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People who believe in ghosts

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Sheandhercat · 29/07/2026 09:27

MIL came back from a trip to Edinburgh and told us of a “really spooky” thing that happened that MUST have been a ghost because there’s no other explanation. She was walking in a field, no other people around, and she got a whiff of strong rose perfume. That’s it. She said that plus another occasion where her cat was looking at something on the wall when there wasn’t anything there have her convinced that ghosts are real.

I try not to engage in these conversations with my opinion really because people can believe in whatever they want to and it’s pointless getting into a debate about it, because if someone’s already made up their mind it’s hard to convince them otherwise. But she asked me if I’d ever had anything happen and I said no I don’t believe in ghosts. This lead to a conversation where she just kept saying “well go on then, give me one possible explanation for the perfume if it’s not a ghost!” And I was giving explanations that she just wouldn’t accept. How does someone think it’s impossible that someone was around wearing perfume and the wind was just wafting the smell over, but it’s perfectly plausible and OBVIOUS that perfume has transcended into the afterlife and a ghost is the only possible option?!

even if there was no possible explanation I could think of, I still wouldn’t jump to “it must be a ghost” I’d just accept that I don’t know the answer. I don’t understand why it HAS to be a ghost when it just makes no sense. I’m just curious, how many people actually believe in ghosts and why?

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Thebinisrightthere · Today 18:53

I don't believe in ghosts because I just don't see hiw it is possible for them to exist, particularly dreased in clothes, moving & talking. How is it possible? They're not in their bodies any more so how can it move?

auntiemaryhadaredcanary · Today 19:07

Thebinisrightthere · Today 18:53

I don't believe in ghosts because I just don't see hiw it is possible for them to exist, particularly dreased in clothes, moving & talking. How is it possible? They're not in their bodies any more so how can it move?

The easiest way to explain it is that you are seeing a hologram, a projection that isn't really there.
'Why' is a whole other discussion.

ThatLemonBee · Today 19:16

I know spirits are real , there was a post a while back and I explained why … not getting into it with a skeptic but as someone who always saw them your Mil story might make more sense

Gwenna · Today 19:18

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 29/07/2026 10:52

I don't believe in ghosts. I'm an atheist, I believe when you're dead you're dead, there's nothing after it. Ghosts aren't real.

I've also experienced two hauntings in my life.

I spent three months being "watched" by something in my home. I'd catch sight of a figure out of the corner of my eye, usually jump out of my fucking skin, and when I turned to look at it, nothing was there. It'd happen while me and DP were watching TV, or it'd be standing at the bottom of the stairs as I came down, or in a doorway as I walked past. Usually about once a day for those 3 months.

During that time I also saw DP standing at an upstairs window as I approached the house, but she was sat on the sofa when I got in. She couldn't have got downstairs in that time, I could see the stairs through the frosted glass in the front door.

Something also spent a fun evening lobbing a teaspoon around my kitchen. I'm upstairs, hear something fall, come downstairs and it's on the floor. Pick it up, put it on the side. Start walking back upstairs and hear it again. Come back and it's on the opposite counter to the one I put it on. So I take it upstairs with me, put it on my computer desk and carry on gaming. About half an hour later, I hear the noise again. The spoon isn't on my desk, it's on the kitchen floor again. I'd been home alone all this time.

All of the above screams ghost right? Probably not. I was going through the most stressful period of my life at the time. My Mum was dying, DP and I were going through a rough patch, and redundancies were looming at work. Given a choice between ghost or me losing my marbles? I'm going for the second one.

The second one was actually a few years earlier, but is harder to explain. While I was a student I worked at my universities library. We used to shut at 10 in those days, and anyone working at closing had to wander round the buildings and kick out anyone still there. (I swear some students actually wanted to be locked in!) The law library was connected to the main library, but was a much older building. For reasons I'll explain that will become clear, no-one ever wanted to be the one down there at that time of night. As I was often the only able-bodied male working, I tended to end up drawing the short straw.

You'd hear things down there. Footsteps, people talking. Never loud enough to actually make out words, but definitely hushed conversation. You'd assume there were students in there so you'd wander round looking for them. Never anyone in there (noone liked being in there at that time of night, not even the students). I used to feel like someone was playing a trick on me. You'd hear stuff from one direction, head that way and it'd come from somewhere else entirely. I figured it was sound travelling through the vents or something, and then gradually got more annoyed with people, assumed another staff member was playing silly buggers when all I wanted to do was go home.

