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To feel I've been lied to about China

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Sulettamercury · 16/07/2026 22:47

I'm well aware the country is far from perfect but no where is and I've just come back for the summer after spending 2 years there working as a teacher I'm going back in a few weeks.

What I can't get over is the fact all my friends seem to be indoctrinated into thinking China is this 1984 style hell hole where you can't criticise the government or do anything without being in constant fear.

I have to say living there really opened my eyes and I was shocked when in my first months of teaching one of the Chinese workers (now a good friend) started openly moaning about government policy and I'll admit I was nervous at the time but soon realised nothing would happen and that despite what I was told no one came after her and she didn't disappear and that every one was moaning about government policy if it didn't suit them with no consequences.

The infrastructure is also wonderful and far from the cheap rubbish you're told it is and housing isn't all on the verge of collapse or at least no worse than some of the rubbish I've seen here in the UK

Again it's definitely not perfect but AIBU to say I I feel like we're lied to in the west about how bad China really is and that some of the things we accuse them of we either do ourselves or we blow out of proportion?

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Voiceoftruthandreason · 17/07/2026 15:56

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Walikota · 17/07/2026 16:14

38thparallel · 17/07/2026 14:57

Speakeasier · Today 12:32
It’s hilarious and depressing at the same time. Saying China and the UK are similar in terms of freedoms is just laughable. But I wonder how many are actually posting in good faith

I’ve seen China get an easy ride on mn sometimes. One poster made much of the incredible improvements in education under Chairman Mao.
I’m sure that was great consolation to the millions who he murdered.

A lot of online wumao'ers tend to mention that China 'never tried invade anyone'...so what were all those Maoist guerillas in the 1950s and 1960s in Malaysia,Indonesia,Nepal and India who fought and died for a Communist Asia?

LilacPuffin · 17/07/2026 16:35

Appleblum · 17/07/2026 15:48

I like china. It is not perfect and has its own myriad of issues but personally, I have found it a safe and interesting place to live in.

Interesting, unquestionably. But safe? I guess it's safe if you're not a Uyghur, a Christian, a Tibetan, LGBT, anyone who expresses dissenting views. . .

BunfightBetty · 17/07/2026 17:15

EmmaOfNormandy · 17/07/2026 11:37

are always trying to manage their PR. They want to have their cake and eat it - have a brutal and repressive regime for their own citizens, deploy aggressive expansionist policies overseas, denying other nations their autonomy,

I thought this thread was about China. Turned out it's about the US.

Funny old world innit ?

Are you struggling with nuance?

Nice attempt at deflection, but it doesn't wash. Nobody's saying other regimes are perfect - and the US certainly isn't. But attempts to position them as two peas in a pod is absolutely laughable. These things are relative, much as the Chinese authorities would like us all to believe otherwise.

Appleblum · 18/07/2026 00:59

LilacPuffin · 17/07/2026 16:35

Interesting, unquestionably. But safe? I guess it's safe if you're not a Uyghur, a Christian, a Tibetan, LGBT, anyone who expresses dissenting views. . .

Yes. I am an average straight female and I've found china to be safer than many other countries for females and children.

MinLynn · 18/07/2026 04:06

Appleblum · 18/07/2026 00:59

Yes. I am an average straight female and I've found china to be safer than many other countries for females and children.

I misread.

OutAndAbouting · 18/07/2026 05:24

MinLynn · 17/07/2026 14:21

I don’t understand you’re meaning. You think their poor at SPAG?

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Are you trying to be funny?

SixtySomething · 18/07/2026 09:29

OutAndAbouting · 18/07/2026 05:24

Are you trying to be funny?

O, I don’t think so! 🤣😆🤣

SixtySomething · 18/07/2026 09:31

I notice OP disappeared some time ago.

Walikota · 18/07/2026 09:45

SixtySomething · 18/07/2026 09:31

I notice OP disappeared some time ago.

I think a Chinese government sponsered cyber unit was testing their new "soft power language software" out on live sites..wumao a pop.It adds up if you're a hard up spy with limited English wanting a Freddo chocolate bar at the end of a hard shift typing pish.

BrandiedAromatics · 18/07/2026 09:55

SixtySomething · 18/07/2026 09:31

I notice OP disappeared some time ago.

Yes, the English teacher who has never used a comma?

LilacPuffin · 18/07/2026 15:06

Appleblum · 18/07/2026 00:59

Yes. I am an average straight female and I've found china to be safer than many other countries for females and children.

I guess the safety of other populations doesn't concern you at all. I'm all right, Jack.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 08:19

Chinas ambassador is now denying they own state media outlets that have been portraying Filipinos as monkeys

https://nitter.net/ABSCBNNews/status/2079743900886155526#m

https://www.abs-cbn.com/news/nation/2026/7/22/chinese-envoy-distances-beijing-from-china-daily-s-monkey-video-on-filipinos-0008

Walikota · 23/07/2026 14:46

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 08:19

The Chinese public will joke about racial things and about themselves in a good humoured way...but the state thinking is of the lines of the Han race being an extant race that is competition with the 'other'.A lot of scientific eugenics going on the state media-they clearly understand the implications of what they term 'laobaiming'-'old hundred names'.That they lack variation in genes and it will cause further issues on a large scale,so they promote selective breeding (for cash prizes in some areas) in their ethnic areas and abroad for this reason...westerners would call it 'transactional slavery'...and how they promote it.. is well...they are doing the 'lesser races' a favour.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 16:58

Selective breeding!?

I know there's a trade in foreign brides as a long term effect of son preference and the one child policy.

There's also one in the western states of India because son preference.

Chinas favourite trade ally Pakistan has been a source for women alongside Vietnam and Thailand
https://www.newarab.com/news/hundreds-pakistani-girls-sold-brides-china

China Pakistan bride trafficking -- AFP

Hundreds of Pakistani girls ’sold as brides to China’

An AP investigation earlier this year revealed how Pakistan’s Christian minority has become a new target of brokers who pay impoverished parents to marry off their daughters to Chinese husbands.

https://www.newarab.com/news/hundreds-pakistani-girls-sold-brides-china

Walikota · 24/07/2026 05:39

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 16:58

Selective breeding!?

I know there's a trade in foreign brides as a long term effect of son preference and the one child policy.

There's also one in the western states of India because son preference.

Chinas favourite trade ally Pakistan has been a source for women alongside Vietnam and Thailand
https://www.newarab.com/news/hundreds-pakistani-girls-sold-brides-china

Inner Mongolia is a fairly recent example where Chinese men are paid and supported if they can marry a ethnic Mongolian female.Its like a hideous gameshow level over there-"Win a an electric car'".
They are expanding this to pretty much anywhere they can.Transportation and sale of mainly poor females to a strange country where they can t speak the language on a mass scale under the guise of economic expansion.
Bear in mind, China has a very strong national fear about what we term 'inbreeding'-

"Around 2,000 Han Chinese surnames are currently in use, but 19 of these surnames are used by about half of the Han Chinese people. About 87% of the population share 100 surnames."

Some of that is adoptive clan fostering,but you see why westerners think Chinese people look similar?

I hope the original poster has given up their ambition/past time to spy and post for the C.C.P.

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Lalgarh · 24/07/2026 08:33

"more chins than a Beijing phone book" has some truth in it then

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