To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

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Not an England-team bashing thread, but why, oh WHY do they - the men - keep falling at the final hurdle (well, virtually the final hurdle,) every time at the football (soccer) World Cup - and the Euro Cup too...?

They do so well, and get so far, and then BANG they're out. Nearly always in the top 8, or top 4, (and the top 2, in the World Cup once, and a couple of times in the Euros I think,) but never the winner. (Not since 1966 anyway!)

Is it nerves? Is it that they're so anxious to win that they keep making silly mistakes? Are they just not quite good enough? WHAT IS IT? Why do they keep getting so close, but just never manage to get the win?!

As I said, I am not bashing them, and they did well, and I am proud of them, but I just get so frustrated that they can't quite ever get the win!

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He meant it in terms of not getting over the final hurdle rather than not getting through to the semis/finals.

In this instance he did think that Tuchel got his tactics wrong.

Didn't say he was a messiah...said he was a footballing genius, so as far as kicking a ball goes he does it very well. Which to some is worth shouting about others not so much. No its not fair he gets paid millions for it while nurses teachers etc get bog all.

Theres also.people like nige farridge who get given millions to do and say what the person who paid him wants him to do and say ...so its up to you who you think is the 'worser' person.

the top four rated teams are
Argentina
Spain
France
England

we may come third but its likely that the ratings shall stay the same as before the tournament

England have played really well at times, other times not so well as with all the teams above

'Nige' makes his way into most threads. How on earth is he relevant in a football discussion about winning and losing streaks.

We get it, you LOVE The Argentinian football team, and you're not keen on the English one!🙄

But please stop pretending you knew that Argentina were going to score a goal at 85 minutes and then a second one a few minutes into stoppage time, and were just 'biding their time' with England. Never heard anything so daft! Even THEY didn't know they would score those goals, or at what point in the match!

I love this, thanks for sharing it.

As both men are currently topical i was just making a comparison between one man who earned alot of money having a certain physical skill that is rightly or wrongly admired my millions .....and another making alot less money, but still alot of money from grifting offf someone else, being a prolific liar, mercenary and having no obvious skill other than being a con man. 😃

Why stop at Nige let's get Trump in swiftly followed by Hitler 😜@YesIKnowThatThankyou thanks for that. He's such a young lad but has a good family around him.

A footballers pay is a function of the number of people who want to watch him and buy merchandise related to him and the revenue he can help generate for the teams he plays in.

Exactly. Man City aren't paying Erling Haaland half a million a week out of the goodness of their hearts. It's a business transaction, and they've calculated that he's worth the money.

That's his value on the football market. If they didn't pay him accordingly, Real Madrid or Paris Saint Germain would happily do so.