So one of the porters (basically security, although they all seemed about 80 years old. I've forgotten his name, so we'll call him Clive), said he'd lock us in one night, and we'd see if it happened while no-one was around. So 10 o'clock rolls around, and we set up shop down there. There'd been no weirdness at closing time that night, and there wasn't as we sat in the dark, reading our books and chatting quietly. 11 o'clock rolls around, then 12. Nothing. I'm mentally thinking I'm vindicated, that it has been someone pissing about, that I'm going to throw a proper strop at whoevers responsible. Thats when I hear a very clear "Why are you still here?" Young womans voice, close by. I assume I'd drifted off to sleep. But Clives looking at me with wild eyes. We both get up, and start walking the aisles. We don't hear anything so clear again, but we do get the usual. Footsteps, conversation. Half an hour goes by and we find nothing. So we head home, locking up as we go. If there is anyone still there then they're either getting stuck for the night or will have to get out through a fire escape.

Clives back the next morning to open up. I'm not, I'm a student, I don't get up before 8am for anyone. Noones in there when he opens the library.

I find that one much harder to explain away. It wasn't just me who experienced it, others did too. I work in the uni again now, although in a different building. I asked when I went to get my ID card from the library whether people still experience it. The library is open 24 hours these days, so no-one needs to venture into the law library late at night. People do still hear stuff down there though.

Still don't believe it's a ghost though.

Brilliant tales, @VimesandhisCardboardBoots ! Don’t worry - the ghosts believe in you 👻😁

Futurehappiness · Today 19:19

My experience was very weird - though spoiler, it is possible to explain it away.

I was driving across France with my family & towards the late afternoon we were driving through country roads looking for a hotel to have dinner & spend the night. We found a potential one - not some gloomy forbidding Gothic place, a regular bright modern building quite large.

We parked our car (the car park was full of cars) and walked into reception. Doors wide open but nobody there behind the desk. It was disconcerting to see nobody in what should normally be a bustling busy space at that time of day. We looked around a little, called out, looked down corridors, not a soul to be seen anywhere. So we wandered around a little more to try to find someone and walked into a dining room. It was maybe about 3-4pm which was an odd time for a main meal but we found all the tables set, with food & dozens of place settings, and a buffet on the side The food was still hot, the knives & forks were on the plates and it looked as though the food on them was half eaten. It looked as though the people were in the middle of a meal then just suddenly put their knives & forks down, upped & left. Being there, we all felt a real chill.

We came out, had a look round the car park (nobody there either), gave up & left.

No I don't automatically gravitate to thinking there must be a supernatural reason, I still think there is likely a logical explanation. It is possible they had to leave in a hurry perhaps due to a fire scare (though no fire alarm or signs of fire) or some other emergency (though why would they not just assemble outside, or drive away?) This place was in the middle of nowhere, so precisely where would dozens of people go? Maybe they were playing a practical joke on us, hiding in the trees.

But all the same, being there it was just so weird.

Gwenna · Today 19:19

Sheandhercat · 29/07/2026 09:27

MIL came back from a trip to Edinburgh and told us of a “really spooky” thing that happened that MUST have been a ghost because there’s no other explanation. She was walking in a field, no other people around, and she got a whiff of strong rose perfume. That’s it. She said that plus another occasion where her cat was looking at something on the wall when there wasn’t anything there have her convinced that ghosts are real.

I try not to engage in these conversations with my opinion really because people can believe in whatever they want to and it’s pointless getting into a debate about it, because if someone’s already made up their mind it’s hard to convince them otherwise. But she asked me if I’d ever had anything happen and I said no I don’t believe in ghosts. This lead to a conversation where she just kept saying “well go on then, give me one possible explanation for the perfume if it’s not a ghost!” And I was giving explanations that she just wouldn’t accept. How does someone think it’s impossible that someone was around wearing perfume and the wind was just wafting the smell over, but it’s perfectly plausible and OBVIOUS that perfume has transcended into the afterlife and a ghost is the only possible option?!

even if there was no possible explanation I could think of, I still wouldn’t jump to “it must be a ghost” I’d just accept that I don’t know the answer. I don’t understand why it HAS to be a ghost when it just makes no sense. I’m just curious, how many people actually believe in ghosts and why?

I’ve experienced tons and heard stories from many others over the years, so I do believe. I guess you’ll find out one day OP 😁

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 19:20

Don't even other trying.
Such people already believe, even if they say they don't. They Don't want the rational explanation, they want the woo. It's sort of similar to superstitions like salt and black cats.

