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I expect my husband to cook, clean and be an equal parent after he comes home from work, AIBU?

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constantchaos91 · Yesterday 09:32

DH and I have 2 DC, my daughter is 7, my son is 3. My husband works from 9-5, he doesn't work too far so he usually leaves the house at 8:45am and he gets home at around 5:15pm. I am a SAHM, my kids are also home educated so I am teaching them all day, I know it's the summer holidays but we home educate year round (Meaning we take breaks when we want to take breaks instead of having to follow a strict schedule). So I'm still home educating my kids even during the summer holidays.

Me and my husband have always had the mindset that we both work, he just gets paid to do his job. And we've both agreed that from 9-5 he works and does his job, I stay home and look after the kids, then from 5-9 we tag team parenting. He doesn't get to relax after work because I am also not relaxing after 5pm, once our kids are asleep at 9pm me and my husband relax. And also in the mornings, we are equal parents before he goes to work, he makes breakfast every day and we all clean up after breakfast.

So this means my husband and I take turns cooking dinner. One night he cooks, the next night I cook. Everybody in the house helps clean up after dinner. My husband washes his own clothes. We both equally parent the kids. We both hanle the bed time routine. Everybody in the house gives the house a quick tidy before the kids go to bed. My husband also equally carries the mental load of parenthood the second he walks through the front door. On Sundays we properly clean the house, like we hoover, mop, etc.

He has never had an issue with this, because he is parent too and this is his house too. However, I was speaking to another mum yesterday at the park. We were having a nice chat and she mentioned her husband, she said that it's crazy how many modern men cook and clean. To keep the conversation going I mentioned that my husband cooks and cleans, as I thought that when she said "crazy" I thought she meant that as disbelief but in a good way. Oh I was wrong. She then said that she could never imagine her husband cooking and cleaning because it's so amazing he provides for them and that she thinks the new "trend" of men having to still work after work is silly because providing for the family should be good enough. Basically she thinks it's ridiculous when a man is expected to cook and clean and parent when he has already worked for hours during the day. I did just laugh it off and try to make a joke out of the situation and I said "Yeah my poor husband"

But now I've spent all night wondering if I truly am being unreasonable. Expecting him to cook, clean and be an equal parent after he has spent all day working and providing for our family. I don't know, maybe those ladies words are just stuck in my head.

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MaIeficent · Today 01:42

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 22:12

Yanbu OP. You and your OH both sound like you are bossing life.

However, the responses in this thread have annoyed me a little. There seems to be this assumption that the OP and mums who homeschool are somehow more deserving of an OH who parents and contributes to the home, because when they are homeschooling they are also working. The implication being that stay at home mums who don’t homeschool aren’t ‘working’ and therefore should not expect their partner to contribute as much to the home and parenting. Why the demonisation of SAHM’’s? I’m not one, by the way, but SAHM’s of school age children aren’t sitting on their arses all day I’m sure! They are probably doing all the shopping, meal prepping, cooking, housework, laundry etc…. as well as parenting the children from 7-9 and 3 till whenever their partner gets home.

But you must've seen the threads in AIBU about 'changed my mind about returning to full time work, husband not happy'. Usually fishing for ammunition to use against said husband.

It's not that being a SAHM isn't sometimes difficult. It's that many women end up giving up FT work in their 30s and never returning while the husband spends another four decades in a stressful management job.

rainingsnoring · Today 02:48

YANBU. You have the DC with you all day and take full responsibility for their education as well as, presumably, doing some housework and meal preparation during the day. It sounds as if your arrangement works very well @constantchaos91.

If you were a SAHM with a couple of school aged children, the answer would be different as a SAHM(P) has plenty of time to get housework done during the day and relax/pursue hobbies/meet friends so the working DH (or DW) should be able to relax when they get home from work and not do 50/50 of the jobs.

rainingsnoring · Today 02:54

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 22:12

Yanbu OP. You and your OH both sound like you are bossing life.

