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My boyfriend’s mum still has a tracker on his phone… he’s 31

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TryingNotToJudgeMyBf · Yesterday 12:09

I’ve been seeing my boyfriend for just under a year and, overall, he’s lovely. Kind, funny, has a good job, owns his own place. I genuinely thought I’d found one of the good ones.Then something happened last weekend that has completely thrown me.

We were out for dinner about 45 minutes from where we live when his phone rang. He glanced at it, sighed and said, “It’s Mum.”
He answered and the first thing she said was, “Why are you in Oxford? I thought you were just going into town.”

I laughed because I assumed she’d seen a photo on social media or something. But after he hung up I asked how she knew where we were. He looked at me as if it was completely normal and said, “Oh, she can see my location.” I asked if he’d shared it with her because we were meeting up afterwards “No,” he said. “She’s always had it. Apparently she set it up years ago “for safety” when he first moved away from home, and neither of them has ever turned it off.
I said that was unusual for a 31 year old man. He shrugged and said, “It makes her happy.”

The next morning we decided to drive to the coast on a whim. About halfway there his phone buzzed. His mum had texted: “Didn’t realise you liked Brighton. Weather’s nicer where you are than here.” An hour later another message: “You’re parked a long way from the seafront.” Then “Are you staying overnight? I hope you’ve booked somewhere decent.”

When we got back to the hotel, he admitted she checks his location “a few times a day”. He laughed and said she gets worried if he stays in one place for too long because she wonders if he’s been in an accident.

He confessed she also has alerts set up so she gets notified when he arrives at work and when he gets home. Apparently she texted him once asking why he’d left work at 2pm.
He’d gone to the dentist. Then I found out she’s rung him before because she saw he was at a retail park and wanted him to pop into M&S for her.

A couple of days ago I was at his flat when the doorbell rang. His mum had popped round completely unannounced. When he asked why she’d come over she said “Well, your location said you were home and you hadn’t replied to my text.” She genuinely couldn’t understand why that might be crossing a line.

My boyfriend insists it’s harmless, says she’s just anxious, and thinks I’m making a mountain out of a molehill. He says, “If you’ve got nothing to hide, why does it matter if she knows where I am?” I’ve tried explaining that it’s not about hiding anything and that it’s about having some privacy and boundaries as an adult.

Then yesterday, he casually asked if I’d be willing to share my location with him permanently because “it would make things easier.” When I asked why, he admitted his mum had suggested it so she’d know where both of us were if we were together.

AIBU to think this is completely bizarre, or is this more common than I realise?

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FreebieWallopFridge · Yesterday 13:21

Runs bloody mile OP. I guarantee this will be the tip of the iceberg.

Velvetandleather · Yesterday 13:22

I can see where my daughter is on life 360, she’s late 20s. And she can see where I am. Neither of us actively track each other and I’d never dream of doing what this dudes mother does. I tend to look at it if she’s out late to reassure myself she has got home ok. And she tends to look at it for me, as does my husband, when I’m travelling for work outwith the uk.

so for us it’s a safety thing. We are certainly not intrusive about it. I’ve never ever said why are you in x place or where she parked or used it to come round when she’s home. She does tend to ask me if I’ve forgot to say I’m travelling she will message and say why you at the airport, or if I’m travelling in the uk. She will say why you in x place, you ok.

as a family it works for us, but only as we don’t use it as a way to actively track

SapphireSeptember · Yesterday 13:22

Nope, my mum doesn't track me, I'm a grown arse adult. I'd hate it. I don't track her either. Unless someone is vulnerable in some way it seems ridiculous.

All the people saying it's normal? It's bloody not normal!

Throwntothewolves · Yesterday 13:28

Location sharing is fine until it's used in this manner. Surely the way she questions him, or just turns up bothers him. He's pretty much in a controlling relationship with her now.
Don't share your location with him (or her), he'll start behaving the same way toward you.

I wouldn't use Life360 to question my teenager's whereabouts in such a way, it's a breach of trust.

BeetrootLentilsGoatsCheese · Yesterday 13:28

LordFarquard · Yesterday 12:27

I have never had a tracker on my phone, but some of this sounds like my mother.

You’re not wrong to dislike this but you should remember that these issues are his mother’s and not your boyfriend’s.

Your BF probably knows she’s overbearing and has inappropriate boundaries but he also knows that getting her to change will probably make things worse. People with parents like this are able to manage their situations to minimise the disruption to their life. If she is like this when he is 31, imagine what she was like when he was 21! Speaking from experience, he likely welcomes this current version of his mother because the versions which came before were genuinely intolerable.

If he takes the location off, I wouldn’t put it past his mother to suddenly need him to text every hour, or to turn up at his door twice a day.

My mother used to drive to the end of my sibling’s road to see if their car was parked on the drive - just so she knew they were home. If they weren’t she would start calls and texts. It comes from a place of ignorance.