Gwenna · Today 19:21

Futurehappiness · Today 19:19

My experience was very weird - though spoiler, it is possible to explain it away.

I was driving across France with my family & towards the late afternoon we were driving through country roads looking for a hotel to have dinner & spend the night. We found a potential one - not some gloomy forbidding Gothic place, a regular bright modern building quite large.

We parked our car (the car park was full of cars) and walked into reception. Doors wide open but nobody there behind the desk. It was disconcerting to see nobody in what should normally be a bustling busy space at that time of day. We looked around a little, called out, looked down corridors, not a soul to be seen anywhere. So we wandered around a little more to try to find someone and walked into a dining room. It was maybe about 3-4pm which was an odd time for a main meal but we found all the tables set, with food & dozens of place settings, and a buffet on the side The food was still hot, the knives & forks were on the plates and it looked as though the food on them was half eaten. It looked as though the people were in the middle of a meal then just suddenly put their knives & forks down, upped & left. Being there, we all felt a real chill.

We came out, had a look round the car park (nobody there either), gave up & left.

No I don't automatically gravitate to thinking there must be a supernatural reason, I still think there is likely a logical explanation. It is possible they had to leave in a hurry perhaps due to a fire scare (though no fire alarm or signs of fire) or some other emergency (though why would they not just assemble outside, or drive away?) This place was in the middle of nowhere, so precisely where would dozens of people go? Maybe they were playing a practical joke on us, hiding in the trees.

But all the same, being there it was just so weird.

I’ve heard stories about time slips that are a bit like that. In the absence of any plausible physical explanations, a time slip is a possibility.

Gwenna · Today 19:22

Thebinisrightthere · Today 18:53

I don't believe in ghosts because I just don't see hiw it is possible for them to exist, particularly dreased in clothes, moving & talking. How is it possible? They're not in their bodies any more so how can it move?

None of us are in our bodies 😎

Gwenna · Today 19:26

HenLen · Yesterday 03:03

Indeed.

People who would love to believe that anything outwith their understanding can be understood and dismissed by our limited brains, bodies and senses come across as genuinely quite thoughtless. And often, frankly, a bit thick.

There are plenty of reasons why we don't question every single atom of the fabric of the universe, generally. We know we can't fly, as anyone who's attempted to walk out of a window instead of a door could testify, if they survived the attempt. It isn't practical to debate every nuance of our material existence, we just accept our own physical limitations for example, because to do otherwise is to risk harming ourselves and others.

But to attempt to shut down any debate about the unknowable nature of the supernatural and unseen is about self comfort, not being practical.

I don't bother engaging with them because their beliefs are set in stone and they can't be budged.

It's actually so simple to just say (and truly mean) "I don't know if ghosts exist" "I don't know if there's than that which we can experience with our limited vision and senses" and it's fine to add "And I have no real interest in the discussiont hanks". But OP instead wants to be patted on her back for refusing that logical, fair and uncontroversial stance.

Unless someone's charging you 50 quid to run a seance or otherwise interfering in your safety or day to day life the fair, reasonable and logical thing to do is just accept that the universe is vast, our knowledge is tiny and truly accept that the words "I don't know" are the only rational ones relating to the supernatural.

There is a huge amount of anecdotal evidence, all throughout history, that there are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in our philosophy, to paraphrase the Bard.

Anecdotal evidence, by the way, is exactly and precisely how all knowledge was passed down to us until very recently. Without the acceptance of it we'd have no history at all, and prior to the written word, we'd have had to re-learn how to invent the wheel, quite literally, each new generation.

People telling people their experiences has always counted as evidence. And, like all evidence, it can be weighed against their character and other factors and either accepted or dismissed.

But according to the "We just call a spade a spade" bumpkins, we know everything there is to know about the supernatural, right here and right now, and that's that.

Some people prefer the shelter of their limited knowledge of the universe. They're the ones who'd have calling the earth flat and shaking their heads sadly and laughing at all the round earthers a few hundred years ago.

As for me, I prefer the thoughtful, intelligent stance. When it comes to ghosts I know what I think, but really "I don't know".

Very well said!

Futurehappiness · Today 19:38

Gwenna · Today 19:21

I’ve heard stories about time slips that are a bit like that. In the absence of any plausible physical explanations, a time slip is a possibility.

That is one possibility @Gwenna . It was just the eeriest situation I have ever experienced. As I say there is very possibly a logical non-supernatural explanation but at the time, when I was there, I could not find a plausible one.

auntiemaryhadaredcanary · Today 19:42

Futurehappiness · Today 19:38

That is one possibility @Gwenna . It was just the eeriest situation I have ever experienced. As I say there is very possibly a logical non-supernatural explanation but at the time, when I was there, I could not find a plausible one.

