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Do people equate the global wild fires with global warming? Or is it still just weather?

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Greedybilly · 24/07/2026 22:28

What are your thoughts?
I'm finding the whole thing bloody terrifying and feel like we're all just sleep walking into a bit of a nightmare.

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Monty36 · Yesterday 17:39

Wolverine23 · Yesterday 17:35

As many as many Mediterranean countries and hot countries all over the globe, and they cope. Vineyards continue to thrive and humans are good at making it work. Thats why we are still here and will be for a long time yet. Nature is amazing. Humans with too much power and greed on the other hand are more of a concern.

I was wondering how many vineyards will be affected by the fires in France in particular. Bordeaux has loads of vineyards.

The prices will go up.

basketsmash · Yesterday 17:49

@Monty36I think you are a bit behind the times, very few countries have high birth rates now. Poorer countries have more dc and as countries get richer & more educated there is a switch. A child in Somalia does not have the same carbon footprint as a child in the west.

I don’t think it’s flippant, but I do think there is an element of racism. We must stop the poorer people having more dc and using global resources because we in the west need them more.

From an economic perspective if you want a smaller population, you don’t want a smaller & older one. You need youth.

basketsmash · Yesterday 17:50

The global fertility rate was approx 5 in the 50s and it’s now 2.2 ish. Birth rates have fallen

Wolverine23 · Yesterday 18:34

Monty36 · Yesterday 17:39

I was wondering how many vineyards will be affected by the fires in France in particular. Bordeaux has loads of vineyards.

The prices will go up.

It happens. It happens in sicily where I have family and honestly they survive. It's not pleasant but it happens to many med countries every year. My great grandma is nearly 100 she has some stories.

Monty36 · Yesterday 18:47

You were flippant. I am not behind the times. Nor am I a racist.

I don’t think it is racist to want to enhance people who live in abject grinding poverty in poor countries and to lift their standard of living.

The we need more people argument is mad. I understand the arguments in relation to looking after old people. But we need to find a different way.

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 19:01

Firefly1987 · 24/07/2026 23:19

We just need fewer humans. I'm hopeful now people are having fewer kids that'll help a lot. Anything else just feels like throwing deck chairs off the Titanic.

Population size is a factor but it is not a complete solution. We still have to reduce our energy consumption per person, especially of fossil fuels.

Your “deckchairs on the Titanic” comment makes it sound futile to invent new technologies and change policies. It isn’t. We know for example that insulating lofts saves energy as do numerous other routine initiatives. The UK government is in the process of approving solar panels that can go on balconies and supply free electricity to people’s homes via a standard socket. They will cost around £400 and payback will be approx 4 years.

MasterBeth · Yesterday 19:01

Wolverine23 · Yesterday 18:34

It happens. It happens in sicily where I have family and honestly they survive. It's not pleasant but it happens to many med countries every year. My great grandma is nearly 100 she has some stories.

Unless we curb global heating, the temperatures will continue to rise. Your grandmother will last her natural life. What about her grandchildren and great-grandchildren when the temperatures keep getting hotter?

basketsmash · Yesterday 19:09

@Monty36where have I said we need more people?

basketsmash · Yesterday 19:10

The west consumes a lot despite our lower birth rates, that’s the point!

HoppityBun · Yesterday 19:13

Wolverine23 · Yesterday 18:34

It happens. It happens in sicily where I have family and honestly they survive. It's not pleasant but it happens to many med countries every year. My great grandma is nearly 100 she has some stories.

It does not happen every year that French vinyards are razed to the ground by wildfires. This complacency is bewildering. I posted the link upthread to the NASA long term study that shows

NASA's Terra and Aqua satellites detect active wildfires twice each day. Scientists studied this data over a 21-year span and found that extreme wildfires have become more frequent, more intense, and larger. The largest increase in extreme fire behavior was in the temperate conifer forests of the Western U.S. and the boreal forests of northern North America and Russia. Warmer nighttime temperatures are a major contributing factor, allowing fire activity to persist overnight.

NASA-FIRMS

Fire Information for Resource Management System

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;@0.0,0.0,3.1z

Mojuu · Yesterday 19:23

AC will solve most things

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · Yesterday 19:27

The planet is in charge and if Mother Earth sees fit she will rid the planet of the parasites that humans seem to be. You can’t fight nature. It will do what it needs to do. If we don’t change then our time is up.

Mojuu · Yesterday 19:35

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · Yesterday 19:27

The planet is in charge and if Mother Earth sees fit she will rid the planet of the parasites that humans seem to be. You can’t fight nature. It will do what it needs to do. If we don’t change then our time is up.

Yeah right.

Mojuu · Yesterday 19:36

We easily fight nature by our technical engineering prowess and modifying the environmental to suit us as we see fit

frenchnoodle · Yesterday 19:56

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · Yesterday 19:27

The planet is in charge and if Mother Earth sees fit she will rid the planet of the parasites that humans seem to be. You can’t fight nature. It will do what it needs to do. If we don’t change then our time is up.

And when the powers combine, it calls fourth CAPTAIN PLANET!

MasterBeth · Yesterday 19:58

Mojuu · Yesterday 19:23

AC will solve most things

Are you planning to install AC outside?

Mojuu · Yesterday 20:20

MasterBeth · Yesterday 19:58

Are you planning to install AC outside?

Outdoor cooling exists

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