Mumsnet is full of “you have a DX problem” but these posters never stop to consider the reality of dealing with difficult people and the desire we all have to keep our loved ones happy. You see that from all the “go no contact” posts whenever someone’s MIL does something mildly irritating.

I understand what you are saying that the boyfriend is "managing" his mother as best as he can / as best as he knows how to.

However, imagine if this DM became OP's MIL in future. The DM's behaviours would not suddenly change. It would therefore naturally impact OP's life.

I am another one saying she should run because unless the boyfriend has rock solid boundaries - and I mean rock solid - if the relationship continues this will affect OP and not in a good way.

The DM is already asking OP to be added to the app! No way would I agree to being monitored like that, at girlfriend stage.

Cosyblankets · Yesterday 13:28

poolaid · Yesterday 12:28

Indeed.

I don't believe the story. It would have happened before now and given that she says he appears to think it's no big deal he wouldn't have hidden it.

misobeautiful · Yesterday 13:29

Read about maternal enmeshment.

Velvetandleather · Yesterday 13:31

Throwntothewolves · Yesterday 13:28

Location sharing is fine until it's used in this manner. Surely the way she questions him, or just turns up bothers him. He's pretty much in a controlling relationship with her now.
Don't share your location with him (or her), he'll start behaving the same way toward you.

I wouldn't use Life360 to question my teenager's whereabouts in such a way, it's a breach of trust.

I think you’ve used the right words. For those who of us who have this, it’s just location sharing. The issue with this guy is his mother is actively tracking him. That’s a very different way to use it and not ok.

Britneyfan · Yesterday 13:31

I don’t get why there is so much hate for trackers. I’m in my late 40s and my mum, dad, siblings and son can all track me and I can (mostly!) track them. None of us really actually look at it much unless we are trying to meet up somewhere, or if there is a major event like a terrorist attack close to where one of us lives (we are all geographically very spread out).

I don’t obsess about these things but I did check once to see if my sister was anywhere near where a bomb had just gone off for example, as she goes through that area daily, but fortunately she was still at work.

We just find it convenient for meet-ups and also like to know that we can easily locate each other in an emergency situation. Like remember that car crash where the car was hidden off the road somewhere and the teenagers in it couldn’t be found for days despite a massive hunt by police? If they’d had location on their phones they’d have been found very quickly. Pre-mobile phones my dad’s brother was once stranded somewhere in a blizzard and almost died. You never quite know what might happen.

Nobody is forced to share their location with any of us if they don’t want to, my sister wants to know everyone’s location but refuses to share hers lol. My son is 19 and just finished his first year living away at uni, during COVID I had to work and leave him at home alone way younger than I’d ideally have liked to so I wanted to be able to check he’d made it home ok etc especially as he was rubbish at answering his phone! And we just never switched it off. I have said to him it’s completely his choice and if he wants to switch it off anytime he can, just tell me so I don’t panic. I don’t check it that often but especially if I haven’t heard from him for a while it does reassure me to see eg he has made it home ok after a late night out etc.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · Yesterday 13:35

This would be a deal breaker for me, not normal imo.

ChopstickNovice · Yesterday 13:35

I don't think having the tracking is that weird, however, constantly checking it and then commenting on where he is, that's REALLY weird....

seventeenofsumday · Yesterday 13:36

It's one thing having family on the app and using it to check if they're travelling long distance or coming to visit from a while away etc. But she must be opening the app regularly just to have a nosey at where he is, and then messaging about it. That's intrusive, she's not using it because she's worried about his safety or wanting to check him going a long journey, she's just being nosey and seeing where he is. I know a couple of instances where this has happened and for some reason it always seems the blokes who don't care so much, but for me personally if MIL is tracking where her son is, it feels like I'm also being tracked if we are together and I wouldn't like that. Sounds silly but if you're going to private medical appointments or clinics or whatever and she's having a nose on the app she will be messaging asking what you're at the hospital /doctors for!! I would have it so you can just turn it on and off. I don't have these apps but surely he can just turn off sharing location his end without having to bring it up with his mum?

ThatCyanCat · Yesterday 13:36

Are they called Bates? Do they run a motel?

Shinyandnew1 · Yesterday 13:37

Sharing locations with people very close to you is fine-the
constant texting showing she’s always tracking him isn’t!

I don’t get your last bit about her having your location though. Why does she need to have your location to see where you are when you’re together? Surely if he says, ‘I’m going to Brighton with X on Saturday’ then she can safely assume you will be together.

It sounds more like she wants to track you when you’re not together which is bizarre and stalkery.

say, ‘no, I don’t want to share my location with your mum. I don’t even share it with my own mum. I don’t want her tracking everywhere I go.’