Here's one from Liverpool - https://www.spookyisles.com/time-slips-bold-street-liverpool/#google_vignette

Futurehappiness · Today 20:17

Scientists - and those who pride themselves as being scientifically-minded and rejecting irrational things - are just as inclined as anyone else to accept things as completely true based the knowledge of the time to the exclusion of all else, as any of us.

Just to raise a fairly random example: Ignaz Semmelweis. He was the doctor who in the 1840s realised that simple hand-washing by the medical staff on a maternity hospital drastically reduced the death rate from 'childbed' fever among new mothers. At the time he didn't understand why it worked but the statistics spoke for themselves.

So after that the medical profession accepted the importance of hand-washing based on the overwhelming evidence, and it became standard medical practice.

Just kidding: no it didn't. Other medical professionals rejected Semmelweis's findings, the jist of their argument being 'Doctors are gentlemen, and gentlemen have clean hands. How dare you claim otherwise?' That and nobody wanting to believe that there is some invisible poison making people ill, which went against the medical theory of the time. And also that (understandably) the doctors wouldn't want to admit they had inadvertently killed their patients.

A few decades later with the arrival of germ theory, it turned out that Semmelweis had been right all along (not that it did him any good though; he had died a broken man in an asylum).

This is a long story (apologies) but it illustrates a few things:

  • Scientifically minded people are just as susceptible as the rest of us to being credulous and gullible, and are quite capable of disregarding substantial evidence if they can't make sense of it (not to disparage them - just to state that they are human);
  • The scientific method, despite its recent phenomenal success in delivering benefits to us, is not infallible. It is only as good as the human beings applying it;
  • It is possible that science has not yet caught up with hitherto unexplored phenomena. Or it may not be the only available method of uncovering truth.

So, best to keep an open mind.

Futurehappiness · Today 20:18

auntiemaryhadaredcanary · Today 19:42

That is just so weird @auntiemaryhadaredcanary

ThisISmycircusandtheseAREmymonkeys · Today 20:52

HenLen · Yesterday 03:03

Indeed.

People who would love to believe that anything outwith their understanding can be understood and dismissed by our limited brains, bodies and senses come across as genuinely quite thoughtless. And often, frankly, a bit thick.

There are plenty of reasons why we don't question every single atom of the fabric of the universe, generally. We know we can't fly, as anyone who's attempted to walk out of a window instead of a door could testify, if they survived the attempt. It isn't practical to debate every nuance of our material existence, we just accept our own physical limitations for example, because to do otherwise is to risk harming ourselves and others.

But to attempt to shut down any debate about the unknowable nature of the supernatural and unseen is about self comfort, not being practical.

I don't bother engaging with them because their beliefs are set in stone and they can't be budged.

It's actually so simple to just say (and truly mean) "I don't know if ghosts exist" "I don't know if there's than that which we can experience with our limited vision and senses" and it's fine to add "And I have no real interest in the discussiont hanks". But OP instead wants to be patted on her back for refusing that logical, fair and uncontroversial stance.

Unless someone's charging you 50 quid to run a seance or otherwise interfering in your safety or day to day life the fair, reasonable and logical thing to do is just accept that the universe is vast, our knowledge is tiny and truly accept that the words "I don't know" are the only rational ones relating to the supernatural.

There is a huge amount of anecdotal evidence, all throughout history, that there are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in our philosophy, to paraphrase the Bard.

Anecdotal evidence, by the way, is exactly and precisely how all knowledge was passed down to us until very recently. Without the acceptance of it we'd have no history at all, and prior to the written word, we'd have had to re-learn how to invent the wheel, quite literally, each new generation.

People telling people their experiences has always counted as evidence. And, like all evidence, it can be weighed against their character and other factors and either accepted or dismissed.

But according to the "We just call a spade a spade" bumpkins, we know everything there is to know about the supernatural, right here and right now, and that's that.

Some people prefer the shelter of their limited knowledge of the universe. They're the ones who'd have calling the earth flat and shaking their heads sadly and laughing at all the round earthers a few hundred years ago.

As for me, I prefer the thoughtful, intelligent stance. When it comes to ghosts I know what I think, but really "I don't know".

It's actually so simple to just say (and truly mean) "I don't know if ghosts exist" "I don't know if there's than that which we can experience with our limited vision and senses" and it's fine to add "And I have no real interest in the discussiont hanks". But OP instead wants to be patted on her back for refusing that logical, fair and uncontroversial stance.

