 23:29

SixtySomething · 04/08/2026 23:27

I think that yes, very many people were badly malnourished, particularly town dwellers. Remember the shock in WW1 when the army medicals found so many of the young men turning up to enlist were not fit enough to serve as soldiers.
I think that's why they started free school milk.

Ah, yes, I only read about that recently actually. I'm sure malnutrition has been an issue in most places throughout history.

ScrollingLeaves · 05/08/2026 08:59

Whatafustercluck · 04/08/2026 22:34

Ds is also erring towards becoming a PTI in the RAF, after 6th form and possibly university (sports studies). He'd need to be medication free for 12 months before being considered though. He's also considered PE teacher and policing.

@Whatafustercluck Is it the medication rather than the condition that is a barrier to getting in?

BertieBotts · 05/08/2026 09:14

I have to say, the life of a 1960s housewife sounds like utter torture to me 😅

Weren't half of them on valium or bennies just to cope with it? And chain-smoking (nicotine is actually a v effective treatment for ADHD apparently, just much too addictive to prescribe clinically unless there is no other alternative).

But also with my point about a lot of people in previous generations with ADHD being "hidden" you're assuming that someone even got to the point of being a housewife. That means a fair amount of being respectable and having a husband who was respectable enough to hold down a job. A lot of people with ADHD are drawn to others in relationships who have similar personality traits. You only have to look at something like Call the Midwife (which I know is not a documentary) to see there were plenty of other things young women did other than being dutiful housewifes who spent all Tuesday scrubbing a step because their neighbours were doing it.

Pqrl0ur · 05/08/2026 11:03

ScrollingLeaves · 05/08/2026 08:59

@Whatafustercluck Is it the medication rather than the condition that is a barrier to getting in?

It varies on a case by case basis. ADHD often has co morbidities such as OCD, autism etc.

The key thing is young people getting the help they need. Hiding conditions and avoiding treatments is dangerous as regards MH and being in the forces.

likelysuspect · 05/08/2026 15:54

catwithasunhat · 04/08/2026 22:34

I couldn't function when I was malnourished - I was even worse than now and I can't function now due to my ADHD and various other conditions. There were probably plenty who weren't ok and who couldn't do the work. There has always been some sort of support but before the state it came from the churches/parishes/monasteries or else individuals who couldn't function would have been supported/subsidised by family I suppose. And another group, as you say, would have ust about managed but would have died very young.

People in poverty in this country in history and around the world now live with various deficience, are underweight, have rickets and all sorts. Believe me though they are doing (or were doing) manual work.

Some deficiences in the old days would have literally killed people off so they wouldnt be the ones surviving and carrying on but you only have to look at pictures of people from 'olden times' to see they looked hugely unwell, deformities, bowed out legs, white as a sheet sometimes, the lot.

likelysuspect · 05/08/2026 15:58

SixtySomething · 04/08/2026 23:27

I think that yes, very many people were badly malnourished, particularly town dwellers. Remember the shock in WW1 when the army medicals found so many of the young men turning up to enlist were not fit enough to serve as soldiers.
I think that's why they started free school milk.

Yes and much later contributed to accepting that we need free medical care (NHS)

Ive got a lovely poster encouraging people to sign up for the First World War at the bottom it says 'bad teeth not a barrier'.

catwithasunhat · 05/08/2026 16:18

likelysuspect · 05/08/2026 15:54

People in poverty in this country in history and around the world now live with various deficience, are underweight, have rickets and all sorts. Believe me though they are doing (or were doing) manual work.

Some deficiences in the old days would have literally killed people off so they wouldnt be the ones surviving and carrying on but you only have to look at pictures of people from 'olden times' to see they looked hugely unwell, deformities, bowed out legs, white as a sheet sometimes, the lot.

Yes, I'm sure some of them were. All very sad though.

Bushmillsbabe · 06/08/2026 10:34

Whatafustercluck · 04/08/2026 22:34

Ds is also erring towards becoming a PTI in the RAF, after 6th form and possibly university (sports studies). He'd need to be medication free for 12 months before being considered though. He's also considered PE teacher and policing.

Physiotherapy is another good option - several members of our team have ADHD and excel. Yes, there is some desk work (writing notes) but it's for a few mins at a time, then actively moving and engaging with people. A couple struggle a bit with time management, but their laptops have reminder prompts set to keep on schedule.

Whatafustercluck · 06/08/2026 16:23

ScrollingLeaves · 05/08/2026 08:59

@Whatafustercluck Is it the medication rather than the condition that is a barrier to getting in?

It's the medication primarily. But he'd also need to show that he can cope without it, and that there is no anxiety, or other mental health conditions associated with it.

Whatafustercluck · 06/08/2026 16:36

Bushmillsbabe · 06/08/2026 10:34

Physiotherapy is another good option - several members of our team have ADHD and excel. Yes, there is some desk work (writing notes) but it's for a few mins at a time, then actively moving and engaging with people. A couple struggle a bit with time management, but their laptops have reminder prompts set to keep on schedule.

I'm not sure he'll get the science grades for it. His MTG is 6-6 but he's currently predicted 4-4 (though I think he'll have achieved 5-5 in his Y10 mocks when he gets his results). He'll need 6 or above to continue science at 6th form.

Bushmillsbabe · 06/08/2026 20:04

Whatafustercluck · 06/08/2026 16:36

I'm not sure he'll get the science grades for it. His MTG is 6-6 but he's currently predicted 4-4 (though I think he'll have achieved 5-5 in his Y10 mocks when he gets his results). He'll need 6 or above to continue science at 6th form.

There is also the apprenticeship route. Apply to be a physio assistant, and if do well, a few staff are offered opportunity to do degree via apprenticeship, which has the benefit that also paid while doing.

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