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To be so disappointed in Andy Burnham already ?

76 replies

CGRossetti · 24/07/2026 11:03

Letting the US use airbases in the UK for their despicable vile war, and raising the risk to innocent lives everywhere.

So much for change.

YABU - Bore off, I love a bit of senseless military action
YANBU - The UK should tell the US we want no part of your elective war.

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echt · 24/07/2026 11:04

Oh, do give over.

thisandthats · 24/07/2026 11:05

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Rock32 · 24/07/2026 11:10

It's understandable that people have different views on decisions like this. These situations are rarely straightforward, and it's probably worth waiting to see the full picture before judging too quickly. Whatever your opinion, it's a debate that affects everyone.

Happyhope · 24/07/2026 11:12

Its the same with any PM when their in no one wants them in there is always an issue.
Lucky me i dont give a hoot what happens who in whos out dont care.

Pinkflamingo10 · 24/07/2026 14:07

But he’s so handsome ❤️

Growlybear83 · 24/07/2026 14:13

I agree OP. We shouldn’t be supporting another illegal war.

mellongoose · 24/07/2026 14:16

Practical cooperation with military allies. Tick ✅

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 24/07/2026 14:18

I don't want the US using our air bases, but the guy hasn't even been in power for a week yet. I would rather that he takes the time to understand and consider any big decisions rather than rushing in to change everything without having really thought things through.

Nesbi · 24/07/2026 14:27

Our own national security is deeply intertwined with the US. Whilst ordinary people have the luxury of being black and white on issues like this, Prime Ministers - who actually have real responsibility for the country - have to be a bit more circumspect.

Compromise is usually the reality of politics, but this always gets some people really angry!

Xanhi · 24/07/2026 14:32

We can't afford defense and the NHS, so we need America.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/07/2026 14:36

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 24/07/2026 14:18

I don't want the US using our air bases, but the guy hasn't even been in power for a week yet. I would rather that he takes the time to understand and consider any big decisions rather than rushing in to change everything without having really thought things through.

I think you're right. He did appoint Ed Miliband as Foreign Secretary even though he knew that Donald Trump wouldn't be happy.

InveterateWineDrinker · 24/07/2026 14:52

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This is just not true and I strongly, strongly, suggest you withdraw the statement.

The UK has never bombed Argentina. The RAF attacked Argentinian forces in Port Stanley while they were occupying the Falklands in 1982, but did it from the RAF base on Ascension (British territory, although the base is shared with the US), and of course the Royal Navy attacked Argentinian forces from carriers.

The US was supportive to the UK, but feared open support drawing in the Soviet Union on the Argentinian side. The US provided Sidewinder missiles to the RN (specifically the 9-Lima variant which could be fired from in front of the enemy aircraft instead of having to be fired from behind - this made a huge difference) and backfilled a lot of the RAF's operations in Europe, which allowed RAF assets to be deployed to the South Atlantic. They also provided fuel and other logistical support at Ascension.

HoppityBun · 24/07/2026 14:56

I think I’m slow on the uptake, but I’m starting to get a bit suspicious about these unending posts criticising Burnham. He’s barely got his foot through the door and Parliament isn’t back until 1 September.

JenniferBooth · 24/07/2026 14:56

Not listening to many women when they dont want the men who raped and abused them released
But immediately calling for a review when its looking likely that the killers of a male police officer may be released.

notimagain · 24/07/2026 15:00

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What????

Agree with @InveterateWineDrinker

There were no air raids on the Argentinian mainland during the Falklands conflict (or before...or after...).

Are you getting confused with the Black Buck raids and the role of Ascension?

mumumental · 24/07/2026 15:12

Gutted. And surprised. He ought to be ashamed.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/07/2026 15:17

Ireland has been sadly doing it for years. I didn’t realise that the UK didn’t allow it until now, when Donald had his hissy fit at Spain for refusing to allow them refuel, I just assumed the UK was a refuelling base too.
It is disgusting.
It isn’t much different from arming Ukraine to kill Russian soldiers.

SemperIdem · 24/07/2026 15:23

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In which parallel universe was mainland Argentina bombed by British forces?

LuckyHazelFox · 24/07/2026 15:27

This is a delicate matter, that's not black and white. No criticism from me for Burnham on this one.

Tryagain26 · 24/07/2026 15:28

Good heavens what did you expect?
He has been PM for less than a week.
The Dead Ringers sketch last week was spot on!
https://youtube.com/shorts/URTMNMmwA?si=Np6bJvs8ufOCDF4j

Lugol · 24/07/2026 15:29

Pinkflamingo10 · 24/07/2026 14:07

But he’s so handsome ❤️

He has middle-aged man face. He's definitely not handsome

OneStarAwake · 24/07/2026 15:30

JenniferBooth · 24/07/2026 14:56

Not listening to many women when they dont want the men who raped and abused them released
But immediately calling for a review when its looking likely that the killers of a male police officer may be released.

Not listening to many women when they dont want the men who raped and abused them released

He has only been PM since Monday. I don't think many women will have beenin touch with him about the early release scheme, given it was nothing to do with him before then? And if they had, the fact that he paused the scheme almost immediately after becoming PM would indicate he had listened to them.

DontrockthecaravanGeoffrey · 24/07/2026 15:32

Your YABU and YANBU descriptions are very silly.

SadiraOfTyr · 24/07/2026 15:35

Oh come on, it’s not as if he has any choice in the matter. He can either ‘refuse permission’, risking retaliation from Trump, and be ignored anyway. Or he can make the pretence that the decision actually rests with the UK government and save a bit of face.

PensionPTake · 24/07/2026 15:40

christ he's been in for 5 minutes he can't change everything at once