I love your post. My now adult daughter told me how much she appreciated that when she was younger she asked me if I believed in God or life after death I told her that I don’t know. I may believe one thing, but it doesn’t mean you need to believe the same because noone knows what is true or not. Noone. Scientist or priest, doesn’t matter. Noone knows.

She said her friend had asked her mum the same thing, and the mum (atheist) had told her dd that ”in our family we don’t believe in God or life after death because there is no such thing.”

Kimmers4334 · Today 20:53

I wouldn’t automatically think a ghost if I smelled roses in a field. Why and how would a ghost wear perfume? If we could smell ghosts, wouldn’t we be able to smell the BO from medieval ghosts constantly? Also roses grow in hedgerows, so that is a simple explanation. But I was sitting in my garden earlier and smelled a waft of shit but both my cats were inside, so might’ve been a ghost fart

pag3turn3r · Today 20:54

HenLen · Today 15:30

Lol. Try typing in "paranormal videos that prove ghosts are real" - and then you can watch weeks worth of videos and decide in advance they're all crap anyway, because your mind is completely closed and no matter what the evidence you'd decide that wasn't "scientific" enough for you 😅

It's fine you need to be hard line anti- supernatural. I don't mind.

the ones I've seen look fake

ButterChurn · Today 20:54

I’ve gone on multiple ghost hunting things and honestly, the desperation I have seen from people trying to act as if something has happened is mad 😂 I am not saying people who believe are mad, but those running the tours pretending it’s freezing suddenly in the room and everyone else is perfectly
comfortable not feeling a thing - give over, we know you’re acting, it’s very poor!

I don’t believe but I love the ideas of beasts in the night (hence the ghost huntings). I think the brain is a complicated thing we don’t fully understand and that is the culprit for a lot of ‘woo’ things. But if it brings people comfort then that’s all good. I can’t criticise anyone for their beliefs at all, you do whatever you need to to make life comforting. If it’s a god, or an afterlife, or ghosts or angels, it’s personal to you. What we do need to stop doing is forcefully thrusting these things onto others - from both sides.

ButterChurn · Today 20:59

ThisISmycircusandtheseAREmymonkeys · Today 20:52

It's actually so simple to just say (and truly mean) "I don't know if ghosts exist" "I don't know if there's than that which we can experience with our limited vision and senses" and it's fine to add "And I have no real interest in the discussiont hanks". But OP instead wants to be patted on her back for refusing that logical, fair and uncontroversial stance.

I love your post. My now adult daughter told me how much she appreciated that when she was younger she asked me if I believed in God or life after death I told her that I don’t know. I may believe one thing, but it doesn’t mean you need to believe the same because noone knows what is true or not. Noone. Scientist or priest, doesn’t matter. Noone knows.

She said her friend had asked her mum the same thing, and the mum (atheist) had told her dd that ”in our family we don’t believe in God or life after death because there is no such thing.”

I tell my DC that I don’t believe but it’s up to others what they believe and I openly discuss religion with him in a non-critical way. I think that if we remain open-minded then we can be more open-armed, if you get me. Personally, I think that Christianity has done a lot of damage in the past (and other religions but due to the nature of my work I am more familiar with the erasure of other beliefs and communities due to Christianity) but I rarely ever say that out loud because it’s my opinion and not what others may want to hear.

ThisISmycircusandtheseAREmymonkeys · Today 21:10

ButterChurn · Today 20:59

I tell my DC that I don’t believe but it’s up to others what they believe and I openly discuss religion with him in a non-critical way. I think that if we remain open-minded then we can be more open-armed, if you get me. Personally, I think that Christianity has done a lot of damage in the past (and other religions but due to the nature of my work I am more familiar with the erasure of other beliefs and communities due to Christianity) but I rarely ever say that out loud because it’s my opinion and not what others may want to hear.

I get what you mean and I agree. My dd is an atheist. But very open-minded.

IStillHearTheWaves · Today 21:42

No, I don't believe in ghosts, but it's a big tourism business in Edinburgh. Ghost walks are advertised all over the place, so if you're at all suggestible, I can imagine ot would plant the idea in your subconscious.

Seasonofthesticks · Today 22:32

CustardySergeant · 29/07/2026 13:37

Me too, but the sing is from 60 years ago, so I wouldn't expect people younger than me (I'm 72) to have recognised the reference.

A band called smash mouth (?) covered it for the movie Shrek, so a lot of people know it.

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