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To be amazed this family were allowed on the flight (Ryanair)

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sickflight87 · Today 16:47

We were flying with Ryanair last week to go on holiday.

Before boarding the plane, we heard them calling cleaners to our boarding gate. As we got closer, there was a young boy who had been sick all over the floor. He clearly had a fever and wasn't well at all.

We boarded the plane, and you guessed it, the family were sat really near us. Before the plane even took off, he was sick 2 more times.

During the flight, he was sick every hour. The Mum said 'it is such a shame he has a bug at the start of our holiday'.

I am just amazed that he was allowed to fly when visibly unwell with a sickness bug.

I am absolutely amazed we didn't catch it but I bet other people did. I thought it was SO unfair that he was allowed to fly, potentially infecting so many people on that plane and ruining holidays people have looked forward to all year. I know kids aren't allowed to fly with chickenpox, so why can they with a sickness bug?

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Celticwonderer · Today 18:07

Sorry but it’s 💯 not fair on the other passengers. The kid clearly had a fever FFS.

People vomiting + obvious fever BEFORE they board should categorically not be allowed to fly. That’s before we even get onto the decision of the parents to drag the poor child on board regardless. Can’t get my head around it sorry

shoesandshipsandsealingwax · Today 18:08

Lifelover16 · Today 18:06

But how would anyone know if it was contagious or not?

They wouldn't, that's kind of my point. Chicken pox (as per OP's example) is always contagious so always a reason to deny boarding. But because vomiting can be caused by all kinds of things, airlines could be on rough ground if they denied someone boarding because they were travel sick or anxious or had a migraine.

Westcoe · Today 18:08

Being very drunk isn’t contagious but you wouldn’t be allowed on a flight because dangerous and very unpleasant for others

even if someone spewing is not contagious, it is still dangerous (could worsen on flight or mean toilets out of action) and very unpleasant for others

AnyonehatefliesasmuchasIdo · Today 18:08

EvelynBeatrice · Today 17:49

You get a medical certificate clarifying why you’re vomiting and that you’re not infectious. It’s pretty normal.

Whilst at the airport??

Trallers · Today 18:09

Beeeem · Today 17:54

My husband was on a flight years ago and there was a family with a child who didn’t look well. He looked feverish and was crying a lot. The dad was carrying him and walking him up and down the aisle to calm him down. The child proceeded to projectile vomit all over a row of people. That was lovely for them. I don’t even know how you are meant to clean up in that situation. My husband said one woman ended up sitting in just her bra but with a blanket round her for the rest of the journey. It looked like she had washed her hair in the toilet sink as well.

Oh my gosh that is truly horrendous, those poor people Shock

placemats · Today 18:12

sickflight87 · Today 17:09

I would say that the most likely reason would be a sickness bug for a young child with a fever!

How did you know they had a fever. Did you take their temperature?

RedRock41 · Today 18:12

That’s awful OP. Lodge a formal complaint. Or better still put something on their X or facebook accounts. You aren’t allowed on a cruise ship with those symptoms. There will be people perhaps on that flight with underlying medical conditions or who are immunosuppressed, possibly pregnant women too or even some travelling to see loved ones. Allowing the family to fly was a serious H&S risk. I had to travel to see my Dad when he was dying, if the young lad had likes of highly contagious norovirus that would have robbed me of precious time. How horrible for everyone.

Theresalittlebitofwitchinyou · Today 18:16

I’m immunocompromised so hate people who travel with something contagious (or visit!) but equally I have a child with allergies that took years to get fully under control due to lots of hidden triggers so unexpected vomiting was an occupational hazard for us for a few years until we got it under control, so I’m sure we used to be judged unfairly.

Am99 · Today 18:17

I agree it’s definitely gross for all involved and really unpleasant to have to sit next to but I agree that while it might’ve been a contagious stomach bug, I don’t think it warrants the family not travelling and having to de-board the plane.

sickness bugs spread at pre-school, school, after school clubs it’s not just limited to being on a flight. You can catch sickness anywhere even when said person is not showing symptoms ie you could be see next to a seemingly healthy person but they could have a tropical disease for all you know.

They also might’ve saved up for years for that family trip and cancelling for a sickness bug probably isn’t covered by insurance I’d imagine - if it was even a sickness bug!

Babycatsmummy · Today 18:18

Our toddler got ill on the plane 2 weeks ago, he was absolutely fine beforehand and showed no signs of being ill. Then 45 minutes into the flight he was sobbing his heart out and had the most horrific diarrhoea. I felt absolutely terrible for him and also for anyone else on the plane as I definitely would not have taken him if he’d have been unwell and we knew about it. The cabin crew were amazing and so were the passengers in front of us. I ran out of clothes for him and a very kind man gave us his hoodie to at latest keep DC warm.
we ended up seeking medical care and we were almost sent to hospital as he had bronchitis but luckily he reacted quickly to treatment.