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 13:38

GingerdeadMan · Yesterday 13:14

Phone notification is great for the people who care about their family members

You seem to be equating your abnormally excessive worry with 'care'. Its not, it's an intrusive burden for your nearest and dearest.

You should not expect them to accommodate your issues by being tracked so that you don't worry. Your worry is not their problem to fix. Your kids must be mortified at you ringing their mates to find out where they are!

ETA your dc have already tried to push back against you having notifications on them, and you've circumvented their boundaries by calling their mates. That is beyond unreasonable. You are effectively saying 'I don't care what you want, my needs take priority!'

Edited

You are absolutely right, I don't care what my children want in this respect. My peace of mind is my priority. I don't care who they are with, what they are doing. I just want to know they are alive, that is all. I have already made a massive concession - I don't track them.

godmum56 · Yesterday 13:38

Pixiedust49 · Yesterday 13:12

A few of my sisters and I share location with our elderly parents and we’re in our 50s and they’re in their 80s! Didn’t realise we were so odd 😂

I don't think that's odd at all, its the constant checking and commenting that's odd.

DearDenimEagle · Yesterday 13:39

The idea of tracking any of my grown sons gives me the ick. They often WhatsApp me with photos of where they are..can be a work job , or a sight from the car camera ..like a limited edition Aston Martin one drove past…or scenery from a day out somewhere, but tracking them? Ugh , that’s tantamount to stalking. I didn’t even do it when they were kids. One WhatsApps every morning to check I woke up alive, but that’s all the checking that’s done.
As for nosing into why they are where they are, that’s really sick , involving themselves into a relationship, turning up because they can …ugh

get rid
especially if he wants to get you involved in it ..makes my skin crawl

godmum56 · Yesterday 13:39

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 13:38

You are absolutely right, I don't care what my children want in this respect. My peace of mind is my priority. I don't care who they are with, what they are doing. I just want to know they are alive, that is all. I have already made a massive concession - I don't track them.

but how old are the children?

Schoolchoicesucks · Yesterday 13:40

I have my kids locations (and they have mine) but I'm at the stage of wondering about removing it from my eldest (almost 17) for his privacy. I do check locations if I'm wondering whether he'll be home for dinner, for my youngest if he hasn't messaged and not turned up at home to check if he's gone into town with friend after school.
At 31 and checking multiple times a day with no reason or need to is too much. And either him or her wanting to bring you into bonkers levels of tracking is not acceptable. At all.

If he's not bothered by her checking up on him all the time, it's tricky to know what to suggest. If I were him, I'd have removed the tracking (or at least set up some times when she could and couldn't see where I was) and reassure her that I would check in with her more frequently and let her know what my plans were and how I was doing.

Him suggesting you join in is concerning. He doesn't seem to realise how odd and controlling and pandering to her wishes it is.

ByCyanFinch · Yesterday 13:40

No this is very enmeshed and weird to me and wouldn't bode well for the future. We sometimes use WhatsApp location in our family but only ever for a practical purpose. For example I might ask my teenager to send me their location when they travel home late and need to be collected somewhere. I have no idea where my adult children are. It would feel like an invasion of privacy on both sides to permanently share locations.

Velvetandleather · Yesterday 13:41

SapphireSeptember · Yesterday 13:22

Nope, my mum doesn't track me, I'm a grown arse adult. I'd hate it. I don't track her either. Unless someone is vulnerable in some way it seems ridiculous.

All the people saying it's normal? It's bloody not normal!

I think maybe it’s the word track which is the issue. This woman is clearly actively tracking her son. Most people who have location sharing don’t do this. Because we respect each other. And aren’t we all vulnerable at some points. Me when I’m abroad on my own as a woman? I has a scary incident with a taxi driver a few weeks ago. My husband clearly couldn’t do anything but talk to me on the phone, but at least he knew exactly where I was. What about my daughter making her way home after a boozy night out on her own? What about my husband doing a five hour drive home after working 1o hours. None of us are vulnerable in ourselves, as people , but all of us at certain points are vulnerable.

as long as used correctly and respectfully , then it can only be a benefit

GingerdeadMan · Yesterday 13:41

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 13:38

You are absolutely right, I don't care what my children want in this respect. My peace of mind is my priority. I don't care who they are with, what they are doing. I just want to know they are alive, that is all. I have already made a massive concession - I don't track them.

Bloody hell. Good luck with that!

I assumed from context we were talking adult children/late teens - are you talking about 10 year olds?

At what point will their wishes be given as much consideration as your own, or do you expect then to be trackable for the rest of their lives?

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 13:41

godmum56 · Yesterday 13:39

but how old are the children?

Teens.

HidingFromSunshine · Yesterday 13:42

its the phonecalls and questioning that’s weirder than the tracking

godmum56 · Yesterday 13:42

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 13:41

Teens.

so not 31?