Do people equate the global wild fires with global warming? Or is it still just weather?

[Greedybilly]

What are your thoughts?
I'm finding the whole thing bloody terrifying and feel like we're all just sleep walking into a bit of a nightmare.

The thread asking where to fly in europe for £600 is particularly tone deaf

The weather is a result of global warming!

She's still going to go! I hope she has an amazing time. Let's assume there's a Ryanair flight to Lisbon in August. If op goes or doesn't go.....will the flight still be going ahead?

I don't have much to add to the discussion, just wanted to say thank you. If nothing else, there is solidarity in being terrified alongside each other. I'm so grateful that there are other people out there who care and are taking action, often more action than I do. Things are getting better gradually but we really need to push for things to change quicker. I would have thought that people couldn't deny it but clearly 19% are still deluded! The rest of us can make a difference though.

I would have thought that people couldn't deny it but clearly 19% are still deluded!

Please tell me how I am deluded? Please note I am a climate crisis activist.
Care to explain how fires started by arson and negligence by individual humans were started by the weather or climate change?

Has climate change done a number on the sanity of certain human fire starters?
Did a bad wind wafting from an active volcano cause psychosis so we can then blame the weather?

Please do tell.

Baler not baker!! Awful typo. Neither farmers are incompetent dickheads as you suggest. Both are responsible farmers with lifetimes of experience facing situations that are beyond what is normal.

Climage change is not starting the fires obviously, but it is creating the conditions where even a small fire becomes a catastrophic wildfire.

As I noted up thread, there have always been summer fires in the countryside caused by negligent idiots or accidents, I remember them well as a child growing up on a farm in tbe SE of England. The difference was they were, generally easily contained or even burnt out themselves. What we are seeing now is very different.

You are right op. I think most people must surely accept this is climate change/crisis in action.

What worries me a little is how quickly people go from understandable concerns about climate change to thinking we are immediately doomed and that life isn't worth living. There was someone on here recently, licking her chops about all the ways people were going to die in the UK in the immediate future due to climate change. And they were not sensible concerns it was just one of those weird things where some people seem to enjoy envisaging everyone's grisly ends. Nihilism taken to a pretty disgusting place.

There seems to be a section of people who care about climate change who will only accept the worst case scenario and I think that is a problem almost as bad as the issue of people saying it is "just weather". At least the "just weather" people continue being productive which may actually be more useful to the planet than the "aaaargh death, death and horror happening tomorrow to YOU" people.

The only way to save us is to vote in politicians who will tackle climate change brutally, but people won’t do this until their own house is on fire. Then maybe…

Tbf, the UK has done a pretty good job under Labour with Ed Milliband, of working towards net zero. It is the big polluting countries which are the problem; America and China. Although, we do still buy so much from China which could do with being knocked on the head. We obviously cannot vote in America or China. And I actually think there isn't a 'Green' party anymore. There is a far left party under Polanski, who would do significant damage if they ever came to power (which I think it is highly likely they will not).

The unfair part is that the people who pollute the least (developing countries) who will suffer the most and first. If we all lived like that, we wouldn't be in this position. But how do you get people to part with running water, electricity and central heating? People are already freaking out about not having air conditioning in the heat. People are already saying they wished they hadn't been born or that they wish they'd never had kids because of climate change when we have barely felt the effects.

Climate change worries me a lot, but some people's nihilistic reaction and complete lack of people able to cope with anything in this country worries me even more.

Totally agree. We need to clamp down on temu and shein and the like For multiple reasons including CC
also plagiarism
data collection and basically making this company extremely rich and weakening our own selling power for home produced products.

add to that human rights of workers for the company

Jeez

There have been hundreds of arrests in France for arson!

I have family in western Canada. They now have 2 seasons:

1. Winter (which is much warmer than it used to be - they're in BC and had almost no snow last winter when usually they get 6-8 feet, with temps 3-6 degrees higher than average on most days)
2. Fire season - when smoke fills the skies for weeks to months on end, any time from May to October and getting worse year on year

They're terrified of the future. All their large cedar trees are dead. Every year they fear their house will burn down. A town of 1000 close to them almost did a few nights ago, and it's not out of the woods yet.

Those claiming it is not linked to climate change, are either financially benefitting from O and G, in denial or just plain stupid.

Well fires are fire's could be global warming could not be, doesn't change the fact they exist so what good is it defining it? Does it make is stop them? Does saying it global warming do anything?

Again we need O&G....... People drive fossil fuel cars. And we need gas for so many things. Heat home. Industrial processes

And again we can adapt and invest in other fuels.

Aren't most wildfires started by humans? Or sometimes lightening. Obviously dry weather/lack of rain then causes them to spread rapidly but it's mostly stupid people who start them.

My internet search tells me 80-90% of the fires in Canada are human caused. Yes I admit the hotter temperatures probably make the chain reaction worse. But if you just don't start them....

When will these fuels achieve cost parity?

You could look yourself but renewable energy sources like onshore wind and solar have already met and surpassed the cost parity of new fossil fuel plants in most global markets.

According to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA), nine out of ten new grid-scale renewable projects generated electricity at a lower cost than the cheapest new fossil fuel-fired alternative. Onshore wind is the cheapest source of new power globally at an average levelised cost of electricity (LCOE) of USD 0.034/kWh, followed by solar PV at USD 0.043/kWh, both undercutting fossil fuel alternatives significantly.

Good good what is it with people? Yes climate change is not causing spontaneous fires, but the risk of fires - always present in summer due to dry vegetation and human stupidity/malice - is vastly vastly elevated by climate change due to prolonged dry weather, high temperatures and strong dry winds.

There are reports of a wild fire in Suffolk today that is leading to evacuations.

The fires rarely start naturally though, it's an idiot of a human that is responsible. A farmer lost a huge crop near us last week from someone throwing a cigarette butt out of a window as they passed.......

Yes the dry tinder available is very much increased, but if literally no humans deliberately lit fires or dropped litter, the fires occurring would be very much reduced. Risk - risk from what? Lightning, yep, but we don't get a lot of that in the UK, not 'dry lightning'. Other risk is mainly human. That's where the problem lies.