But no, I wouldn’t dream of taking a poorly child on an airplane if I knew they were unwell

NiftyAmberHam · Today 18:20

we were saying on for another week after he was due to fly home so still had our accommodation booked.

Esmeraldathe3rd · Today 18:21

shoesandshipsandsealingwax · Today 17:07

But there are umpteen reasons why someone could vomit and it not be contagious - are you saying those people should never be allowed to fly?

If a person is actively vomitting they absolutely should not be allowed on a flight. It's disgusting for everybody involved. Can't imagine why anyone would think it ok.

ilovesooty · Today 18:22

shoesandshipsandsealingwax · Today 17:14

I wonder if you'd feel that way if it was you or your kids being sick and your holiday was cancelled over nothing.

Couldn't care less. If someone's vomiting they shouldn't be on a flight at all.

Ponderingwindow · Today 18:23

Westcoe · Today 18:00

And what about the very very closely confined OTHER PASSENGERS?

No one seems to give a damn about other passengers when it comes to allergy safety for those of us gripping our epipens and hoping for this best. Even though it would be easy to make people safer on planes.

This is just unpleasant.

What I have realized is that people only care about themselves.

Buggeroffboss · Today 18:29

You don't know he was contagious. DS has severe acid reflex resulting in vomiting, which is exacerbated significantly by anxiety and being autistic he is anxious a lot. He often throws up before traveling. He's not a risk to anyone and there's no cure/ mitigation for it. I'd be incredibly pissed off if we were not allowed to fly.

EvelynBeatrice · Today 18:34

AnyonehatefliesasmuchasIdo · Today 18:08

Whilst at the airport??

You prepare in advance obviously! If you’re so ill you need to get home you’re usually in a situation where a ‘fit to fly’ certificate is appropriate.

sickflight87 · Today 18:34

placemats · Today 18:12

How did you know they had a fever. Did you take their temperature?

Peak mumsnet 🤣 Yes, I whipped my thermometer out and checked it. It was 39.9 🙄

He had very flushed cheeks and the parents were fanning him and taking his top off. He clearly had a fever!!

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EvelynBeatrice · Today 18:35

Buggeroffboss · Today 18:29

You don't know he was contagious. DS has severe acid reflex resulting in vomiting, which is exacerbated significantly by anxiety and being autistic he is anxious a lot. He often throws up before traveling. He's not a risk to anyone and there's no cure/ mitigation for it. I'd be incredibly pissed off if we were not allowed to fly.

I’d be inclined to get a doctors letter confirming what happens when he’s anxious and just take it with you. That’s what we did in similar circumstances.

ranoutofquinoaandprosecco · Today 18:37

My DD started vomiting on our back home from Thailand been travelling ages and we’re at Dubai when she started and even though I was 99% sure it was because she was shattered, Emirates and us made the decision not to fly back to the UK before she had been checked and had a fit to fly certificate. She was fine within a few hours, had a nap something to eat and drink and we were on the next flight. At the time it was awful as you just want to get home, but imagine if it was something really serious like a dodgy appendix as well as not spreading all those germs.

EvelynBeatrice · Today 18:39

Ponderingwindow · Today 18:23

No one seems to give a damn about other passengers when it comes to allergy safety for those of us gripping our epipens and hoping for this best. Even though it would be easy to make people safer on planes.

This is just unpleasant.

What I have realized is that people only care about themselves.

Yes. Man who ate peanuts when asked not to next to my young nephew was well served when nephew vomited all over him, vomited so much he blocked the plane loo and faced serious prospect of diversion to land earlier.

Luckily nephew was ok - but he took to warning people in the future what was likely to happen if they didn’t listen to flight crew.

TheDenimPoet · Today 18:43

Weeellokthen · Today 17:11

If they are actively vomiting. Damn right.

What about if it's due to anxiety because they're scared of flying? Should they just never go anywhere?

FourSevenFour · Today 18:46

ilovesooty · Today 18:22

Couldn't care less. If someone's vomiting they shouldn't be on a flight at all.

Yeah, pregnant women should stay at home for months, just in case they would have to throw up on the travelling day.


No one likes being around sick people, but the alternative would be compulsory temperature checks at the airport - and still many people would just dose up and go anyway.

QueenietheGreat · Today 18:48

@sickflight87
Some entitled thickos have no social awarenes seeped in bluffness and assume that no-one will never have the nerve to tell them NO!

EvelynBeatrice · Today 18:49

TheDenimPoet · Today 18:43

What about if it's due to anxiety because they're scared of flying? Should they just never go anywhere?

Again unless you have a doctors letter or credible evidence that you aren’t diseased/ drunk, how can the airline tell and why should they risk the safety and wellbeing of everyone else? It’s the greatest good of the greatest number.

If you know anxiety makes you sick then prepare in advance by taking a doctors letter, a basin/ receptacle and extra clothes!!

LilyBunch25 · Today 18:50

Bad....my friend and her daughters contracted norovirus on a flight; there was a passenger whose child was visibly unwell and vomiting, but as she said what can you do? Could never prove thats where it came from.