However, the responses in this thread have annoyed me a little. There seems to be this assumption that the OP and mums who homeschool are somehow more deserving of an OH who parents and contributes to the home, because when they are homeschooling they are also working. The implication being that stay at home mums who don’t homeschool aren’t ‘working’ and therefore should not expect their partner to contribute as much to the home and parenting. Why the demonisation of SAHM’’s? I’m not one, by the way, but SAHM’s of school age children aren’t sitting on their arses all day I’m sure! They are probably doing all the shopping, meal prepping, cooking, housework, laundry etc…. as well as parenting the children from 7-9 and 3 till whenever their partner gets home.

People who work FT also have to do all those jobs too, combined with working. They don't take all day and a SAHP with just two children has a very relaxed life compared to most people who combine parenting and work. The parent who is working to support the whole family financially by his/herself also deserves to have some down time, otherwise why have a SAHP at all?

Justanothermum42 · Today 05:04

My husband is the same as your husband. It is shocking how few men pull their weight around the house. He works more than me and does more around the house (cleans, repairs, taxis kids, walks the dog…). I cook and do the laundry. He washes up most days . Of course the kids help. I find it ridiculous that other men do not help out. I still remember when a close friend said a couple of years back that she had to do all her weekend chores (cleaning, washing, ironing) on the Saturday as Sunday was Mother’s Day and her husband was taking her for a meal. I was gobsmacked!

Padz12 · Today 05:26

Even if you’re homeschooling you can still do more than your husband at home!
you Dont have the commute and even with a lunch break you can stick a wash on or wipe some surfaces down!

Cakeandcardio · Today 06:41

I work part time and do not home educate. I have a 6 year old (in school) and a 2 year old. My husband also does everything you descriibe because I am spending time with my children and I am not the hired help.

fuckeditupbadly · Today 08:47

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 22:12

Yanbu OP. You and your OH both sound like you are bossing life.

However, the responses in this thread have annoyed me a little. There seems to be this assumption that the OP and mums who homeschool are somehow more deserving of an OH who parents and contributes to the home, because when they are homeschooling they are also working. The implication being that stay at home mums who don’t homeschool aren’t ‘working’ and therefore should not expect their partner to contribute as much to the home and parenting. Why the demonisation of SAHM’’s? I’m not one, by the way, but SAHM’s of school age children aren’t sitting on their arses all day I’m sure! They are probably doing all the shopping, meal prepping, cooking, housework, laundry etc…. as well as parenting the children from 7-9 and 3 till whenever their partner gets home.

Its not demonisation but to suggest that a SAHM to NT in school children shouldn't do the bulk of running the home is a bit much.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · Today 08:56

rainingsnoring · Today 02:54

People who work FT also have to do all those jobs too, combined with working. They don't take all day and a SAHP with just two children has a very relaxed life compared to most people who combine parenting and work. The parent who is working to support the whole family financially by his/herself also deserves to have some down time, otherwise why have a SAHP at all?

If she's home schooling then she presumably doesn't have loads of time to relax either. So if she's home educating while he's at work why does he get to relax but not her?
I don't work but I have a child with profound autism who can't access full time education so he's at home most of the time.
I do most things around the house but I don't expect my husband to come home and lie on the sofa without doing anything because he's been at work all day. I have also been at work all day and keeping our DS is a huge and difficult job.
I'm really tired of the attitude of some people. The people who say "it's so easy being a SAHM" or working parents do everything SAHPs do" without thinking about the different reasons why someone might be staying at home. Home educating is a job, being a carer as well as a parent to a SEN child is a job without adding in all the housework. I'm glad you aren't my partner. You've been looking after the kids all day while I've been at work, well I deserve a break then and you don't. Do you actually think that's fair?

