AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

Which started in 2022, I see.

Shall we resume adult conversation.

That is from 2022.

Not napalm in the morning ?

That article is over four years old.

https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/prime-minister
This may help some posters who don't understand the role of Prime Minister.

GEs are expensive and disruptive. The hounding of Keir Starmer by BBC News talking about his resignation as a fair accomplis felt anti-democratic. I'm not pro-Starmer. Burnham won't call a GE because what a fucking waste of his time that would be, how bloody disruptive to rejig his cabinet with the possibility of being out on his arse very soon.

Can we please return to grown up politics where people do the time they were trusted with in the first place.

There's obvs also the danger of Reform gaining power from the imbeciles and racists who vote for them.

My bad. So he's been relevant for that long? Let's see what tributes he can find outside of Manchester.

Yes, good points.

Because Kier didn't have his party's support basically they wanted him out from practically day one. They plotted and plotted and here we are.

It's Keir.

Your last line is why Labour MPs panicked and ousted Starmer. Not the press.

They’ve rolled the dice, I’m sure they’ll be happy if it works out with Burnham but they’ll have to accept their own role if it doesn’t.

Lots of comedy TikTok’s splicing footage of AB with David Brent. Surprisingly very similar types.

this country doesnt want a very leftie government. Hopefully the governments will stop him from wrecking things too quickly. Mind you, the more horrible his ideas are, the better for Kemi and Nige.

it’s a massive punch to the voters to be given a PM nobody voted for.

It’s the Labour Party’s mandate. Not Andy Burnham’s. Not Keir Starmer’s. Not anyone else’s. That is how British parliamentary democracy works.

Why are you familiar with its usage?

If he does he's more of an idiot than I thought he was

We don't vote for the Prime Minister.
How many times?
It's the same thing, over and over. It's really worrying how many people don't understand how the political system works.
It's been explained and it's getting tiresome now.

Thank you, I've really no idea how many times it has to be explained! Fortunately I have to go out now because I'm going to get too irritated!
Good luck if you're staying on this thread! 🤞

Correct.

It’s actually quite concerning that so many people who are sufficiently interested in politics to comment about it on a forum evidently don’t understand the basics of how our political system works. This stuff needs to be taught better in schools.

Or - just before I go - people could look it up!
Just a thought!

Agree.
And what's the schtick about only wearing a suit if the occasion really calls for it? He's a pound shop Zelenskyy.
Tit.
Sorry He really annoys me with his carpetbagging and his ego.

He'd have to be crazy to call one now. I'd be completely gobsmacked if he did that.

He doesn't need a GE to shuffle his cabinet he can do that at anytime really. Reform are bluster at this time, yes they are in front on the polls but in practice don't have the party numbers to run in a GE.

Just watched our new PMs first speech. Sounds very much like the Torys leveling up which I do agree with.

A fair speech just now. Let's see what he does.

The Labour manifesto ( which those Labour MPs were elected on) was not left. It was centrist. It did not include lifting the 2 child benefit cap. Parliamentary democracy only works if MPs support their own party manifesto. At the first opportunity some of them voted against their own budget and then moaned that they were expelled. If you want to blame people for not understanding Parliamentary democracy, blame ( again) Labour MPs. They are the root of the problem. They thought they could Trojan horse into government on a Centrist platform then get rid of Starmer and replace him with a Lefty, and they have done exactly that. History tells us they will soon fall into their own purity spiral, but will then blame everyone else once they realise Burnham is whatever he needs to be to win an election..