Soothedsoul · Today 08:56

Your set up sounds like it's working well so wouldn't worry about what one person said. The only thing I would question is, do you both decide which chores have to be done and when? I know a couple where for example, one insists they vacuum the house every single day whereas the other person would think it's acceptable to vacuum as needed or just a few times a week? One resents the other as they feel like they have to go along with doing it every day rather than relaxing. Just a thought but I guess it's ok if you are both on the same page with what you feel is necessary.

thatgreenjuniper · Today 09:01

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 22:12

Yanbu OP. You and your OH both sound like you are bossing life.

However, the responses in this thread have annoyed me a little. There seems to be this assumption that the OP and mums who homeschool are somehow more deserving of an OH who parents and contributes to the home, because when they are homeschooling they are also working. The implication being that stay at home mums who don’t homeschool aren’t ‘working’ and therefore should not expect their partner to contribute as much to the home and parenting. Why the demonisation of SAHM’’s? I’m not one, by the way, but SAHM’s of school age children aren’t sitting on their arses all day I’m sure! They are probably doing all the shopping, meal prepping, cooking, housework, laundry etc…. as well as parenting the children from 7-9 and 3 till whenever their partner gets home.

It's only because some women who "homeschool" need to convince others and themselves that it's an actual job, so they need to look down at others. I wouldn't worry about it.

rainingsnoring · Today 09:05

Stressedoutmummyof3 · Today 08:56

If she's home schooling then she presumably doesn't have loads of time to relax either. So if she's home educating while he's at work why does he get to relax but not her?
I don't work but I have a child with profound autism who can't access full time education so he's at home most of the time.
I do most things around the house but I don't expect my husband to come home and lie on the sofa without doing anything because he's been at work all day. I have also been at work all day and keeping our DS is a huge and difficult job.
I'm really tired of the attitude of some people. The people who say "it's so easy being a SAHM" or working parents do everything SAHPs do" without thinking about the different reasons why someone might be staying at home. Home educating is a job, being a carer as well as a parent to a SEN child is a job without adding in all the housework. I'm glad you aren't my partner. You've been looking after the kids all day while I've been at work, well I deserve a break then and you don't. Do you actually think that's fair?

Wow, a massive rant without even bothering to read my two posts. Do you think that is fair?
I wasn't talking about the OP! I was responding to the pp. I already said that I thought the OP's arrangement was more than reasonable. As you have a DC with profound autism who is unable to access education and are his carer, your situation is similar.

I was talking about a SAHM with healthy and non ND DC (the majority of DC) without other demands eg full time care of a parent. Those people should be doing all the household tasks, or the great majority, as they have significant free time during the day. It doesn't take all day to do the tasks the other poster listed because people who work FT also need to fit them all in.

PumpKim · Today 09:08

I think that sounds normal, you home school, so you're both working all day.

ByPinkOP · Today 09:44

YABU, to think the opinions of anyone outside of you and your husband matter when you are both seemingly happy with the set up

BettyJoanPerske · Today 10:07

OwlCalledSage · Yesterday 09:48

The fact you’re home schooling puts an entirely different spin on the balance and what is fair.

Indeed. If you were 'just' a SAHM I would actually not expect your husband to to half the household tasks outside of work (I don't mean he shouldn't do anything, just not the strict 50/50 that I would expect if both parents work outside the home) However, home schooling changes a lot.

BettyJoanPerske · Today 10:08

GrumpyPanda · Yesterday 09:56

YANBU for quite rightly retracing the principle of equal leisure time for both spouses but YABU for depriving your kids of a proper education.

Have you seen inside most schools lately? OP's kids have a head start.

Imlazyandiknowit99 · Today 10:49

GrumpyPanda · Yesterday 09:56

YANBU for quite rightly retracing the principle of equal leisure time for both spouses but YABU for depriving your kids of a proper education.

How ignorant of you to think that home educating children at home means they won't get a "proper education". By that you mean spending 8 hours a day in the same classroom, with 30 other kids, not allowed to go to the toilet when they want, mostly learning about absolutely pointless things that they'll never need again in life? My friends daughter is 12 and has just taken maths gcse, whereas at school she would never have done that

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